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Hondabond.....
Best regards,
Jim
> On Nov 5, 2016, at 4:01 PM, Roger Grace <roggrace@telus.net> wrote:
>=20
> Sorry to reopen this, but have this same leak in my BJ8 OD and fixing it i=
s one of my Winter projects.
> Given that the black sealant stuff that was used before didn=E2=80=99t las=
t (have no idea how long ago or what it is) and that there is no oil pressur=
e on the joint, am sensitive to using what is the appropriate goo that will l=
ast and contain the oil.
> Have done some checking around and the Hylomar universal blue is used by s=
ome shops that fix OD=E2=80=99s.
> Overdrive Services (ex Laycock people in UK) tell me that the originals we=
re sealed with a product called Wellseal.
> Nowadays they use a Wurth sealant that mentions flange mating in its websi=
te blurb.
> BTW they said that they could supply me with a gasket for this joint that s=
eems like a good idea ?
> =20
> The reality is that these are 2 Al flanges that are mated without a gasket=
. I wonder why ?. Plan to do some careful flatness checking when have my han=
ds on them. Has anyone had a problem with the mating flatness ? do they ha=
ve a tendency to warp over the years and maybe abuse too ? given the shape n=
ot easy to machine flat - why do they leak ?
> =20
> Comments/ideas please.
> rg
> =20
> =20
> From: David Porter
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 7:15 AM
> To: Bob Spidell ; John Spaur
> Cc: healeys
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Question
> =20
> seems like any RTV that is oil compliant will work. There is no internal p=
ressure that will force oil out. The oil level in the OD is just above the o=
perating shaft level, hence the need for the o-rings on the shaft.
> DaveP adding to the wisdom....
>=20
>> On 10/26/2016 7:40 AM, Bob Spidell wrote:
>> Soooooooo ... both types of Hylomar WILL seal the joint?
>> =20
>> =20
>> From: "John Spaur" mailto:jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net
>> To: "WILLIAM B LAWRENCE" mailto:YNOTINK@msn.com, "healeys" mailto:healeys=
@autox.team.net
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 8:27:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Question
>> =20
>> In my experiences neither of the two types Hylomar will not seal that joi=
nt.
>> =20
>> John Spaur
>> San Jose
>> =20
>> From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WILLIA=
M B LAWRENCE
>> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2016 8:26 PM
>> To: healeys@autox.team.net
>> Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive Question
>> =20
>> =E2=80=A6disassembly of the OD because it is seeping oil at the clutch ri=
ng. There are no gaskets, but I would like to smear some Hylomar on the join=
t faces to stop the leak.
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<div>Sorry to reopen this, but have this same leak in my BJ8 OD and fixing i=
t is=20
one of my Winter projects.</div>
<div>Given that the black sealant stuff that was used before didn=E2=80=99t l=
ast (have=20
no idea how long ago or what it is) and that there is no oil pressure on the=
=20
joint, am sensitive to using what is the appropriate goo that will last and=20=
contain the oil.</div>
<div>Have done some checking around and the Hylomar universal blue is used b=
y=20
some shops that fix OD=E2=80=99s.</div>
<div>Overdrive Services (ex Laycock people in UK) tell me that the originals=
=20
were sealed with a product called Wellseal.</div>
<div>Nowadays they use a Wurth sealant that mentions flange mating in its=20=
website blurb.</div>
<div>BTW they said that they could supply me with a gasket for this joint th=
at=20
seems like a good idea ?</div>
<div> </div>
<div>The reality is that these are 2 Al flanges that are mated without a gas=
ket.=20
I wonder why ?. Plan to do some careful flatness checking when have my hands=
on=20
them. Has anyone had a problem with the mating flatness ? do the=
y=20
have a tendency to warp over the years and maybe abuse too ? given the shape=
not=20
easy to machine flat - why do they leak ?</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Comments/ideas please.</div>
<div>rg</div>
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<div style=3D"font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"frogeye@porterscus=
tom.com">David Porter</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 26, 2016 7:15 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"bspidell@comcast.net">Bob Spidell</a> ; <a title=
=3D"jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net">John Spaur</a> </div>
<div><b>Cc:</b> <a title=3D"healeys@autox.team.net">healeys</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Question</div></div></div>
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libri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLA=
Y: inline">
<p>seems like any RTV that is oil compliant will work. There is no internal=20=
pressure that will force oil out. The oil level in the OD is just above the=20=
operating shaft level, hence the need for the o-rings on the shaft.</p>
<p>DaveP adding to the wisdom....<br></p><br>
<div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 10/26/2016 7:40 AM, Bob Spidell wrote:<br>=
</div>
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mcast.net" type=3D"cite">
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<div>Soooooooo ... both types of Hylomar WILL seal the joint?</div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
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</b>"John Spaur" <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E">mailto:jmsdarch@sbcglo=
bal.net</a><br><b>To:=20
</b>"WILLIAM B LAWRENCE" <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E">mailto:YNOTINK=
@msn.com</a>, "healeys" <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E">mailto:healeys@au=
tox.team.net</a><br><b>Sent:=20
</b>Tuesday, October 25, 2016 8:27:53 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys]=20=
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Behalf Of </b>WILLIAM B LAWRENCE<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, October 23, 2016 8=
:26=20
PM<br><b>To:</b> <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated">healeys@autox.team.=
net</a><br><b>Subject:</b>=20
[Healeys] Overdrive Question</span></p></div></div>
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rif; COLOR: black">disassembly of the OD=20
because it is seeping oil at the clutch ring. There are no gaskets, but I=20=
would like to smear some Hylomar on the joint faces to stop the leak.=20
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