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Re: [Healeys] Driving 100

To: Alan Seigrist <healey.nut@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Driving 100
From: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 22:08:16 -0400
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Bob--

I agree with Alan totally--the 100's handling is quite a lot lighter than
that of the six-cylinder cars.

Since you know that your front-end set up is probably far from precise why
not start with common specs and see what effect that has.  I don't have a
handbook available to me right now but I am sure that toe is specified and
if camber and caster is not they cannot be a deep secret and any of the
smart guys on this list or one of shops that set up new restorations should
be able to give you the info you need.

You didn't say what kind of tires you have mounted up, nor what inflation
you are using but both for esthetic as well as handling reasons I would
recommend a 70-aspect radial and see how 30 psi feels.  I recently mounted
up a set of 175-15R Michelin XAS's.  Admittedly they are expensive but they
feel great--far better than the previous XzX's, track straight and fill the
wheel apertures nicely, even though my BN1 has smaller front wheel cutouts
than the later BN2's.

Good luck, and keep us posted--Michael Oritt



On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 9:38 PM, Alan Seigrist <healey.nut@gmail.com> wrote:

> Bob -
>
> I drive my BN1 alot, and frankly I much prefer driving the car to the BJ8,
> it drives much more like a modern street racer, very nimble, tracks where
> you need it to go, light on the steering, everything.  As someone who
> started out as a BJ8 guy, the BN1 has grown on me.
>
> I think the problem you are dealing with is your front wheels aren't
> aligned properly, probably your toe is too wide or something along those
> lines.  The car should absolutely track straight and steer like a modern
> car.  You don't need fat tires on the 100, in fact the old 48 spokes with
> 165s, it drives very nice.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Alan
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 5:48 AM, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Listers,
>>
>> Finally had a chance to put some miles on our BN2/100M resto.  Car tracks
>> straight and turns well but feels somewhat 'squirrelly' or 'twitchy' to
>> me.  I'm used to driving a BJ8 with oversize (6") wheels and 185/70 tires
>> which feels like a land barge compared to the 100.  I would expect a 100 to
>> be a lot more nimble than a BJ8, but you have to really stay on top of the
>> car to stay out of the weeds.  We set up the suspension ourselves, with
>> nominal caster, camber and toe, but our tools were somewhat crude and we
>> may have screwed something up (particularly the caster).
>>
>> Anyone driven both cars a lot, can tell me if something might be wrong,
>> or do I just have to stay on top of this car at all times (I know, you're
>> supposed to stay on top of ALL cars, but this one feels like it has no
>> margin for sloppiness or inattentiveness at all)?
>>
>> TIA,
>> Bob
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Bob--=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">I agree with Alan totally--t=
he 100&#39;s handling is quite a lot lighter than that of the six-cylinder =
cars.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br><=
/div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Since you know th=
at your front-end set up is probably far from precise why not start with co=
mmon specs and see what effect that has.=C2=A0 I don&#39;t have a handbook =
available to me right now but I am sure that toe is specified and if camber=
 and caster is not they cannot be a deep secret and any of the smart guys o=
n this list or one of shops that set up new restorations should be able to =
give you the info you need.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"colo=
r:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Y=
ou didn&#39;t say what kind of tires you have mounted up, nor what inflatio=
n you are using but both for esthetic as well as handling reasons I would r=
ecommend a 70-aspect radial and see how 30 psi feels.=C2=A0 I recently moun=
ted up a set of 175-15R Michelin XAS&#39;s.=C2=A0 Admittedly they are expen=
sive but they feel great--far better than the previous XzX&#39;s, track str=
aight and fill the wheel apertures nicely, even though my BN1 has smaller f=
ront wheel cutouts than the later BN2&#39;s.</div><div class=3D"gmail_defau=
lt" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D=
"color:#3333ff">Good luck, and keep us posted--Michael Oritt =C2=A0</div><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"=
gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_=
extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 9:38 PM, Alan=
 Seigrist <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com"; tar=
get=3D"_blank">healey.nut@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Bob -<div><br></div><div>I drive my BN1 a=
lot, and frankly I much prefer driving the car to the BJ8, it drives much m=
ore like a modern street racer, very nimble, tracks where you need it to go=
, light on the steering, everything.=C2=A0 As someone who started out as a =
BJ8 guy, the BN1 has grown on me.</div><div><br></div><div>I think the prob=
lem you are dealing with is your front wheels aren&#39;t aligned properly, =
probably your toe is too wide or something along those lines.=C2=A0 The car=
 should absolutely track straight and steer like a modern car.=C2=A0 You do=
n&#39;t need fat tires on the 100, in fact the old 48 spokes with 165s, it =
drives very nice.</div><div><br></div><div>Best Regards,</div><div><br></di=
v><div>Alan</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote"><div><div class=3D"h5">On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 5:48 AM, Bob Spidell <=
span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; target=3D"_bla=
nk">bspidell@comcast.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;=
padding-left:1ex"><div><div class=3D"h5">Listers,<br>
<br>
Finally had a chance to put some miles on our BN2/100M resto.=C2=A0 Car tra=
cks straight and turns well but feels somewhat &#39;squirrelly&#39; or &#39=
;twitchy&#39; to me.=C2=A0 I&#39;m used to driving a BJ8 with oversize (6&q=
uot;) wheels and 185/70 tires which feels like a land barge compared to the=
 100.=C2=A0 I would expect a 100 to be a lot more nimble than a BJ8, but yo=
u have to really stay on top of the car to stay out of the weeds.=C2=A0 We =
set up the suspension ourselves, with nominal caster, camber and toe, but o=
ur tools were somewhat crude and we may have screwed something up (particul=
arly the caster).<br>
<br>
Anyone driven both cars a lot, can tell me if something might be wrong, or =
do I just have to stay on top of this car at all times (I know, you&#39;re =
supposed to stay on top of ALL cars, but this one feels like it has no marg=
in for sloppiness or inattentiveness at all)?<br>
<br>
TIA,<br>
Bob<br>
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