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Re: Painting TR4

To: "Malcolm Walker" <walker05@camosun.bc.ca>
Subject: Re: Painting TR4
From: "jonmac" <jonmac@ndirect.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 08:19:17 +0100
Cc: "List, Tiumphs" <triumphs@Autox.Team.Net>
> > it) Blackjack and just the sort of thing not to get near a pair of
white
> > cricket flannels or a bride's dress. 
> 
> What color is it?  I'm assuming black, but I came across a lot of orange
> bubbly not-too-flexible-any-more type of stuff in many joints.  I'm
pretty
> sure it was reddish-orange, and was also under the (original) signal red
> paint.
 
Yes, orange was one colour. The name blackjack comes from the same sort of
product they used pre 1939 and the name just stuck (no pun.)

> > During body assembly, the facing surfaces on body joins were daubed
with Blackjack and then as the surfaces 'kissed' and were tighted in place,
> > there was a certain amount of ooze from displaced blackjack.
> 
> Was it used for every single join (spot-weld...?) or just the ones the
end
> user would see?

Sorry, a bit knackered when I wrote the above. To clarify, it was applied
where surfaces were mated with fasteners or over spot welds in areas where
water spray from wheelhouses and chassis deflection points was likely to
find its way in. Never used as a sandwich on spot welds 'cos there would be
no electrical path and the weld wouldn't work.

> The inside of the trunk of our 83 Oldsmobile seems to have a sort of
> plasticy compound.  I don't know where I can get it- but I bet I could
> find out next time I'm near a body shop / paint store.

Sounds like the same sort of thing

> I've used roof patch compound, which is about the consistency of
> toothpaste (though not as tasty), and has a lot of asphalt and fibrous
> stuff in it.  It works well as a temporary measure, for holes that I
don't
> want to fix, I also swim a bit of zinc stripping (also used on roofs, to
> eliminate moss), cut to fit, and glued in.
> It hardens in a month or more.  It does seem to get a bit brittle, but
> only if you use far too much- I try to keep it thin and out of the
> weather- and haven't had any trouble now.
> FWIW it also seems to take paint, but I will have to wait and see if
> there's any cracking or bleed-through or other nasties.

The other thing you could use is an epoxy resin putty - there are various
types on the market. Once its mixed, you roll it into shapes like playdough
and kneed it into small crevices, then smooth it over. This stuff cures
fully in about 3 hours or less and it's brilliant. Could be expensive and
sets steel hard. BUT - once it has SET, it HAS set. I've seen it used to
stop leaks from fuel tanks and IMHO its every bit as good as welding. I
suppose we're now getting into sledgehammer and nut country but as a last
resort.............?

jonmac

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