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Re: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID

To: richard mayor <boyracer466@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID
From: Harold Manifold <manifold@telus.net>
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 11:50:54 -0700
Cc: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>, S and T Miller <stmiller96@hotmail.com>
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Richard,

Very good information. Do you know if the 0.590 Mkll coil was used on the
Mkll BT7 or introduced with the BJ7?

Harold

On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 11:11=E2=80=AFAM richard mayor <boyracer466@gmail.c=
om>
wrote:

> Wire size is the way to identify coil spring rates.
>
> 100/6s and early 3000s had a wire size of .535=E2=80=9D, 225 lbs/in,  fre=
e length
> varies 11=E2=80=9D to 12=E2=80=9D;
>
> MKII coils are .590=E2=80=9D, 330 lbs/in, free length approx. 10-1/2=E2=
=80=9D,
>
> BJ8 coils are .610=E2=80=9D, 385 lbs/in, free length approx 10-1/4=E2=80=
=9D long
>
>
>
> Richard Mayor
> boyracer466@gmail.com
>
>
>
> On Oct 11, 2023, at 3:17 AM, S and T Miller via Healeys <
> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Thank you so much for taking the time to find this! Very helpful and much
> appreciated.  I had assumed the opposite when it came to spring length.
> Thanks again.
>
>
> The Millers
>
> "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test
> drive."
> ------------------------------
> *From:* simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com <
> simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 11, 2023 4:17 AM
> *To:* 'S and T Miller' <stmiller96@hotmail.com>
> *Cc:* 'Healeys' <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* RE: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID
>
> I dug this out of my records if it=E2=80=99s any use=E2=80=A6
> Simon
> QUOTE
> Simon Lachlan
> *From:*         Rich Locasso [LifeisRich@MacConnect.com]
> *Sent:*          11 September 1999 18:18
> *To:*             Healey List
> *Subject:*     Results from Coil Spring Posts
>
>
>
> Thanks to the many individuals who helped with my questions concerning
> coil springs for the Healey.
>
> Below are listed actual measurements of freestanding coil length taken by
> owners, except for the BN1-4 coil, which was a recollection of one owner.
>
> BN1 to BN4 - 14=E2=80=9D-15=E2=80=9D  (freestanding coil length)
> BN6        - 12=E2=80=9D
> BT7               - 11 13/16=E2=80=9D
> BJ8        - 10 1/8=E2=80=9D
>
>
>
> Coil thickness through BT7 was =C2=BD=E2=80=9D and for the BJ8 was 5/8=E2=
=80=9D.
>
> So the Healey front coil has become shorter and firmer as it has been
> upgraded through the years.
>
> More important, a number of owners reported fitting the BJ8 coil to
> earlier Healeys without problem and said ride height was unchanged or abo=
ut
> the same.
>
> I started this thread because Moss recommended the early spring for my BT=
7
> but logically it made more sense to me to install the spring specified at
> the end of the development cycle (BJ8) than at the beginning (BN1). I am
> going to buy the BJ8 spring because it will reduce body roll in cornering=
,
> handle a little better, and if it has a slightly firmer ride as one owner
> reported, I can easily tolerate that.
> Thanks again,
>
>
> Rich Locasso
> Huntington Beach, CA UNQUOTE
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *S and T
> Miller via Healeys
> *Sent:* 10 October 2023 13:29
> *To:* healeys@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID
>
>
> I have several ft coil springs that I'd like to identify.  I recall that
> there were 4 variations from the 100 to the BJ8. I believe I have the
> measurements for the 100, but was wondering if anyone had the specs for t=
he
> later three?
> TIA, Shawn
>
>
> The Millers
>
> "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test
> drive."
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Richard,<div><br></div><div>Very good information. Do you =
know if the 0.590 Mkll coil was used on the Mkll BT7 or introduced with the=
 BJ7?</div><div><br></div><div>Harold</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 11:11=E2=
=80=AFAM richard mayor &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com";>boyrace=
r466@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padd=
ing-left:1ex"><div>Wire size is the way to identify coil spring rates.<div>=
<br></div><div>100/6s and early 3000s had a wire size of .535=E2=80=9D, 225=
 lbs/in, =C2=A0free length varies 11=E2=80=9D to 12=E2=80=9D;</div><div><br=
></div><div>MKII coils are .590=E2=80=9D, 330 lbs/in, free length approx. 1=
0-1/2=E2=80=9D,</div><div><br></div><div>BJ8 coils are .610=E2=80=9D, 385 l=
bs/in, free length approx 10-1/4=E2=80=9D long</div><div><br></div><div><br=
></div><div><br><div>
<div>Richard Mayor</div><div><a href=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com"; targe=
t=3D"_blank">boyracer466@gmail.com</a></div><div><br></div><br>

