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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil
From: i erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 08:46:04 -0700
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I always drove gently for first 100 miles changing rpms and speed, changed
oil, then continued to drive and change oil again at 500 miles. Varying
speed and RPM. Not sure why we did this, something about seating the piston
 rings.
Clearly many ways to run in a new engine

Ira Erbs
Portland,OR
      _______                                  _______
     (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
         (_________________________)
          BT7 engine and disk brakes

Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words

On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 10:11 PM, Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
wrote:

>  A friend who recently past away in January that had been rebuilding
> Healey motors for over forty years told me he just gets them started and
> idles them for a while and then runs them gently for a 100 miles or so,
> changes the oil and then it's your choice how careful of a break in you
> want to do.  He said he never had a problem with them or the cams during
> break in.  Go figure.  I also have an article that says as soon as you get
> the motor started, run it at high rpm to seat the rings properly.  They are
> talking about a motorcycle, so I am not sure if applies in our case, but an
> interesting read.
> New Engine Break-in Procedure <http://www.ntnoa.org/enginebreakin.htm>
>
>
> [image: image] <http://www.ntnoa.org/enginebreakin.htm>
>
>
>
>
>
> New Engine Break-in Procedure <http://www.ntnoa.org/enginebreakin.htm>
> When a cylinder is new or overhauled the surface of it's walls are honed
> with abrasive stones to produce a rough surface that will help wear the
> piston rings ...
> View on www.ntnoa.org <http://www.ntnoa.org/enginebreakin.htm>
> Preview by Yahoo
>
> Mike MacLean
>
>
> On Sunday, August 28, 2016 9:16 PM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Ok I'm gonna ask the question:  Who is rat 540?
> A google search under his name seems not to reveal his identity though he
> is a prolific and generous contributor on several fora.
> The article is extensive and certainly impressive and rat does go to great
> lengths to convince us of his process and conclusions.  That said it flies
> somewhat in the face of much other evidence and directs us fom one additive
> to  another.
> Thoughts????
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
> On Aug 27, 2016 12:33 AM, "Michael Salter" <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Talking of oil here is an interesting article...VERY LONG... on lifter
> wear that is opening some eyes!!!
> http://speedtalk.com/forum/ viewtopic.php?f=1&t=32471
> <http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=32471>
>
> Certainly has me wondering...
> M
>
> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> We never talk about oil, so ....
>
> Anybody use this stuff?
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Kendall -1057267-Performance-20W-50-
> Titanium/dp/B004RNSO2M
> <https://www.amazon.com/Kendall-1057267-Performance-20W-50-Titanium/dp/B004RNSO2M>
>
> This is the best price I've seen on (I assume it's) decent 20W-50 (and I
> just bought 3 cases of Valvoline @ $4.99/qt + shipping).
>
> Bob
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I always drove gently for first 100 miles changing rpms an=
d speed, changed oil, then continued to drive and change oil again at 500 m=
iles. Varying speed and RPM. Not sure why we did this, something about seat=
ing the piston =C2=A0rings.=C2=A0<div>Clearly many ways to run in a new eng=
ine</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><div class=
=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Ira Erbs<div>Por=
tland,OR</div><div><span style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,ser=
if">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 _______ =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0_______</span><br style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">=
<span style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0=
=C2=A0 (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)</span><br style=3D"font-family:&=
#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New R=
oman&#39;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (_______________________=
__)</span></div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 BT7 engine and disk=
 brakes</div><div><br></div><div>Please excuse random auto corrects and mis=
spelled words</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 10:11 PM, Michael Ma=
cLean <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net"; targ=
et=3D"_blank">rrengineer.mike@att.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid=
;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"color:#000;background-color:#fff;font=
-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:16px"><div>=C2=A0A f=
riend who recently past away in January that had been rebuilding Healey mot=
ors for over forty years told me he just gets them started and idles them f=
or a while and then runs them gently for a 100 miles or so, changes the oil=
 and then it&#39;s your choice how careful of a break in you want to do.=C2=
=A0 He said he never had a problem with them or the cams during break in.=
=C2=A0 Go figure.=C2=A0 I also have an article that says as soon as you get=
 the motor started, run it at high rpm to seat the rings properly.=C2=A0 Th=
ey are talking about a motorcycle, so I am not sure if applies in our case,=
 but an interesting read.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"http://www.ntnoa=
.org/enginebreakin.htm" target=3D"_blank">New Engine Break-in Procedure</a>=
<br></div><div style=3D"width:450px;font-family:&#39;Georgia&#39;,&#39;Time=
s&#39;,&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,&#39;serif&#39;;margin-top:5px;margin-bott=
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5e5e5;font-size:1px;line-height:0px">=C2=A0</div></td></tr><tr><td rowspan=
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style=3D"word-wrap:break-word;word-break:break-all"><span></span><span></sp=
