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Re: [Healeys] Steering problem

To: John and Judy Carter <jc9821@msn.com>, "healeys@autox.team.net" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering problem
From: Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 00:15:36 +0000 (UTC)
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Ask David Nock at British Car Specialists.=C2=A0 He has an upper trunnion b=
ushing that has needle bearings instead of a bronze bushing.=C2=A0 That sho=
uld help with the heavy steering.Mike MacLean
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    On Saturday, August 6, 2016 3:48 PM, John and Judy Carter <jc9821@msn.c=
om> wrote:
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  <!--#yiv4116446551 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}-->What steps can I t=
ake in my BJ8 to make it steer easier. I have a new worm gear but have not =
installed it yet. I have filled the box with thick oil to prevent leaking.

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=C2=A0=C2=A0 1. Re: Steering idler bits (Chris Scholz)
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=C2=A0=C2=A0 3. Re: Steering idler bits (=3D?iso-8859-1?Q?Steve=3D20B.=3D20=
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Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 18:39:53 +0000
From: Chris Scholz <drscholz@visioncenterpc.com>
To: Al Malin <amalin@mac.com>
Cc: "Healeys@autox.team.net" <Healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering idler bits

I am using the John Deere grease and it doesn't leak anymore but there is a=
 trace amount of seepage.=C2=A0 I did not rebuild the box and seals.

Sent from my iPhone
Chris Scholz OD

> On Aug 4, 2016, at 9:42 PM, Al Malin <amalin@mac.com> wrote:
>=20
> I?ve heard some people have used John Deere Corn Head grease in this appl=
ication with success. Don?t know if that is true. Just repeating what I?ve =
heard.
>=20
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DUEwk_sYP6A8
>=20
> Al Malin
> Tricarb
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>> On Aug 4, 2016, at 3:03 PM, Simon Lachlan <simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk>=
 wrote:
>>=20
>> Many thanks to one and all.
>> a)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I had misread the parts diagram. I knew=
 something was a bit off, hence the query.
>> b)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Indeed, an apparently simple task is a =
potential labour of Hercules and I?m very glad that I asked!
>> c)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I shall fill the thing up with Pe=
nrite Steering Box lube and see how that goes.
>>=20
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Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 18:44:49 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
To: Reinhart Rosner <reinhart.rosner@aon.at>
Cc: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] electric fan for 3000???
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What's a rocker gear?=20

----- Original Message -----

From: "Reinhart Rosner" <reinhart.rosner@aon.at>=20
To: "randy dickson" <rdickson@midwestarchaeology.com>, "healeys" <healeys@a=
utox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 11:58:53 PM=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] electric fan for 3000???=20



Randy,=20

first of all I would recommend to search for the reason, why your BJ7 is ge=
tting a lot more hot recently.



I had a similar problem with my 100 some years ago. After almost 10 years d=
riving around without any overheating, even when being stuck in traffic jam=
 in Vienna with 30 deg C outside or driving up the Austrian mountains in su=
mmertime. The temperature gauge never showed anything more than 180 deg F (=
app 85 deg C). Maybe the louvred bonnet did help too.



Then all of a sudden my 100 started with overheating problems, went that ho=
t, that the engine began to sputter and later quit working and only could b=
e restarted after cooling down. This happened in slow traffic and in the mo=
untains.



I checked and fixed one thing after the other: carbs, ignition, radiator, h=
ead and exhaust gasket, water pump, thermostat, ... I even exchanged the co=
mplete exhaust system just to be sure that there is no problem coming from =
this point.



Throughout all this my mechanic always told me to install an electric fan a=
nd all problems would be gone. The only concession I made is a six blade fa=
n, which did help a little, but did not cure the problem.



During one last drive I heard some noise and we found out that it came from=
 a main bearing which destroyed the crankshaft. And while the engine is out=
 he could search for the real cause for the overheating and found out that =
it came from the rocker gear.



Conclusion:=20

Starting with no problems and then from one point having a lot of difficult=
ies made me oppose to install an electric fan and rather search for the rea=
l cause. My experience is that in the climate zone I live in my 100 should =
run without, except if you race your car.=20



Good luck=20



Reinhart=20










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Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2016 19:38:15 -0800
From: "=3D?iso-8859-1?Q?Steve=3D20B.=3D20Gerow?=3D" <steveg@abrazosdata.com=
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To: healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering idler bits

Loosen the bolts on the front of the steering box. The goop will drip out.