</div>
<div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Oct 11, 2023, at 3:17 AM, S and =
T Miller via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=
=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br><div><div style=
=3D"color:inherit;font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;font-style:normal;f=
ont-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:st=
art;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px=
;text-decoration:none;background-color:transparent"></div><span style=3D"fo=
nt-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:norm=
al;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;t=
ext-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none=
;float:none;display:inline">Thank you so much for taking the time to find t=
his! Very helpful and much appreciated.=C2=A0 I had assumed the opposite wh=
en it came to spring length.=C2=A0 Thanks again.=C2=A0</span><div style=3D"=
font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:no=
rmal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px=
;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:no=
ne"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style=
:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text=
-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-sp=
acing:0px;text-decoration:none"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:Helveti=
ca;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:40=
0;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:non=
e;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">The Millers<br>=
=C2=A0<br>&quot;Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique ca=
r is a test drive.&quot;<br></div><hr style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-s=
ize:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-=
spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-s=
pace:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;display:inline-block;widt=
h:651.688px"><span style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style=
:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text=
-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-sp=
acing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline"></span><div id=3D=
"m_1993725130567980096divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Helve=
tica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:=
400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:n=
one;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><font face=3D=
"Calibri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b><span>=C2=A0</sp=
an><a href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com"; target=3D"_blank">s=
imon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@al=
exarevel.plus.com" target=3D"_blank">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>&=
gt;<br><b>Sent:</b><span>=C2=A0</span>Wednesday, October 11, 2023 4:17 AM<b=
r><b>To:</b><span>=C2=A0</span>&#39;S and T Miller&#39; &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:stmiller96@hotmail.com" target=3D"_blank">stmiller96@hotmail.com</a>&gt;=
<br><b>Cc:</b><span>=C2=A0</span>&#39;Healeys&#39; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:he=
aleys@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><=
b>Subject:</b><span>=C2=A0</span>RE: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID</font><d=
iv>=C2=A0</div></div><div lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;fon=
t-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;lett=
er-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;whit=
e-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><div><div style=3D"ma=
rgin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span>=
I dug this out of my records if it=E2=80=99s any use=E2=80=A6</span></div><=
div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,san=
s-serif"><span>Simon</span></div><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font=
-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span>QUOTE</span></div><div sty=
le=3D"border-width:medium medium medium 2.25pt;border-style:none none none =
solid;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor windowtext;paddin=
g:0cm 0cm 0cm 1pt;background:rgb(223,223,223)"><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm=
 0.0001pt 54pt;background:rgb(223,223,223);border:medium;padding:0cm;font-s=
ize:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-weight:bold"><span>Simon Lachlan=
</span></div><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 54pt;border:medium;paddi=
ng:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background:white"><b><sp=
an>From:</span></b><span>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 R=
ich Locasso [LifeisRich@MacConnect.com]</span></div><div style=3D"margin:0c=
m 0cm 0.0001pt 54pt;border:medium;padding:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Ar=
ial,sans-serif;background:white"><b><span>Sent:</span></b><span>=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 11 September 1999 18:18</span=
></div><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 54pt;border:medium;padding:0cm=
;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background:white"><b><span>To:=
</span></b><span>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Healey List</span></div><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001=
