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Re: [Healeys] Steering problem

To: John Carter <jc9821@msn.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering problem
From: i erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 21:31:16 -0700
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Have you greased all of your fittings?

Mr. Ira Erbs
Portland,OR
1959 Austin Healey 100-6
please forgive odd words and auto corrects as   my phone cannot understand
my misspellings

On Aug 6, 2016 3:52 PM, "John and Judy Carter" <jc9821@msn.com> wrote:

> What steps can I take in my BJ8 to make it steer easier. I have a new worm
> gear but have not installed it yet. I have filled the box with thick oil to
> prevent leaking.
>
>
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>    1. Re: Steering idler bits (Chris Scholz)
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>    3. Re: Steering idler bits (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Steve=20B.=20Gerow?=)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 18:39:53 +0000
> From: Chris Scholz <drscholz@visioncenterpc.com>
> To: Al Malin <amalin@mac.com>
> Cc: "Healeys@autox.team.net" <Healeys@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering idler bits
> Message-ID: <17BDEB0F-982B-49A2-876D-362466AC8347@visioncenterpc.com>
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> I am using the John Deere grease and it doesn't leak anymore but there is
> a trace amount of seepage.  I did not rebuild the box and seals.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> Chris Scholz OD
>
> > On Aug 4, 2016, at 9:42 PM, Al Malin <amalin@mac.com> wrote:
> >
> > I?ve heard some people have used John Deere Corn Head grease in this
> application with success. Don?t know if that is true. Just repeating what
> I?ve heard.
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEwk_sYP6A8
> >
> > Al Malin
> > Tricarb
> >
> >> On Aug 4, 2016, at 3:03 PM, Simon Lachlan <simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Many thanks to one and all.
> >> a)      I had misread the parts diagram. I knew something was a bit
> off, hence the query.
> >> b)      Indeed, an apparently simple task is a potential labour of
> Hercules and I?m very glad that I asked!
> >> c)       I shall fill the thing up with Penrite Steering Box lube and
> see how that goes.
> >>
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> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 18:44:49 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
> To: Reinhart Rosner <reinhart.rosner@aon.at>
> Cc: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] electric fan for 3000???
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> What's a rocker gear?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: "Reinhart Rosner" <reinhart.rosner@aon.at>
> To: "randy dickson" <rdickson@midwestarchaeology.com>, "healeys" <
> healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 11:58:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] electric fan for 3000???
>
>
>
> Randy,
>
> first of all I would recommend to search for the reason, why your BJ7 is
> getting a lot more hot recently.
>
>
>
> I had a similar problem with my 100 some years ago. After almost 10 years
> driving around without any overheating, even when being stuck in traffic
> jam in Vienna with 30 deg C outside or driving up the Austrian mountains in
> summertime. The temperature gauge never showed anything more than 180 deg F
> (app 85 deg C). Maybe the louvred bonnet did help too.
>
>
>
> Then all of a sudden my 100 started with overheating problems, went that
> hot, that the engine began to sputter and later quit working and only could
> be restarted after cooling down. This happened in slow traffic and in the
> mountains.
>
>
>
> I checked and fixed one thing after the other: carbs, ignition, radiator,
> head and exhaust gasket, water pump, thermostat, ... I even exchanged the
> complete exhaust system just to be sure that there is no problem coming
> from this point.
>
>
>
> Throughout all this my mechanic always told me to install an electric fan
> and all problems would be gone. The only concession I made is a six blade
> fan, which did help a little, but did not cure the problem.
>
>
>
> During one last drive I heard some noise and we found out that it came
> from a main bearing which destroyed the crankshaft. And while the engine is
> out he could search for the real cause for the overheating and found out
> that it came from the rocker gear.
>
>
>
> Conclusion:
>
> Starting with no problems and then from one point having a lot of
> difficulties made me oppose to install an electric fan and rather search
> for the real cause. My experience is that in the climate zone I live in my
> 100 should run without, except if you race your car.
>
>
>
> Good luck
>
>
>
> Reinhart
>
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> Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2016 19:38:15 -0800
> From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Steve=20B.=20Gerow?=" <steveg@abrazosdata.com>
> To: healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering idler bits
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> Loosen the bolts on the front of the steering box. The goop will drip out.
>
> >>>
> From: "rrengineer.mike" <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
> To: Earl Kagna <kags@shaw.ca>, Healey List <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering idler bits
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> How would you go about purging the old oil/Grease to replace it with the
> John Deere stuff? ?
> Mike MacLeanSan Bernardino (where it is 106 degrees plus on some summer
> days here)
>
> <<<
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> Steve Gerow
> Altadena, CA
> Maker of most complete rear disc kit
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<p dir=3D"ltr">Have you greased all of your fittings?</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Mr. Ira Erbs<br>
Portland,OR<br>
1959 Austin Healey 100-6<br>
please forgive odd words and auto corrects as=C2=A0=C2=A0 my phone cannot u=