an><a href=3D"http://www.ntnoa.org/enginebreakin.htm"; style=3D"text-decorat=
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eight:20px;color:#999999;max-height:81px;font-family:&#39;Georgia&#39;,&#39=
;Times&#39;,&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,&#39;serif&#39;;overflow:hidden">When=
 a cylinder is new or overhauled
  the surface of it&#39;s walls are honed with abrasive stones to produce a=
 rough
  surface that will help wear the piston rings ...</div></div></div></td></=
tr><tr><td colspan=3D"2" style=3D"height:4px;background-color:#ffffff;font-=
size:0pt;border-collapse:collapse"><div style=3D"min-height:4px;background-=
color:#ffffff;font-size:4pt"></div></td></tr><tr><td style=3D"vertical-alig=
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a&#39;,&#39;sans-serif&#39;"><div style=3D"font-size:0pt"><a href=3D"http:/=
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!important;text-decoration:none" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"display:i=
nline-block;line-height:11px;max-width:145px;min-width:85px;overflow:hidden=
;max-height:13px;word-break:break-all"><span style=3D"vertical-align:middle=
;font-size:9px;line-height:11px;color:#999999">View on <span style=3D"font-=
weight:bold">www.ntnoa.org</span></span></span></a></div></td><td style=3D"=
vertical-align:middle;width:100px;font-family:&#39;Arial&#39;,&#39;Helvetic=
a Neue&#39;,&#39;Helvetica&#39;,&#39;sans-serif&#39;"><div style=3D"max-wid=
th:100px;min-width:80px;overflow:hidden;text-align:right;line-height:11px;m=
ax-height:13px;font-size:0pt"><span style=3D"vertical-align:middle;font-siz=
e:9px;line-height:11px;color:#999999">Preview by Yahoo</span></div></td></t=
r><tr><td colspan=3D"2" style=3D"height:9px;background-color:#ffffff;font-s=
ize:0pt;border-collapse:collapse"><div style=3D"min-height:9px;background-c=
olor:#ffffff;font-size:9pt"></div></td></tr><tr><td colspan=3D"8" style=3D"=
height:1px;background-color:#e5e5e5;font-size:1px;border-collapse:collapse"=
><div style=3D"min-height:1px;background-color:#e5e5e5;font-size:1px;line-h=
eight:0px">=C2=A0</div></td></tr></tbody></table></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><sp=
an>Mike MacLean</span></div> <div><br><br></div><div style=3D"display:block=
"> <div style=3D"font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size=
:16px"> <div style=3D"font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Ar=
ial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class=3D""> <div dir=3D"=
ltr"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> On Sunday, August 28, 2016 9:16 PM, M=
ichael Oritt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blan=
k">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></font></div> </span><blockquo=
te style=3D"border-left:2px solid rgb(16,16,255);margin-left:5px;margin-top=
:5px;padding-left:5px"> <br><br> <div><div><div><span class=3D""><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Ok I&#39;m gonna ask the question:=C2=A0 Who is rat 540?</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">A google search under his name seems not to reveal his ide=
ntity though he is a prolific and generous contributor on several fora. </d=
iv>
<div dir=3D"ltr">The article is extensive and certainly impressive and rat =
does go to great lengths to convince us of his process and conclusions.=C2=
=A0 That said it flies somewhat in the face of much other evidence and dire=
cts us fom one additive to=C2=A0 another.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Thoughts????</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Best--Michael Oritt</div>
</span><div><br clear=3D"none"><div><div><span class=3D"">On Aug 27, 2016 1=
2:33 AM, &quot;Michael Salter&quot; &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" =
href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">michaelsalter@gma=
il.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></span><blockquote style=3D"margin:=
0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D""><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size=
:small">Talking of oil here is an interesting article...VERY LONG... on lif=
ter wear that is opening some eyes!!!<br clear=3D"none"><a rel=3D"nofollow"=
 shape=3D"rect" href=3D"http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3D1&amp;=
t=3D32471" target=3D"_blank">http://speedtalk.com/forum/ viewtopic.php?f=3D=
1&amp;t=3D32471</a><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div style=
=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Certainly has me =
wondering...<br clear=3D"none"></div><div style=3D"font-family:comic sans m=
s,sans-serif;font-size:small">M<br clear=3D"none"></div></div></span><div><=
br clear=3D"none"><div><span class=3D"">On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Bo=
b Spidell <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"=
mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; target=3D"_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>&gt;=
</span> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></span><blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .=
8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D""><div><div=
 style=3D"font-family:Arial;font-size:12pt;color:#000000"><div>We never tal=
k about oil, so ....</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Anybody use th=
is stuff?</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=
=3D"rect" href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/Kendall-1057267-Performance-20W-50=
-Titanium/dp/B004RNSO2M" target=3D"_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Kendall -=
1057267-Performance-20W-50- Titanium/dp/B004RNSO2M</a></div><div><br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div>This is the best price I&#39;ve seen on (I assume it&#=
39;s) decent 20W-50 (and I just bought 3 cases of Valvoline @ $4.99/qt + sh=
ipping).</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Bob</div><div><br clear=3D=
"none"></div><div><span></span>------------------------------ --<br clear=
=3D"none">Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA<span></span><br clear=3D"none"></div><=
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