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To: "Navarrette, Vance" <vance.navarrette@intel.com>,
Subject: [TR] Re: Off idle stumble
From: John Mitchell <jmitch@snet.net>
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 23:09:56 -0400
Thanks to everyone who replied to my problem.  As I need to drive the 
car across the state tomorrow for a show, I was going to shotgun the 
problem and change everything that had been suggested.  I did change the 
distributor cap, rotor and coil, then started in on the carb side of the 
engine when I remembered that a couple weeks back I had tried the 
external oil feed line.  I had so much oil to the head, is was being 
sucked into the carbs, and apparently had completely plugged the 
evaporative canister.  I replaced the canister and the problem was 
solved.  I guess the oil saturated charcoal was acting like the 
anti-run-on valve and choking the engine.  Thanks again, you guys are 
great.  John

Navarrette, Vance wrote:

>       John:
>
>       Does the engine bog, or is it more like a 'pop' or miss?
>       Does it go away if you give it a tiny bit of choke?
>       Is the engine slow to settle to an idle as you pull up to a
>stop?
>
>       What you are describing is most likely a lean mixture just off
>idle. This can be caused by a couple of things:
>
>       Low/no oil in your dashpots
>       A faulty damper that lets the air valve rise too quickly.
>       Wrong oil in your dash pots.
>       Mixture set too lean.
>       Bypass valve leaking at idle.
>       
>       If the stumble goes away when you crack open the choke and the
>engine is warm, then it is most likely a lean mixture. You will need to
>eliminate the possible causes one by one.
>
>       The retard unit on your dizzy is functioning correctly if the
>idle speed rises when you pull off the vacuum line.
>       Be sure that you are setting your timing to 10BTDC with the
>retard vacuum line DISCONNECTED and PLUGGED. If you are leaving your
>vacuum line on when you set the timing, set the timing to 4 ATDC. 
>
>       Let me hear from you, and we can work through the possibilities.
>
>       Vance
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-6pack@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-6pack@autox.team.net] On
>Behalf Of John Mitchell
>Sent: September 29, 2006 1:50 PM
>To: triumphs@autox.team.net; 6 Pack
>Subject: Off idle stumble
>
>     I have a stumble as I pull away in 1st gear once the car warms up.
>
>Once I get rolling, everything seems normal.  Ive recently changed 
>distributor because of wobble in the old one. Its a newly rebuilt lucas 
>and the timing appears to be right on including the retard unit.  When I
>
>pull the hose off the retard capsule, the engine does increase speed by 
>about 500 rpm, not sure if that's normal.  I also recently adjusted the 
>temperature compensators per Nelson Riedle's article.  They didn't seem 
>to be working at all before.  Since this seems to be temperature 
>related, should this be the first thing to suspect?  Dashpots are 
>filled.  Any advice would be appreciated.  John Mitchell  76 TR6
>
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