pt 54pt;border:medium;padding:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-ser=
if;background:white"><b><span>Subject:</span></b><span>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 Results from Coil Spring Posts</span></div></div><p style=3D"margin:=
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=A0</p><=
p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 6pt;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">=
Thanks to the many individuals who helped with my questions concerning coil=
 springs for the Healey.</p><p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 6pt;font-size:10pt;f=
ont-family:Arial,sans-serif">Below are listed actual measurements of freest=
anding coil length taken by owners, except for the BN1-4 coil, which was a =
recollection of one owner.</p><p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 6pt;font-size:10pt=
;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">BN1 to BN4 - 14=E2=80=9D-15=E2=80=9D=C2=A0 (=
freestanding coil length)</p><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-siz=
e:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">BN6=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 - 12=E2=80=9D</div><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-siz=
e:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">BT7=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 - 11 13/16=E2=80=9D</div><di=
v style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-=
serif">BJ8=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 - 10 1/8=E2=80=9D</div=
><p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,san=
s-serif">=C2=A0</p><p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 6pt;font-size:10pt;font-famil=
y:Arial,sans-serif">Coil thickness through BT7 was =C2=BD=E2=80=9D and for =
the BJ8 was 5/8=E2=80=9D.</p><p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 6pt;font-size:10pt;=
font-family:Arial,sans-serif">So the Healey front coil has become shorter a=
nd firmer as it has been upgraded through the years.</p><p style=3D"margin:=
0cm 0cm 6pt;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">More important, a =
number of owners reported fitting the BJ8 coil to earlier Healeys without p=
roblem and said ride height was unchanged or about the same.</p><p style=3D=
"margin:0cm 0cm 6pt;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">I started =
this thread because Moss recommended the early spring for my BT7 but logica=
lly it made more sense to me to install the spring specified at the end of =
the development cycle (BJ8) than at the beginning (BN1). I am going to buy =
the BJ8 spring because it will reduce body roll in cornering, handle a litt=
le better, and if it has a slightly firmer ride as one owner reported, I ca=
n easily tolerate that.</p><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 212.6pt;fo=
nt-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Thanks again,</div><p style=3D"m=
argin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=
=A0</p><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 212.6pt;font-size:10pt;font-fa=
mily:Arial,sans-serif">Rich Locasso</div><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.000=
1pt 212.6pt;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Huntington Beach, =
CA UNQUOTE</div><p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 212.6pt;font-size:10pt;=
font-family:Arial,sans-serif">=C2=A0</p><p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt=
;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span>=C2=A0</span></p><p s=
tyle=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-ser=
if"><span>=C2=A0</span></p><div><div style=3D"border-width:1pt medium mediu=
m;border-style:solid none none;border-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor c=
urrentcolor;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font=
-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</s=
pan></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"><span>=C2=A0</span>Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.=
team.net</a>&gt;<span>=C2=A0</span><b>On Behalf Of<span>=C2=A0</span></b>S =
and T Miller via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b><span>=C2=A0</span>10 October 2023 =
13:29<br><b>To:</b><span>=C2=A0</span><a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.=
net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span>=
=C2=A0</span>[Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID</span></div></div></div><p style=
=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=
=C2=A0</p><div><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-fa=
mily:Calibri,sans-serif"><span>I have several ft coil springs that I&#39;d =
like to identify.=C2=A0 I recall that there were 4 variations from the 100 =
to the BJ8. I believe I have the measurements for the 100, but was wonderin=
g if anyone had the specs for the later three?=C2=A0</span></div></div><div=
><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,s=
ans-serif"><span>TIA, Shawn=C2=A0</span></div></div><div><p style=3D"margin=
:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=A0</p>=
</div><div><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family=
:Calibri,sans-serif">The Millers<br>=C2=A0<br>&quot;Always drive them, but =
remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive.&quot;</div></div></d=
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