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Re: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID

To: "warthodson@aol.com" <warthodson@aol.com>, richard mayor <boyracer466@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID
From: S and T Miller <stmiller96@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 16:05:57 +0000
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I came up with 11.18" height (O.O.C.) and .53" for the wire. Fir the 100
Shawn


The Millers

"Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test dri=
ve."
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From: warthodson@aol.com <warthodson@aol.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 9:55 AM
To: S and T Miller <stmiller96@hotmail.com>; richard mayor <boyracer466@gma=
il.com>
Cc: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID

What is the wire size for the 100's?
Gary

On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 01:30:23 PM CDT, richard mayor <boyracer4=
66@gmail.com> wrote:


Wire size is the way to identify coil spring rates.

100/6s and early 3000s had a wire size of .535=94, 225 lbs/in,  free length=
 varies 11=94 to 12=94;

MKII coils are .590=94, 330 lbs/in, free length approx. 10-1/2=94,

BJ8 coils are .610=94, 385 lbs/in, free length approx 10-1/4=94 long



Richard Mayor
boyracer466@gmail.com



On Oct 11, 2023, at 3:17 AM, S and T Miller via Healeys <healeys@autox.team=
.net> wrote:

Thank you so much for taking the time to find this! Very helpful and much a=
ppreciated.  I had assumed the opposite when it came to spring length.  Tha=
nks again.


The Millers

"Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test dri=
ve."
________________________________
From: simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 4:17 AM
To: 'S and T Miller' <stmiller96@hotmail.com>
Cc: 'Healeys' <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID

I dug this out of my records if it=92s any use=85
Simon
QUOTE
Simon Lachlan
From:         Rich Locasso [LifeisRich@MacConnect.com]
Sent:          11 September 1999 18:18
To:             Healey List
Subject:     Results from Coil Spring Posts



Thanks to the many individuals who helped with my questions concerning coil=
 springs for the Healey.

Below are listed actual measurements of freestanding coil length taken by o=
wners, except for the BN1-4 coil, which was a recollection of one owner.

BN1 to BN4 - 14=94-15=94  (freestanding coil length)

BN6        - 12=94
BT7               - 11 13/16=94
BJ8        - 10 1/8=94



Coil thickness through BT7 was =BD=94 and for the BJ8 was 5/8=94.

So the Healey front coil has become shorter and firmer as it has been upgra=
ded through the years.

More important, a number of owners reported fitting the BJ8 coil to earlier=
 Healeys without problem and said ride height was unchanged or about the sa=
me.

I started this thread because Moss recommended the early spring for my BT7 =
but logically it made more sense to me to install the spring specified at t=
he end of the development cycle (BJ8) than at the beginning (BN1). I am goi=
ng to buy the BJ8 spring because it will reduce body roll in cornering, han=
dle a little better, and if it has a slightly firmer ride as one owner repo=
rted, I can easily tolerate that.

Thanks again,



Rich Locasso
Huntington Beach, CA UNQUOTE







From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of S and T Miller =
via Healeys
Sent: 10 October 2023 13:29
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID



I have several ft coil springs that I'd like to identify.  I recall that th=
ere were 4 variations from the 100 to the BJ8. I believe I have the measure=
ments for the 100, but was wondering if anyone had the specs for the later =
three?
TIA, Shawn



The Millers

"Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test dri=
ve."
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<div>I came up with 11.18&quot; height (O.O.C.) and .53&quot; for the wire.=
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<div>100/6s and early 3000s had a wire size of .535=94, 225 lbs/in, &nbsp;f=
ree length varies 11=94 to 12=94;</div>
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<div>MKII coils are .590=94, 330 lbs/in, free length approx. 10-1/2=94,</di=
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<div>BJ8 coils are .610=94, 385 lbs/in, free length approx 10-1/4=94 long</=
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<div>Richard Mayor</div>
<div>boyracer466@gmail.com</div>
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<b><span>From:</span></b><span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp; Rich Locasso [LifeisRich@MacConnect.com]</span></div>
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<b><span>Sent:</span></b><span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp; 11 September 1999 18:18</span></div>
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<b><span>Subject:</span></b><span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Results from Coi=
l Spring Posts</span></div>
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&nbsp;</p>
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m 6pt; font-size:10pt; font-family:Arial,sans-serif">
Thanks to the many individuals who helped with my questions concerning coil=
 springs for the Healey.</p>
<p class=3D"x_ydp5e82e9aeyiv3017768612x_MsoBodyText" style=3D"margin:0cm 0c=
m 6pt; font-size:10pt; font-family:Arial,sans-serif">
Below are listed actual measurements of freestanding coil length taken by o=
wners, except for the BN1-4 coil, which was a recollection of one owner.</p=
>
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m 6pt; font-size:10pt; font-family:Arial,sans-serif">
BN1 to BN4 - 14=94-15=94&nbsp; (freestanding coil length)</p>
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sans-serif">
BN6&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - 12=94</div>
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sans-serif">
BT7&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp; - 11 13/16=94</div>
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BJ8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - 10 1/8=94</div>
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Coil thickness through BT7 was =BD=94 and for the BJ8 was 5/8=94.</p>
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m 6pt; font-size:10pt; font-family:Arial,sans-serif">
So the Healey front coil has become shorter and firmer as it has been upgra=
ded through the years.</p>
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m 6pt; font-size:10pt; font-family:Arial,sans-serif">
More important, a number of owners reported fitting the BJ8 coil to earlier=
 Healeys without problem and said ride height was unchanged or about the sa=
me.</p>
<p class=3D"x_ydp5e82e9aeyiv3017768612x_MsoBodyText" style=3D"margin:0cm 0c=
m 6pt; font-size:10pt; font-family:Arial,sans-serif">
I started this thread because Moss recommended the early spring for my BT7 =
but logically it made more sense to me to install the spring specified at t=
he end of the development cycle (BJ8) than at the beginning (BN1). I am goi=
ng to buy the BJ8 spring because
 it will reduce body roll in cornering, handle a little better, and if it h=
as a slightly firmer ride as one owner reported, I can easily tolerate that=
.</p>
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Arial,sans-serif">
Thanks again,</div>
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Rich Locasso</div>
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<span>I have several ft coil springs that I'd like to identify.&nbsp; I rec=
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<span>TIA, Shawn&nbsp;</span></div>
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