nderstand my misspellings </p>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Aug 6, 2016 3:=
52 PM, &quot;John and Judy Carter&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jc9821@msn.co=
m">jc9821@msn.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=
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<p>What steps can I take in my BJ8 to make it steer easier. I have a new wo=
rm gear but have not installed it yet. I have filled the box with thick oil=
 to prevent leaking.</p>
<br>
<br>
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Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 18:39:53 +0000<br>
From: Chris Scholz &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:drscholz@visioncenterpc.com"; targe=
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To: Al Malin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:amalin@mac.com"; target=3D"_blank">amalin=
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering idler bits<br>
oncenterpc.com" target=3D"_blank">17BDEB0F-982B-49A2-876D-<wbr>362466AC8347=
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I am using the John Deere grease and it doesn&#39;t leak anymore but there =
is a trace amount of seepage.=C2=A0 I did not rebuild the box and seals.
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Sent from my iPhone<br>
Chris Scholz OD<br>
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&gt; On Aug 4, 2016, at 9:42 PM, Al Malin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:amalin@mac.=
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&gt; <br>
&gt; I?ve heard some people have used John Deere Corn Head grease in this a=
pplication with success. Don?t know if that is true. Just repeating what I?=
ve heard.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <a href=3D"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DUEwk_sYP6A8"; target=3D"_b=
lank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?<wbr>v=3DUEwk_sYP6A8</a><br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Al Malin<br>
&gt; Tricarb<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; On Aug 4, 2016, at 3:03 PM, Simon Lachlan &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:si=
mon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk<=
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&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; Many thanks to one and all.<br>
&gt;&gt; a)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I had misread the parts diagram. =
I knew something was a bit off, hence the query.<br>
&gt;&gt; b)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Indeed, an apparently simple task=
 is a potential labour of Hercules and I?m very glad that I asked!<br>
&gt;&gt; c)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I shall fill the thing up w=
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Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 18:44:49 +0000 (UTC)<br>
From: Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; target=3D"_bl=
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To: Reinhart Rosner &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:reinhart.rosner@aon.at"; target=3D=
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] electric fan for 3000???<br>
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What&#39;s a rocker gear? <br>
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Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 11:58:53 PM <br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] electric fan for 3000??? <br>
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<br>
<br>
Randy, <br>
<br>
first of all I would recommend to search for the reason, why your BJ7 is ge=
tting a lot more hot recently.
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I had a similar problem with my 100 some years ago. After almost 10 years d=
riving around without any overheating, even when being stuck in traffic jam=
 in Vienna with 30 deg C outside or driving up the Austrian mountains in su=
mmertime. The temperature gauge
 never showed anything more than 180 deg F (app 85 deg C). Maybe the louvre=
d bonnet did help too.
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Then all of a sudden my 100 started with overheating problems, went that ho=
t, that the engine began to sputter and later quit working and only could b=
e restarted after cooling down. This happened in slow traffic and in the mo=
untains.
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I checked and fixed one thing after the other: carbs, ignition, radiator, h=
ead and exhaust gasket, water pump, thermostat, ... I even exchanged the co=
mplete exhaust system just to be sure that there is no problem coming from =
this point.
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Throughout all this my mechanic always told me to install an electric fan a=
nd all problems would be gone. The only concession I made is a six blade fa=
n, which did help a little, but did not cure the problem.
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
During one last drive I heard some noise and we found out that it came from=
 a main bearing which destroyed the crankshaft. And while the engine is out=
 he could search for the real cause for the overheating and found out that =
it came from the rocker gear.
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Conclusion: <br>
<br>
Starting with no problems and then from one point having a lot of difficult=
ies made me oppose to install an electric fan and rather search for the rea=
l cause. My experience is that in the climate zone I live in my 100 should =
run without, except if you race
 your car. <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Good luck <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Reinhart <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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How would you go about purging the old oil/Grease to replace it with the Jo=
hn Deere stuff? ?<br>
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s here)<br>
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Maker of most complete rear disc kit<br>
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