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Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more?

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more?
From: warthodson--- via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2020 18:02:07 +0000 (UTC)
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All I am saying is I find a lot of this hard to believe. For example:=C2=A0=
Synthetic oil has much better cleaning properties, flows much better than c=
onventional oil, and hence also lubricates much better than conventional oi=
l. "Much better" sounds good but is not very scientific. How much better, s=
cientifically speaking? Just changing oil regularly does what you are takin=
g about & none of it has to do with leaking unless you are counting on "slu=
dge & gunk" to plug the leaking holes. Good Luck! Careful=C2=A0rebuilding i=
ncluding paying close attention to applying sealants where applicable, like=
 bolt/screw threads when they are in contact=C2=A0with the oil will make a =
big difference. Re-tightening all the bolts after a break-in period will al=
so assist.=C2=A0Gary Hodson


=C2=A0From: Harold Manifold=C2=A0
Sent: January 11, 2020 10:53 AM
To: warthodson@aol.com; 050.rpl@gmail.com; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more? =C2=A0Hello, =C2=A0 Al=
l of your observations are a factor. Here are some comments from an article=
 about synthetic oil leaks: =C2=A0 Synthetic oil WILL NOT cause leaks. It m=
ay however make already worn-out gaskets/seals more evident, by leaking pas=
t them, and/or cleaning any sludge and other gunk that was sealing the exis=
ting leak. This is because Synthetic oil has much better cleaning propertie=
s, flows much better than conventional oil, and hence also lubricates much =
better than conventional oil (This is a good thing). =C2=A0 I use a GL-4 sy=
nthetic gear oil in my transmission and it leaks. Believe it not not one of=
 the leak mechanisms is from the interior along the bolts and drips from th=
e bolt head on the exterior. I am changing the gaskets on my transmission a=
nd trying bonded sealing neoprene washers on the fasteners. =C2=A0 I may be=
 pursuing the impossible dream of a leak free Healey.... Harold  =C2=A0 Fro=
m: warthodson@aol.com [mailto:warthodson@aol.com]=20
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 7:24 AM
To: manifold@telus.net; 050.rpl@gmail.com; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Does synthetic oil leak more? I am not a leak expert, but I find t=
his hard to understand. For there to be a leak there has to be a hole. Is i=
t because the synthetic oil molecules are smaller than the non-synthetic oi=
l molecules? Given that the "holes" come in different sizes this seems illo=
gical. Is it because the synthetic oil is more slippery? How is that measur=
ed? How much more slippery is it?=C2=A0  Gary Hodson -----Original Message-=
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From: Harold Manifold <manifold@telus.net>
To: 'R. Lindsay' <050.rpl@gmail.com>; 'Healey List' <healeys@autox.team.net=
>
Sent: Fri, Jan 10, 2020 7:55 pm
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear Axle Oil=20
The biggest difference you will notice with synthetic gear oils is they lea=
k
more than non-synthetic.   =C2=A0__________________________________________=
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<div style="color:black;font: 10pt arial;">All I am saying is I find a lot of 
this hard to believe. For example:&nbsp;<span style="font-family: Arial; 
font-size: small; color: darkred;">Synthetic oil has much better cleaning 
properties, flows much better than conventional oil, and hence also lubricates 
much better than conventional oil. "</span><span style="font-family: Arial; 
font-size: small;">Much better" sounds good but is not very scientific. How 
much better, scientifically speaking? Just changing oil regularly does what you 
are taking about &amp; none of it has to do with leaking unless you are 
counting on "sludge &amp; gunk" to plug the leaking holes. Good Luck! 
Careful&nbsp;rebuilding including paying close attention to applying sealants 
where applicable, like bolt/screw threads when they are in contact&nbsp;with 
the oil will make a big difference. Re-tightening all the bolts after a 
break-in period will also assist.&nbsp;</span>
<div><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: small;">Gary 
Hodson</span></div>

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none;PADDING-RIGHT:0cm;"><b>From: 
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</b><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect">warthodson@aol.com</a>; <a rel="nofollow" 
shape="rect">050.rpl@gmail.com</a>; 
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<div class="yiv0320298619MsoNormal"><span 
style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">Hello,</span></div>
 

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<div class="yiv0320298619MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">All of 
your observations are a factor. Here are some comments from an article about 
synthetic oil leaks:</span></div>
 

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<div class="yiv0320298619MsoNormal">Synthetic oil WILL NOT cause leaks. It may 
however make 
already worn-out gaskets/seals more evident, by leaking past them, and/or 
cleaning any sludge and other gunk that was sealing the existing leak. This is 
because Synthetic oil has much better cleaning properties, flows much better 
than conventional oil, and hence also lubricates much better than conventional 
oil (This is a good thing).</div>
 

<div class="yiv0320298619MsoNormal">&nbsp;</div>
 

<div class="yiv0320298619MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">I use a 
GL-4 synthetic gear oil in my transmission and it leaks. Believe it not not one 
of the leak mechanisms is from the interior along the bolts and drips from the 
bolt head on the exterior. I am changing the gaskets on my transmission and 
trying bonded sealing neoprene washers on the fasteners.</span></div>
 

<div class="yiv0320298619MsoNormal">&nbsp;</div>
 

<div class="yiv0320298619MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">I may be 
pursuing the impossible dream of a leak free Healey.... 
Harold</span></div>
 

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lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" 
style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;"> 
warthodson@aol.com [mailto:warthodson@aol.com] <br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> 
Saturday, 
January 11, 2020 7:24 AM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> manifold@telus.net; 
050.rpl@gmail.com; 
healeys@autox.team.net<br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Does synthetic oil leak 
more?</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></div>
 

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<div class="yiv0320298619MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">I am not 
a leak expert, but I find this hard to understand. For there to be a leak there 
has to be a hole. Is it because the synthetic oil molecules are smaller than 
the 
non-synthetic oil molecules? Given that the "holes" come in different sizes 
this 
seems illogical. Is it because the synthetic oil is more slippery? How is that 
measured? How much more slippery is it?&nbsp; </span></div>
 

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<div class="yiv0320298619MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-BOTTOM:12pt;"><span 
style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">Gary 
Hodson</span></div>
 

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style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;">-----Original 
Message-----<br clear="none">From: Harold Manifold 
&lt;manifold@telus.net&gt;<br clear="none">To: 'R. 
Lindsay' &lt;050.rpl@gmail.com&gt;; 'Healey List' 
&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br clear="none">Sent: Fri, Jan 10, 2020 7:55 
pm<br clear="none">Subject: 
Re: [Healeys] Rear Axle Oil</span></div>
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clear="none">The 
biggest difference you will notice with synthetic gear oils is they leak<br 
clear="none">more 
than non-synthetic. </span></div>
 

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