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Re: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID

To: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID
From: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 10:35:15 -0400
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On my BN2 they are 0.543" wire diameter.

On Thu., Oct. 12, 2023, 10:31 a.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <
healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:

> What is the wire size for the 100's?
> Gary
>
> On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 01:30:23 PM CDT, richard mayor <
> boyracer466@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Wire size is the way to identify coil spring rates.
>
> 100/6s and early 3000s had a wire size of .535=E2=80=9D, 225 lbs/in,  fre=
e length
> varies 11=E2=80=9D to 12=E2=80=9D;
>
> MKII coils are .590=E2=80=9D, 330 lbs/in, free length approx. 10-1/2=E2=
=80=9D,
>
> BJ8 coils are .610=E2=80=9D, 385 lbs/in, free length approx 10-1/4=E2=80=
=9D long
>
>
>
> Richard Mayor
> boyracer466@gmail.com
>
>
>
> On Oct 11, 2023, at 3:17 AM, S and T Miller via Healeys <
> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Thank you so much for taking the time to find this! Very helpful and much
> appreciated.  I had assumed the opposite when it came to spring length.
> Thanks again.
>
>
> The Millers
>
> "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test
> drive."
> ------------------------------
> *From:* simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com <
> simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 11, 2023 4:17 AM
> *To:* 'S and T Miller' <stmiller96@hotmail.com>
> *Cc:* 'Healeys' <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* RE: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID
>
> I dug this out of my records if it=E2=80=99s any use=E2=80=A6
> Simon
> QUOTE
> Simon Lachlan
> *From:*         Rich Locasso [LifeisRich@MacConnect.com]
> *Sent:*          11 September 1999 18:18
> *To:*             Healey List
> *Subject:*     Results from Coil Spring Posts
>
>
>
> Thanks to the many individuals who helped with my questions concerning
> coil springs for the Healey.
>
> Below are listed actual measurements of freestanding coil length taken by
> owners, except for the BN1-4 coil, which was a recollection of one owner.
>
> BN1 to BN4 - 14=E2=80=9D-15=E2=80=9D  (freestanding coil length)
> BN6        - 12=E2=80=9D
> BT7               - 11 13/16=E2=80=9D
> BJ8        - 10 1/8=E2=80=9D
>
>
>
> Coil thickness through BT7 was =C2=BD=E2=80=9D and for the BJ8 was 5/8=E2=
=80=9D.
>
> So the Healey front coil has become shorter and firmer as it has been
> upgraded through the years.
>
> More important, a number of owners reported fitting the BJ8 coil to
> earlier Healeys without problem and said ride height was unchanged or abo=
ut
> the same.
>
> I started this thread because Moss recommended the early spring for my BT=
7
> but logically it made more sense to me to install the spring specified at
> the end of the development cycle (BJ8) than at the beginning (BN1). I am
> going to buy the BJ8 spring because it will reduce body roll in cornering=
,
> handle a little better, and if it has a slightly firmer ride as one owner
> reported, I can easily tolerate that.
> Thanks again,
>
>
> Rich Locasso
> Huntington Beach, CA UNQUOTE
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *S and T
> Miller via Healeys
> *Sent:* 10 October 2023 13:29
> *To:* healeys@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID
>
>
> I have several ft coil springs that I'd like to identify.  I recall that
> there were 4 variations from the 100 to the BJ8. I believe I have the
> measurements for the 100, but was wondering if anyone had the specs for t=
he
> later three?
> TIA, Shawn
>
>
> The Millers
>
> "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test
> drive."
