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Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Question

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Question
From: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2016 12:38:04 -0500
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Out of interest I just did the calculations for the change in length of the
studs in this case.
Assuming:
4 x 5/16" dia studs with an effective diameter of 0.25" each (thread root)
and a length of 3" (in actual fact only the bottom pair are that long).
0.8 G of braking (which is probably way higher than our tires can generate)
Young's Modulus of 30,000,000 @ 100 degrees F
700 lbs of engine and gearbox (which is probably very high considering that
the the mounts are all rubber and the main engine mounts would absorb a
fair bit as well)
Works out to about 0.00028" of stretch.
That's less than 10% of a human hair and only during panic braking if the
tie rod is the only thing resisting the load.
I think that there must be other contributing factors...
Michael S
BN1 #174

On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Bluehealey <bluehealey@gmail.com> wrote:

> Team.
>
> I can agree that a good goo between the mating faces is important and the
> Japanese Motorcycle manufacturers will probably have the solution nailed.
> The root cause however isn=E2=80=99t necessarily pressure, flange flatnes=
s, or goo
> failure.
>
> It is more likely that the rear reaction strut (not sure what else to cal=
l
> it) causes the joint to flex a little and open every time the car slows
> under braking.  My theory and the solution I adopted can be found here:
>
> http://www.bluehealey.com/Struts.html
>
> No leaks from my gearbox.
>
>
>
> AlanB
>
> [image: cid:image001.png@01D18856.FC90FB60]
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *Ro=
ger
> Grace
> *Sent:* 05 November 2016 21:02
> *To:* David Porter; Healey List
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Question
>
>
>
> Sorry to reopen this, but have this same leak in my BJ8 OD and fixing it
> is one of my Winter projects.
>
> Given that the black sealant stuff that was used before didn=E2=80=99t la=
st (have
> no idea how long ago or what it is) and that there is no oil pressure on
> the joint, am sensitive to using what is the appropriate goo that will la=
st
> and contain the oil.
>
> Have done some checking around and the Hylomar universal blue is used by
> some shops that fix OD=E2=80=99s.
>
> Overdrive Services (ex Laycock people in UK) tell me that the originals
> were sealed with a product called Wellseal.
>
> Nowadays they use a Wurth sealant that mentions flange mating in its
> website blurb.
>
> BTW they said that they could supply me with a gasket for this joint that
> seems like a good idea ?
>
>
>
> The reality is that these are 2 Al flanges that are mated without a
> gasket. I wonder why ?. Plan to do some careful flatness checking when ha=
ve
> my hands on them.  Has anyone had a problem with the mating flatness ?  d=
o
> they have a tendency to warp over the years and maybe abuse too ? given t=
he
> shape not easy to machine flat - why do they leak ?
>
>
>
> Comments/ideas please.
>
> rg
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* David Porter
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 26, 2016 7:15 AM
>
> *To:* Bob Spidell ; John Spaur
>
> *Cc:* healeys
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Question
>
>
>
> seems like any RTV that is oil compliant will work. There is no internal
> pressure that will force oil out. The oil level in the OD is just above t=
he
> operating shaft level, hence the need for the o-rings on the shaft.
>
> DaveP adding to the wisdom....
>
>
>
> On 10/26/2016 7:40 AM, Bob Spidell wrote:
>
> Soooooooo ... both types of Hylomar WILL seal the joint?
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"John Spaur" mailto:jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net
> <jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net>
> *To: *"WILLIAM B LAWRENCE" mailto:YNOTINK@msn.com <YNOTINK@msn.com>,
> "healeys" mailto:healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, October 25, 2016 8:27:53 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Question
>
>
>
> In my experiences neither of the two types Hylomar will not seal that
> joint.
>
>
>
> John Spaur
>
> San Jose
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net
> <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net>] *On Behalf Of *WILLIAM B LAWRENCE
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 23, 2016 8:26 PM
> *To:* healeys@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Healeys] Overdrive Question
>
>
>
> =E2=80=A6disassembly of the OD because it is seeping oil at the clutch ri=
ng.
> There are no gaskets, but I would like to smear some Hylomar on the joint
> faces to stop the leak.
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sa=
ns ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Out of interest I just did the calculatio=
ns for the change in length of the studs in this case.<br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:=
small">Assuming:<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family=
:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">4 x 5/16&quot; dia studs with an=
 effective diameter of 0.25&quot; each (thread root) and a length of 3&quot=
; (in actual fact only the bottom pair are that long).<br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:=
small">0.8 G of braking (which is probably way higher than our tires can ge=
nerate) <br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic s=
ans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Young&#39;s Modulus of 30,000,000 @ 100 =
degrees F<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic =
sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">700 lbs of engine and gearbox (which is=
 probably very high considering that the the mounts are all rubber and the =
main engine mounts would absorb a fair bit as well)<br></div><div class=3D"=
gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:smal=
l">Works out to about 0.00028&quot; of stretch. <br>That&#39;s less than 10=
% of a human hair and only during panic braking if the tie rod is the only =
thing resisting the load.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fo=
nt-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">I think that there must=
 be other contributing factors...<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" sty=
le=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Michael S<br></=
div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-se=
rif;font-size:small">BN1 #174 <br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><b=
r><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Bluehealey <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bluehealey@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blan=
k">bluehealey@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:=
1ex"><div bgcolor=3D"white" link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72" lang=3D"EN-G=
B"><div class=3D"m_8461640192785312872WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Team.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">I can agree that a good goo between the mat=
ing faces is important and the Japanese Motorcycle manufacturers will proba=
bly have the solution nailed.=C2=A0 The root cause however isn=E2=80=99t ne=
cessarily pressure, flange flatness, or goo failure.<u></u><u></u></span></=
p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">It is more likely that =
the rear reaction strut (not sure what else to call it) causes the joint to=
 flex a little and open every time the car slows under braking.=C2=A0 My th=
eory and the solution I adopted can be found here:<u></u><u></u></span></p>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><a href=3D"http://www.blu=
ehealey.com/Struts.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.bluehealey.com/<wbr>S=
truts.html</a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;=
;color:#1f497d">No leaks from my gearbox.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:windowtext"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;C=
alibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">AlanB<u></u><u></u></spa=
n></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d"><img id=3D"m_846=
1640192785312872Picture_x0020_1" src=3D"cid:image001.png@01D23849.8B410D30"=
 alt=3D"cid:image001.png@01D18856.FC90FB60" width=3D"192" border=3D"0" heig=
ht=3D"87"></span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color=
:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;=
;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div><div style=3D"border:no=
ne;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:windowtext" lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-seri=
f&quot;;color:windowtext" lang=3D"EN-US"> Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto=
:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.<w=
br>team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Roger Grace<br><b>Sent:</b> 05 Novembe=
r 2016 21:02<br><b>To:</b> David Porter; Healey List</span></p><div><div cl=
ass=3D"h5"><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Question<u></u><u></=
u></div></div><p></p></div></div><div><div class=3D"h5"><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><d=
iv><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;">Sorry to reopen=
 this, but have this same leak in my BJ8 OD and fixing it is one of my Wint=
er projects.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><spa=
n style=3D"font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;">Given that the black seal=
ant stuff that was used before didn=E2=80=99t last (have no idea how long a=
go or what it is) and that there is no oil pressure on the joint, am sensit=
ive to using what is the appropriate goo that will last and contain the oil=
.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;">Have done some checking around and t=
he Hylomar universal blue is used by some shops that fix OD=E2=80=99s.<u></=
u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-f=
amily:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;">Overdrive Services (ex Laycock people in U=
K) tell me that the originals were sealed with a product called Wellseal.<u=
></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fon=
t-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;">Nowadays they use a Wurth sealant that =
mentions flange mating in its website blurb.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div>=
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&=
quot;">BTW they said that they could supply me with a gasket for this joint=
 that seems like a good idea ?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;">=C2=A0=
<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"f=
ont-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;">The reality is that these are 2 Al fl=
anges that are mated without a gasket. I wonder why ?. Plan to do some care=
ful flatness checking when have my hands on them.=C2=A0 Has anyone had a pr=
oblem with the mating flatness ?=C2=A0 do they have a tendency to warp over=
 the years and maybe abuse too ? given the shape not easy to machine flat -=
 why do they leak ?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;">=C2=A0<u></u><u></=
u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&=
quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;">Comments/ideas please.<u></u><u></u></span></p></=
div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Comic Sans=
 MS&quot;">rg<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></sp=
an></p></div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">=C2=A0<u></u=
><u></u></span></p></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"backgrou=
nd:whitesmoke"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&=
quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> David Porter <u>=
</u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background=
:whitesmoke"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Sent:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Wednesday, October=
 26, 2016 7:15 AM<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
 style=3D"background:whitesmoke"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">To:</span></b><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
> Bob Spidell ; John Spaur <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal" style=3D"background:whitesmoke"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Cc:</span></b><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-seri=
f&quot;"> healeys <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
" style=3D"background:whitesmoke"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Subject:</span></b><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&qu=
ot;"> Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Question<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div>=
</div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&=
quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><d=
iv><p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;=
">seems like any RTV that is oil compliant will work. There is no internal =
pressure that will force oil out. The oil level in the OD is just above the=
 operating shaft level, hence the need for the o-rings on the shaft.<u></u>=
<u></u></span></p><p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;">DaveP adding to the wisdom....<u></u><u></u></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">On 1=
0/26/2016 7:40 AM, Bob Spidell wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockq=
uote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;">Soooooooo ... both types of Hylomar WILL seal the joint?<u></u><u></u><=
/span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quo=
t;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div>=
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&q=
uot;sans-serif&quot;">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div class=3D"Ms=
oNormal" style=3D"text-align:center" align=3D"center"><span style=3D"font-f=
amily:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><hr id=3D"m_846164019278531=
2872zwchr" width=3D"100%" size=3D"2" align=3D"center"></span></div><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;">From: </span></b><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helv=
etica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&quot;John Spaur&quot; <a href=3D"mailt=
o:jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net" target=3D"_blank">mailto:jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net</=
a><br><b>To: </b>&quot;WILLIAM B LAWRENCE&quot; <a href=3D"mailto:YNOTINK@m=
sn.com" target=3D"_blank">mailto:YNOTINK@msn.com</a>, &quot;healeys&quot; <=
a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">mailto:healeys@a=
utox.team.net</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, October 25, 2016 8:27:53 PM<br><=
b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Question<u></u><u></u></span></p><di=
v><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&=
quot;sans-serif&quot;">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">In my experiences neither of the two typ=
es Hylomar will not seal that joint.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#=
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&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Healeys [<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@=
autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.<wbr>team.ne=
t</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>WILLIAM B LAWRENCE<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, Octob=
er 23, 2016 8:26 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"=
 target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] =
Overdrive Question</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
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ot;;color:#1f497d">=E2=80=A6</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri=
&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">disassembly of the OD because it is seeping =
oil at the clutch ring. There are no gaskets, but I would like to smear som=
e Hylomar on the joint faces to stop the leak. </span><u></u><u></u></p></d=
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