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Re: [TR] TR3A Leaf Spring front pin/bolt

To: "'Art McEwen'" <amcewen2@cogeco.ca>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A Leaf Spring front pin/bolt
From: "Randall" <TR3driver@ca.rr.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 14:47:45 -0700
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That would indeed be a problem; but as Michael said, I don't believe that is 
the case in your photo.  
 

-- Randall 

 


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From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Art McEwen
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 12:58 PM
To: Randall
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A Leaf Spring front pin/bolt


What happens if somebody has welded the old pin in place?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/j33n858w0pp0btx/img_0591.jpg?dl=0
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On Sep 18, 2015, at 12:17 PM, Randall <TR3driver@ca.rr.com> wrote:



My method:

Hardened all-thread, hardened nuts, extra thick hardened flat washers (aka 
setup washers) all from MMC. (ISTR the thread is 5/16 NF,
but double-check that)

Soak the pin in PBB (or your choice of penetrating oil) for several weeks 
beforehand.

Use a bottoming tap to clean out the threads in the head. 

Find a suitable socket that will just fit over the head of the pin (and the 
little tab on the frame).  Cut a piece of all-thread
about 4" long, and use double nuts to lightly torque it into the head of the 
pin.  Remove the nuts, lube the threads with the best
lube you've got, then use the setup washer and one nut to pull the pin out as 
far as the socket will allow.  Took a bunch of torque
(I used an extra-long box end wrench and grabbed the car to pull against) but 
the pin moved before anything broke.  Add a suitable
spacer and pull some more.  Lather, rinse, repeat until the pin falls out.  I 
replaced the nut & all-thread once or twice, as they
were looking worn.

Or; take the body off and commence pounding with a BFH.  I've always succeeded 
with the first method but I'm not certain it's
actually easier than taking the body off <g>

If you grease the pin up good with copper-based anti-seize before 
reinstallation, it will pop right out next time.

-- Randall  



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<P><FONT size=3D2>-- Randall </FONT></P>
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  <FONT size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><B>From:</B> Triumphs=20
  [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Art=20
  McEwen<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 29, 2015 12:58 =
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  Randall<BR><B>Cc:</B> triumphs@autox.team.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
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  Leaf Spring front pin/bolt<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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  <DIV>What happens if somebody has welded the old pin in place?</DIV>
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  <DIV><BR>On Sep 18, 2015, at 12:17 PM, Randall &lt;<A=20
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    <DIV><SPAN>My method:</SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>Hardened =
all-thread,=20
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all=20
    from MMC. (ISTR the thread is 5/16 NF,</SPAN><BR><SPAN>but =
double-check=20
    that)</SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>Soak the pin in PBB (or your =
choice=20
    of penetrating oil) for several weeks=20
    beforehand.</SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>Use a bottoming tap to =
clean=20
    out the threads in the head. </SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>Find =
a=20
    suitable socket that will just fit over the head of the pin (and the =
little=20
    tab on the frame). &nbsp;Cut a piece of =
all-thread</SPAN><BR><SPAN>about 4"=20
    long, and use double nuts to lightly torque it into the head of the =
pin.=20
    &nbsp;Remove the nuts, lube the threads with the =
best</SPAN><BR><SPAN>lube=20
    you've got, then use the setup washer and one nut to pull the pin =
out as far=20
    as the socket will allow. &nbsp;Took a bunch of =
torque</SPAN><BR><SPAN>(I=20
    used an extra-long box end wrench and grabbed the car to pull =
against) but=20
    the pin moved before anything broke. &nbsp;Add a=20
    suitable</SPAN><BR><SPAN>spacer and pull some more. &nbsp;Lather, =
rinse,=20
    repeat until the pin falls out. &nbsp;I replaced the nut &amp; =
all-thread=20
    once or twice, as they</SPAN><BR><SPAN>were looking=20
    worn.</SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>Or; take the body off and =
commence=20
    pounding with a BFH. &nbsp;I've always succeeded with the first =
method but=20
    I'm not certain it's</SPAN><BR><SPAN>actually easier than taking the =
body=20
    off &lt;g&gt;</SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>If you grease the pin =
up good=20
    with copper-based anti-seize before reinstallation, it will pop =
right out=20
    next time.</SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>-- Randall=20
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