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Re: [Healeys] Driving 100

To: Derek Job <derek.c.job@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Driving 100
From: jerry wall <jwbn6hrdtp@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 03:41:52 -0500
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the original toe in specs were for bias ply tires. for radials the toe in
should be 0 - straight ahead.  this can be confirmed at your local tire
dealer's alignment machine.
cheers,
jerry

On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 2:11 AM, Derek Job <derek.c.job@gmail.com> wrote:

> Bob
>
> What do you mean by 'nominal' castor, camber and toe in? Toe in should be
> 1/8th of an inch. The other two are fixed at manufacture and i can't
> remember exactly what they are but I think they are mentioned in the shop
> manual. If they are not correct, toe in and castor will have a big effect
> on how the car feels.
>
> Derek
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 3:42 AM, <glemon@neb.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Bob, I think something is out of spec.  My 100, on 165/80 modern"ish"
>> radials was very stable, would not describe the handling as squirrelly at
>> all, a very relaxed and smooth riding car compared to most of the other mgs
>> and Triumphs and such I have owned.
>>
>> The one time I do remember it being squirrel was when the toe in was off
>> after I set it by eyeball to drive it home after I had done,
>> coincidentally, a steering box referb and tie and cross rod replacement in
>> my mother's nearby garage and wanted to get it home for more precise
>> adjustment.  The curves of the front fenders make the eyeball method even
>> more inaccurate than you would figure it to be, but anyway it was
>> squirrelly with the toe in off.
>>
>> Greg Lemon
>>
>>
>> ---- Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
>> > Listers,
>> >
>> > Finally had a chance to put some miles on our BN2/100M resto.  Car
>> > tracks straight and turns well but feels somewhat 'squirrelly' or
>> > 'twitchy' to me.  I'm used to driving a BJ8 with oversize (6") wheels
>> > and 185/70 tires which feels like a land barge compared to the 100.  I
>> > would expect a 100 to be a lot more nimble than a BJ8, but you have to
>> > really stay on top of the car to stay out of the weeds.  We set up the
>> > suspension ourselves, with nominal caster, camber and toe, but our tools
>> > were somewhat crude and we may have screwed something up (particularly
>> > the caster).
>> >
>> > Anyone driven both cars a lot, can tell me if something might be wrong,
>> > or do I just have to stay on top of this car at all times (I know,
>> > you're supposed to stay on top of ALL cars, but this one feels like it
>> > has no margin for sloppiness or inattentiveness at all)?
>> >
>> > TIA,
>> > Bob
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jerry wall  BN6
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<div dir=3D"ltr">the original toe in specs were for bias ply tires. for rad=
ials the toe in should be 0 - straight ahead. =C2=A0this can be confirmed a=
t your local tire dealer&#39;s alignment machine.<div>cheers,</div><div>jer=
ry</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On =
Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 2:11 AM, Derek Job <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:derek.c.job@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">derek.c.job@gmail.com</a>&gt;=
</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .=
8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Bob<div><=
br></div><div>What do you mean by &#39;nominal&#39; castor, camber and toe =
in? Toe in should be 1/8th of an inch. The other two are fixed at manufactu=
re and i can&#39;t remember exactly what they are but I think they are ment=
ioned in the shop manual. If they are not correct, toe in and castor will h=
ave a big effect on how the car feels.</div><div><br></div><div>Derek</div>=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><div c=
lass=3D"h5">On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 3:42 AM,  <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:glemon@neb.rr.com"; target=3D"_blank">glemon@neb.rr.com</a>&gt;</=
span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
in:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class=
=3D"h5">Bob, I think something is out of spec.=C2=A0 My 100, on 165/80 mode=
rn&quot;ish&quot; radials was very stable, would not describe the handling =
as squirrelly at all, a very relaxed and smooth riding car compared to most=
 of the other mgs and Triumphs and such I have owned.<br>
<br>
The one time I do remember it being squirrel was when the toe in was off af=
ter I set it by eyeball to drive it home after I had done, coincidentally, =
a steering box referb and tie and cross rod replacement in my mother&#39;s =
nearby garage and wanted to get it home for more precise adjustment.=C2=A0 =
The curves of the front fenders make the eyeball method even more inaccurat=
e than you would figure it to be, but anyway it was squirrelly with the toe=
 in off.<br>
<br>
Greg Lemon<br>
<div><div><br>
<br>
---- Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; target=3D"_bla=
nk">bspidell@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; Listers,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Finally had a chance to put some miles on our BN2/100M resto.=C2=A0 Ca=
r<br>
&gt; tracks straight and turns well but feels somewhat &#39;squirrelly&#39;=
 or<br>
&gt; &#39;twitchy&#39; to me.=C2=A0 I&#39;m used to driving a BJ8 with over=
size (6&quot;) wheels<br>
&gt; and 185/70 tires which feels like a land barge compared to the 100.=C2=
=A0 I<br>
&gt; would expect a 100 to be a lot more nimble than a BJ8, but you have to=
<br>
&gt; really stay on top of the car to stay out of the weeds.=C2=A0 We set u=
p the<br>
&gt; suspension ourselves, with nominal caster, camber and toe, but our too=
ls<br>
&gt; were somewhat crude and we may have screwed something up (particularly=
<br>
&gt; the caster).<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Anyone driven both cars a lot, can tell me if something might be wrong=
,<br>
&gt; or do I just have to stay on top of this car at all times (I know,<br>
&gt; you&#39;re supposed to stay on top of ALL cars, but this one feels lik=
e it<br>
&gt; has no margin for sloppiness or inattentiveness at all)?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; TIA,<br>
&gt; Bob<br>
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