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<div dir=3D"auto">On my BN2 they are 0.543&quot; wire diameter.=C2=A0</div>=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu=
., Oct. 12, 2023, 10:31 a.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px=
 #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Comic Sans MS,=
sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">What is the wire size for the 100&#39;s?</div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">Gary</div><div><br></div>
       =20
        </div><div id=3D"m_-796947586393838000ydp5e82e9aeyahoo_quoted_76454=
86002">
            <div style=3D"font-family:&#39;Helvetica Neue&#39;,Helvetica,Ar=
ial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a">
               =20
                <div>
                    On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 01:30:23 PM CDT, rich=
ard mayor &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" re=
l=3D"noreferrer">boyracer466@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"m_-796947586393838000ydp5e82e9aeyiv30177686=
12"><div>Wire size is the way to identify coil spring rates.<div><br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div>100/6s and early 3000s had a wire size of .535=E2=80=
=9D, 225 lbs/in, =C2=A0free length varies 11=E2=80=9D to 12=E2=80=9D;</div>=
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>MKII coils are .590=E2=80=9D, 330 lbs/in=
, free length approx. 10-1/2=E2=80=9D,</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><=
div>BJ8 coils are .610=E2=80=9D, 385 lbs/in, free length approx 10-1/4=E2=
=80=9D long</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></di=
v><div><br clear=3D"none"><div>
<div>Richard Mayor</div><div><a href=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com"; targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">boyracer466@gmail.com</a></div><div><br cle=
ar=3D"none"></div><br clear=3D"none">

</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div id=3D"m_-79694758639=
3838000ydp5e82e9aeyiv3017768612yqtfd32437"><div>On Oct 11, 2023, at 3:17 AM=
, S and T Miller via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<=
/div><br clear=3D"none"><div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><di=
v id=3D"m_-796947586393838000ydp5e82e9aeyiv3017768612yqtfd83291"></div><div=
><div id=3D"m_-796947586393838000ydp5e82e9aeyiv3017768612yqtfd71716"><div s=
tyle=3D"color:inherit;font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;font-style:norm=
al;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:non=
e;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;background-color:transparent"></div=
><span style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font=
-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-=
spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">Thank=
 you so much for taking the time to find this! Very helpful and much apprec=
iated.=C2=A0 I had assumed the opposite when it came to spring length.=C2=
=A0 Thanks again.=C2=A0</span><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size=
:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0=
px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><br clear=3D"=
none"></div><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:n=
ormal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:=
none;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div s=
tyle=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:=
400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:=
0px;text-decoration:none">The Millers<br clear=3D"none">=C2=A0<br clear=3D"=
none">&quot;Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is=
 a test drive.&quot;<br clear=3D"none"></div><hr style=3D"font-family:Helve=
tica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal=
;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;=
display:inline-block;width:651.688px"><span style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;=
font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text=
-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float=
:none;display:inline!important"></span><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"m_-7969475863=
93838000ydp5e82e9aeyiv3017768612divRplyFwdMsg" style=3D"font-family:Helveti=
ca;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;t=
ext-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><=
font face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b><spa=
n>=C2=A0</span><a href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com"; target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a> &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D=
"noreferrer">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b=
>Sent:</b><span>=C2=A0</span>Wednesday, October 11, 2023 4:17 AM<br clear=
=3D"none"><b>To:</b><span>=C2=A0</span>&#39;S and T Miller&#39; &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:stmiller96@hotmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">stm=
iller96@hotmail.com</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b>Cc:</b><span>=C2=A0</span>=
&#39;Healeys&#39; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_=
blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">=
<b>Subject:</b><span>=C2=A0</span>RE: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID</font><=
div>=C2=A0</div></div><div lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;fo=
nt-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-i=
ndent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><div><=
div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,san=
s-serif"><span>I dug this out of my records if it=E2=80=99s any use=E2=80=
=A6</span></div><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-f=
amily:Calibri,sans-serif"><span>Simon</span></div><div style=3D"margin:0cm =
0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span>QUOTE</sp=
an></div><div style=3D"border-width:medium medium medium 2.25pt;border-styl=
e:none none none solid;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor =
windowtext;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 1pt;background:rgb(223,223,223)"><div style=
=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 54pt;background:rgb(223,223,223);border:medium;=
padding:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-weight:bold"><=
span>Simon Lachlan</span></div><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 54pt;b=
order:medium;padding:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;backgr=
ound:white"><b><span>From:</span></b><span>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Rich Locasso [LifeisRich@MacConnect.com]</span></div><di=
