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Re: Valve Seat Recession - More questions

To: bradlnss@lightspeed.net, triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Valve Seat Recession - More questions
From: ZinkZ10C@aol.com
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 08:05:25 EST
In a message dated 2/18/01 7:18:02 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
bradlnss@lightspeed.net writes:

<< I have one recommendation to replace the seat in the exhaust area only as
 there is little room to do both intake and exhaust. Agree - disagree?>>


The valves on my 1.6L Kent ( Ford ) engine used in a Formula Ford road racer 
car are very close together.  The machine shop installed one replacement seat 
then cut into the other to allow fitment of both.

 
<< Any experience with either Stainless steel valves or the (gulp!) $22.95
 each, Moss Stellite valve? Any recommendations one over the other?>>

Over on the Porsche 914 list ( air cooled 4 cylinder engine same as 72 to 83 
VW Bus) listers tend to have a problem with valve tips breaking off allowing 
the valve to hit the piston :+(.  The valves that don't break tips tend to 
have pitted tips also chewing up the rocker arms.  SS valves don't seem to be 
a answer.

Stellite is a very common valve material and probably the best choice.
 
 <<Any difference in quality between The Roadster Factory bronze guides and 
the
 nearly twice as expensive Moss manganese-bronze guides?>>

They might be the same, ask your machine shop operator what he uses.

<< Fit modern silicone guide seals? Yes - No? Any alternatives or no seal at
 all?>>

There is a delicate balance between guide wear and oil burning.  In general, 
overhead cam engines need tighter valve seals to combat all the oil being 
splashed around.  Some came in block engines (350 Chevy) use a o ring 
directly under the valve keeper and have a totally exposed valve guide.  When 
new this is sufficient but as the guides wear, oil burning increases.

Some engines use "umbrella" seals, these are fastened to the valve stem 
sheilding the guide from direct oil drips.  

Your machine shop operator would be the best choice for recommending a seal.

 
<< Valve springs - replace as a matter of course or have the machine shop test
 them?>>

Are the valve springs as old as the car? If so it's a good idea to toss them 
and install _quality_ replacements.  Even though they may pass tension, metal 
fatigue becomes a issue on older/ high mileage springs.  If they were 
replaced 20,000 miles ago a tension check would be just fine.

Harold
 
 


<<Thanks again for the help and for those who previously responded!
 
 Brad Eells
 65 TR4A (with bad exhaust valves) >>

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