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Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more?

To: "'Jean Caron'" <vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com>, <050.rpl@gmail.com>, <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more?
From: "Mark Donaldson" <ardmorebusiness@xtra.co.nz>
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 13:55:02 +1300
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Even then, I wouldn=E2=80=99t be 100% confident.   =F0=9F=98=8A

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Mark

Ardmore, NZ

=20

From: Jean Caron <vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com>=20
Sent: Sunday, 12 January 2020 5:58 a.m.
To: Harold Manifold <manifold@telus.net>; warthodson@aol.com; =
050.rpl@gmail.com; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more?

=20

Harold,

It is possible to have a leak free Austin-Healey, once the oil has all =
drained out!!!!!!!

=20

Jean

=20

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986>  for =
Windows 10

=20

Sent: January 11, 2020 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more?

=20

Hello,

=20

All of your observations are a factor. Here are some comments from an =
article about synthetic oil leaks:

=20

Synthetic oil WILL NOT cause leaks. It may however make already worn-out =
gaskets/seals more evident, by leaking past them, and/or cleaning any =
sludge and other gunk that was sealing the existing leak. This is =
because Synthetic oil has much better cleaning properties, flows much =
better than conventional oil, and hence also lubricates much better than =
conventional oil (This is a good thing).

=20

I use a GL-4 synthetic gear oil in my transmission and it leaks. Believe =
it not not one of the leak mechanisms is from the interior along the =
bolts and drips from the bolt head on the exterior. I am changing the =
gaskets on my transmission and trying bonded sealing neoprene washers on =
the fasteners.

=20

I may be pursuing the impossible dream of a leak free Healey.... Harold

=20



[mailto:warthodson@aol.com]=20
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 7:24 AM
Subject: Does synthetic oil leak more?

I am not a leak expert, but I find this hard to understand. For there to =
be a leak there has to be a hole. Is it because the synthetic oil =
molecules are smaller than the non-synthetic oil molecules? Given that =
the "holes" come in different sizes this seems illogical. Is it because =
the synthetic oil is more slippery? How is that measured? How much more =
slippery is it? =20

Gary Hodson

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Fri, Jan 10, 2020 7:55 pm
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear Axle Oil


The biggest difference you will notice with synthetic gear oils is they =
leak
more than non-synthetic.=20

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vlink=3D"#954F72"><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Even=
 then, I wouldn=E2=80=99t be 100% confident.=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI =
Emoji",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>=F0=9F=98=8A</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p=
></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p=
>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Mark=
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Ardm=
ore, NZ<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><di=
v style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US> Jean Caron =
&lt;vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> =
Sunday, 12 January 2020 5:58 a.m.<br><b>To:</b> Harold Manifold =
&lt;manifold@telus.net&gt;; warthodson@aol.com; 050.rpl@gmail.com; =
healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic =
oil leak more?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>Harold,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>It is possible to have a leak free Austin-Healey, once the =
oil has all drained out!!!!!!!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA>Jean<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA>Sent from <a =
href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986";>Mail</a> for =
Windows 10<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-CA>From: =
</span></b><span lang=3DEN-CA><a =
href=3D"mailto:manifold@telus.net";>Harold Manifold</a><br><b>Sent: =
</b>January 11, 2020 10:53 AM<br><b>To: </b><a =
href=3D"mailto:warthodson@aol.com";>warthodson@aol.com</a>; <a =
href=3D"mailto:050.rpl@gmail.com";>050.rpl@gmail.com</a>; <a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>S=
ubject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak =
more?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue'>Hell=
o,</span><span lang=3DEN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue'>All =
of your&nbsp;observations are a factor. Here are some comments from an =
article about synthetic oil leaks:</span><span =
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>Synthetic oil WILL NOT cause leaks. It may however make =
already worn-out gaskets/seals more evident, by leaking past them, =
and/or cleaning any sludge and other gunk that was sealing the existing =
leak. This is because Synthetic oil has much better cleaning properties, =
flows much better than conventional oil, and hence also lubricates much =
better than conventional oil (This is a good =
thing).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue'>I =
use a GL-4 synthetic gear oil in my transmission and it leaks. Believe =
it not not one of the leak mechanisms is from the interior along the =
bolts and drips from the bolt head on the exterior. I am changing the =
gaskets on my transmission and trying bonded sealing neoprene washers on =
the fasteners.</span><span lang=3DEN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue'>I =
may&nbsp;be pursuing the impossible dream of a leak free Healey.... =
Harold</span><span lang=3DEN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US><img border=3D0 width=3D708 =
height=3D1 style=3D'width:7.375in;height:.0083in' =
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class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</span></=
b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> <a =
href=3D"mailto:warthodson@aol.com";>warthodson@aol.com</a> [<a =
href=3D"mailto:warthodson@aol.com";>mailto:warthodson@aol.com</a>] =
<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, January 11, 2020 7:24 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:manifold@telus.net";>manifold@telus.net</a>; <a =
href=3D"mailto:050.rpl@gmail.com";>050.rpl@gmail.com</a>; <a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>S=
ubject:</b> Does synthetic oil leak more?</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I =
am not a leak expert, but I find this hard to understand. For there to =
be a leak there has to be a hole. Is it because the synthetic oil =
molecules are smaller than the non-synthetic oil molecules? Given that =
the &quot;holes&quot; come in different sizes this seems illogical. Is =
it because the synthetic oil is more slippery? How is that measured? How =
much more slippery is it?&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=3DEN-CA =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Gar=
y Hodson<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=3DEN-CA =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>---=
--Original Message-----<br>From: Harold Manifold &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:manifold@telus.net";>manifold@telus.net</a>&gt;<br>To: 'R. =
Lindsay' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:050.rpl@gmail.com";>050.rpl@gmail.com</a>&gt;; 'Healey =
List' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>=
Sent: Fri, Jan 10, 2020 7:55 pm<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear Axle =
Oil<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><br=
>The biggest difference you will notice with synthetic gear oils is they =
leak<br>more than non-synthetic.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div></body></html>
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