v style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 54pt;border:medium;padding:0cm;font-size=
:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background:white"><b><span>Sent:</span><=
/b><span>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 11 Septembe=
r 1999 18:18</span></div><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 54pt;border:=
medium;padding:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background:w=
hite"><b><span>To:</span></b><span>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Healey List</span></div><div style=3D"mar=
gin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 54pt;border:medium;padding:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-fam=
ily:Arial,sans-serif;background:white"><b><span>Subject:</span></b><span>=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Results from Coil Spring Posts</span></div></div><=
p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-=
serif">=C2=A0</p><p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 6pt;font-size:10pt;font-family:=
Arial,sans-serif">Thanks to the many individuals who helped with my questio=
ns concerning coil springs for the Healey.</p><p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 6p=
t;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Below are listed actual meas=
urements of freestanding coil length taken by owners, except for the BN1-4 =
coil, which was a recollection of one owner.</p><p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm =
6pt;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">BN1 to BN4 - 14=E2=80=9D-1=
5=E2=80=9D=C2=A0 (freestanding coil length)</p><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm=
 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">BN6=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 - 12=E2=80=9D</div><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm=
 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">BT7=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 - 11 13/16=
=E2=80=9D</div><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-fa=
mily:Calibri,sans-serif">BJ8=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 - 10=
 1/8=E2=80=9D</div><p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-=
family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=A0</p><p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 6pt;font-si=
ze:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Coil thickness through BT7 was =C2=BD=
=E2=80=9D and for the BJ8 was 5/8=E2=80=9D.</p><p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 6=
pt;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">So the Healey front coil ha=
s become shorter and firmer as it has been upgraded through the years.</p><=
p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 6pt;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">=
More important, a number of owners reported fitting the BJ8 coil to earlier=
 Healeys without problem and said ride height was unchanged or about the sa=
me.</p><p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 6pt;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans=
-serif">I started this thread because Moss recommended the early spring for=
 my BT7 but logically it made more sense to me to install the spring specif=
ied at the end of the development cycle (BJ8) than at the beginning (BN1). =
I am going to buy the BJ8 spring because it will reduce body roll in corner=
ing, handle a little better, and if it has a slightly firmer ride as one ow=
ner reported, I can easily tolerate that.</p><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0=
.0001pt 212.6pt;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Thanks again,<=
/div><p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri=
,sans-serif">=C2=A0</p><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 212.6pt;font-s=
ize:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Rich Locasso</div><div style=3D"marg=
in:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 212.6pt;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Hu=
ntington Beach, CA UNQUOTE</div><p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 212.6pt=
;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">=C2=A0</p><p style=3D"margin:=
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span>=C2=
=A0</span></p><p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-famil=
y:Calibri,sans-serif"><span>=C2=A0</span></p><div><div style=3D"border-widt=
h:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;border-color:rgb(225,225,2=
25) currentcolor currentcolor;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><div style=3D"margin:0cm=
 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span lang=
=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"><span>=C2=A0</span>Healeys =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=
=3D"noreferrer">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<span>=C2=A0</span><b=
>On Behalf Of<span>=C2=A0</span></b>S and T Miller via Healeys<br clear=3D"=
none"><b>Sent:</b><span>=C2=A0</span>10 October 2023 13:29<br clear=3D"none=
"><b>To:</b><span>=C2=A0</span><a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; ta=
rget=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br clear=3D"n=
one"><b>Subject:</b><span>=C2=A0</span>[Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID</span>=
</div></div></div><p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-f=
amily:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=A0</p><div><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.000=
1pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span>I have several ft =
coil springs that I&#39;d like to identify.=C2=A0 I recall that there were =
4 variations from the 100 to the BJ8. I believe I have the measurements for=
 the 100, but was wondering if anyone had the specs for the later three?=C2=
=A0</span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:=
11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span>TIA, Shawn=C2=A0</span></div></d=
iv><div><p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Cali=
bri,sans-serif">=C2=A0</p></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;=
font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">The Millers<br clear=3D"none=
">=C2=A0<br clear=3D"none">&quot;Always drive them, but remember each drive=
 in an antique car is a test drive.&quot;</div></div></div></div><span styl=
e=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400=
;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px=
;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">________________=
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