>>>
From: "rrengineer.mike" <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
To: Earl Kagna <kags@shaw.ca>, Healey List <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering idler bits

How would you go about purging the old oil/Grease to replace it with the Jo=
hn Deere stuff? ?
Mike MacLeanSan Bernardino (where it is 106 degrees plus on some summer day=
s here)

<<<
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Steve Gerow
Altadena, CA
Maker of most complete rear disc kit


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Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 18:39:53 +0000<br>
From: Chris Scholz &lt;drscholz@visioncenterpc.com&gt;<br>
To: Al Malin &lt;amalin@mac.com&gt;<br>
Cc: "Healeys@autox.team.net" &lt;Healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering idler bits<br>
<br>
<br>
I am using the John Deere grease and it doesn't leak anymore but there is a=
 trace amount of seepage.&nbsp; I did not rebuild the box and seals.
<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone<br>
Chris Scholz OD<br>
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&gt; On Aug 4, 2016, at 9:42 PM, Al Malin &lt;amalin@mac.com&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I?ve heard some people have used John Deere Corn Head grease in this a=
pplication with success. Don?t know if that is true. Just repeating what I?=
ve heard.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://www.youtube.com/=
watch?v=3DUEwk_sYP6A8">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DUEwk_sYP6A8</a><br=
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&gt; <br>
&gt; Al Malin<br>
&gt; Tricarb<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; On Aug 4, 2016, at 3:03 PM, Simon Lachlan &lt;simon.lachlan@homeca=
ll.co.uk&gt; wrote:<br>
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&gt;&gt; Many thanks to one and all.<br>
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I knew something was a bit off, hence the query.<br>
&gt;&gt; b)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Indeed, an apparently simple task=
 is a potential labour of Hercules and I?m very glad that I asked!<br>
&gt;&gt; c)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I shall fill the thing up w=
ith Penrite Steering Box lube and see how that goes.<br>
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Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 18:44:49 +0000 (UTC)<br>
From: Bob Spidell &lt;bspidell@comcast.net&gt;<br>
To: Reinhart Rosner &lt;reinhart.rosner@aon.at&gt;<br>
Cc: healeys &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] electric fan for 3000???<br>
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What's a rocker gear? <br>
<br>
----- Original Message -----<br>
<br>
From: "Reinhart Rosner" &lt;reinhart.rosner@aon.at&gt; <br>
To: "randy dickson" &lt;rdickson@midwestarchaeology.com&gt;, "healeys" &lt;=
healeys@autox.team.net&gt;
<br>
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 11:58:53 PM <br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] electric fan for 3000??? <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Randy, <br>
<br>
first of all I would recommend to search for the reason, why your BJ7 is ge=
tting a lot more hot recently.
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I had a similar problem with my 100 some years ago. After almost 10 years d=
riving around without any overheating, even when being stuck in traffic jam=
 in Vienna with 30 deg C outside or driving up the Austrian mountains in su=
mmertime. The temperature gauge
 never showed anything more than 180 deg F (app 85 deg C). Maybe the louvre=
d bonnet did help too.
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Then all of a sudden my 100 started with overheating problems, went that ho=
t, that the engine began to sputter and later quit working and only could b=
e restarted after cooling down. This happened in slow traffic and in the mo=
untains.
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I checked and fixed one thing after the other: carbs, ignition, radiator, h=
ead and exhaust gasket, water pump, thermostat, ... I even exchanged the co=
mplete exhaust system just to be sure that there is no problem coming from =
this point.
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Throughout all this my mechanic always told me to install an electric fan a=
nd all problems would be gone. The only concession I made is a six blade fa=
n, which did help a little, but did not cure the problem.
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
During one last drive I heard some noise and we found out that it came from=
 a main bearing which destroyed the crankshaft. And while the engine is out=
 he could search for the real cause for the overheating and found out that =
it came from the rocker gear.
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Conclusion: <br>
<br>
Starting with no problems and then from one point having a lot of difficult=
ies made me oppose to install an electric fan and rather search for the rea=
l cause. My experience is that in the climate zone I live in my 100 should =
run without, except if you race
 your car. <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Good luck <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Reinhart <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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