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Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more?

To: "'Mark Donaldson'" <ardmorebusiness@xtra.co.nz>, "'Jean Caron'" <vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com>, <050.rpl@gmail.com>, <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more?
From: "Harold Manifold" <manifold@telus.net>
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 18:08:00 -0800
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What I am conflicted about is: "If there are no oil leaks what will =
prevent rust?"

  _____ =20

From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark =
Donaldson
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 4:55 PM
To: 'Jean Caron'; 050.rpl@gmail.com; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more?



Even then, I wouldn=E2=80=99t be 100% confident.   =F0=9F=98=8A

=20

Mark

Ardmore, NZ

=20

From: Jean Caron <vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com>=20
Sent: Sunday, 12 January 2020 5:58 a.m.
To: Harold Manifold <manifold@telus.net>; warthodson@aol.com; =
050.rpl@gmail.com; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more?

=20

Harold,

It is possible to have a leak free Austin-Healey, once the oil has all =
drained out!!!!!!!

=20

Jean

=20

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986>  for =
Windows 10

=20

Sent: January 11, 2020 10:53 AM
To: warthodson@aol.com; 050.rpl@gmail.com; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more?

=20

Hello,

=20

All of your observations are a factor. Here are some comments from an =
article about synthetic oil leaks:

=20

Synthetic oil WILL NOT cause leaks. It may however make already worn-out =
gaskets/seals more evident, by leaking past them, and/or cleaning any =
sludge and other gunk that was sealing the existing leak. This is =
because Synthetic oil has much better cleaning properties, flows much =
better than conventional oil, and hence also lubricates much better than =
conventional oil (This is a good thing).

=20

I use a GL-4 synthetic gear oil in my transmission and it leaks. Believe =
it not not one of the leak mechanisms is from the interior along the =
bolts and drips from the bolt head on the exterior. I am changing the =
gaskets on my transmission and trying bonded sealing neoprene washers on =
the fasteners.

=20

I may be pursuing the impossible dream of a leak free Healey.... Harold

=20



From: warthodson@aol.com [mailto:warthodson@aol.com]=20
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 7:24 AM
To: manifold@telus.net; 050.rpl@gmail.com; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Does synthetic oil leak more?

I am not a leak expert, but I find this hard to understand. For there to =
be a leak there has to be a hole. Is it because the synthetic oil =
molecules are smaller than the non-synthetic oil molecules? Given that =
the "holes" come in different sizes this seems illogical. Is it because =
the synthetic oil is more slippery? How is that measured? How much more =
slippery is it? =20

Gary Hodson

-----Original Message-----
From: Harold Manifold <manifold@telus.net>
To: 'R. Lindsay' <050.rpl@gmail.com>; 'Healey List' =
<healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, Jan 10, 2020 7:55 pm
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear Axle Oil


The biggest difference you will notice with synthetic gear oils is they =
leak
more than non-synthetic.=20

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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D766240602-13012020><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2 face=3DArial>What I am conflicted about is: "If there are no =
oil leaks what=20
will prevent rust?"</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
<DIV lang=3Den-us class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft>
<HR tabIndex=3D-1>
<FONT size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><B>From:</B> Healeys=20
[mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Mark=20
Donaldson<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 12, 2020 4:55 PM<BR><B>To:</B> =
'Jean=20
Caron'; 050.rpl@gmail.com; healeys@autox.team.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: =

[Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more?<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV class=3DWordSection1>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma",sans-serif; mso-fareast-language: =
EN-US'>Even then,=20
I wouldn=E2=80=99t be 100% confident.&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><SPAN=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 16pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif; =
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma",sans-serif; mso-fareast-language: =
EN-US'>Mark<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma",sans-serif; mso-fareast-language: =
EN-US'>Ardmore,=20
NZ<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-fareast-language: EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><B><SPAN lang=3DEN-US>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN =
lang=3DEN-US> Jean=20
Caron &lt;vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com&gt; <BR><B>Sent:</B> =
Sunday,=20
12 January 2020 5:58 a.m.<BR><B>To:</B> Harold Manifold=20
&lt;manifold@telus.net&gt;; warthodson@aol.com; 050.rpl@gmail.com;=20
healeys@autox.team.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic =
oil leak=20
more?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN lang=3DEN-CA>Harold,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN lang=3DEN-CA>It is possible to have a leak =
free=20
Austin-Healey, once the oil has all drained =
out!!!!!!!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN lang=3DEN-CA>Jean<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN lang=3DEN-CA>Sent from <A=20
href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986";>Mail</A> for =
Windows=20
10<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><B><SPAN lang=3DEN-CA>From: </SPAN></B><SPAN =
lang=3DEN-CA><A=20
href=3D"mailto:manifold@telus.net";>Harold Manifold</A><BR><B>Sent: =
</B>January 11,=20
2020 10:53 AM<BR><B>To: </B><A=20
href=3D"mailto:warthodson@aol.com";>warthodson@aol.com</A>; <A=20
href=3D"mailto:050.rpl@gmail.com";>050.rpl@gmail.com</A>; <A=20
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</A><BR><B>S=
ubject:=20
</B>Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak =
more?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN lang=3DEN-CA=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: =
blue'>Hello,</SPAN><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN lang=3DEN-CA>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN lang=3DEN-CA=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: =
blue'>All of=20
your&nbsp;observations are a factor. Here are some comments from an =
article=20
about synthetic oil leaks:</SPAN><SPAN =
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN lang=3DEN-CA>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN lang=3DEN-CA>Synthetic oil WILL NOT cause =
leaks. It may=20
however make already worn-out gaskets/seals more evident, by leaking =
past them,=20
and/or cleaning any sludge and other gunk that was sealing the existing =
leak.=20
This is because Synthetic oil has much better cleaning properties, flows =
much=20
better than conventional oil, and hence also lubricates much better than =

conventional oil (This is a good thing).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN lang=3DEN-CA>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN lang=3DEN-CA=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: =
blue'>I use a=20
GL-4 synthetic gear oil in my transmission and it leaks. Believe it not =
not one=20
of the leak mechanisms is from the interior along the bolts and drips =
from the=20
bolt head on the exterior. I am changing the gaskets on my transmission =
and=20
trying bonded sealing neoprene washers on the fasteners.</SPAN><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN lang=3DEN-CA>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN lang=3DEN-CA=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: =
blue'>I=20
may&nbsp;be pursuing the impossible dream of a leak free Healey....=20
Harold</SPAN><SPAN lang=3DEN-CA><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Tahoma",sans-serif'> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:warthodson@aol.com";>warthodson@aol.com</A> [<A=20
href=3D"mailto:warthodson@aol.com";>mailto:warthodson@aol.com</A>] =
<BR><B>Sent:</B>=20
Saturday, January 11, 2020 7:24 AM<BR><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:manifold@telus.net";>manifold@telus.net</A>; <A=20
href=3D"mailto:050.rpl@gmail.com";>050.rpl@gmail.com</A>; <A=20
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</A><BR><B>S=
ubject:</B>=20
Does synthetic oil leak more?</SPAN><SPAN =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN lang=3DEN-CA=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: =
black'>I am not=20
a leak expert, but I find this hard to understand. For there to be a =
leak there=20
has to be a hole. Is it because the synthetic oil molecules are smaller =
than the=20
non-synthetic oil molecules? Given that the "holes" come in different =
sizes this=20
seems illogical. Is it because the synthetic oil is more slippery? How =
is that=20
measured? How much more slippery is it?&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><SPAN lang=3DEN-CA=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: =
black'>Gary=20
Hodson<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><SPAN lang=3DEN-CA=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: =
black'>-----Original=20
Message-----<BR>From: Harold Manifold &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:manifold@telus.net";>manifold@telus.net</A>&gt;<BR>To: 'R. =
Lindsay'=20
&lt;<A href=3D"mailto:050.rpl@gmail.com";>050.rpl@gmail.com</A>&gt;; =
'Healey List'=20
&lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</A>&gt;<BR>=
Sent:=20
Fri, Jan 10, 2020 7:55 pm<BR>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear Axle=20
Oil<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN lang=3DEN-CA=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: =
black'><BR>The=20
biggest difference you will notice with synthetic gear oils is they =
leak<BR>more=20
than non-synthetic.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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