Re: [TR] Tr3a steering tight after rebuild

["Art McEwen" <amcewen2@cogeco.ca>]

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Further update=2E=C2=A0

So I think what happened is my final torque down of the end cap on the s=
teering box was tighter than my shim bench tests or something settled du=
ring that and caused binding=2E When I took it all off and reset everyth=
ing with a McGiver=27d way of measuring the float it all seemed good on =
2nd install=2E The new bushings/felt in the upper shaft added some stiff=
ness too=2E


BTW some claim this can be done without removing the cowl (and therefore=
 presumably the rad)=2C I=27d pay good money to see that on youtube=2E=2E=
=2E=2E

On 05/17/20=2C andrew uprichard  =3Cauprichard=40uprichard=2Enet=3E wrot=
e=3A
=3E (Where is Randall when you need him=3F =F0=9F=98=8A)
=3E =

=3E When you say =22significantly tighter=22 is this turning the steerin=
g with the tie rods connected =3F You should be able to turn the steerin=
g wheel with a finger tip if the car is in the air=2E You should also be=
 able to grab a wheel and take it through its full range of motion (ever=
ything connected) fairly easily=2E
=3E =

=3E The felt at the steering wheel should not be an issue - and=2C if an=
ything=2C should just be soaked in oil prior to installation=2E =

=3E =

=3E If it is binding=2C and not eased by loosening the box (and=2C by in=
ference=2C the pressure on the peg) it is probably related more to the s=
hims at the bottom of the box than the bearings themselves=2E Did you fo=
llow the method Randall suggests with measuring end-float and shimming a=
ppropriately=3F
=3E =

=3E Andrew Uprichard
=3E Jackson=2C Michigan
=3E =

=3E -----Original Message-----
=3E From=3A Triumphs =3Ctriumphs-bounces=40autox=2Eteam=2Enet=3E On Beha=
lf Of Art McEwen
=3E Sent=3A Sunday=2C May 17=2C 2020 2=3A11 PM
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=3E Subject=3A =5BTR=5D Tr3a steering tight after rebuild
=3E =

=3E Re-installed my rebuilt steering box and=2C even though it felt fine=
 on the bench=2C back in the car the steering is significantly tighter=2E=
 Not quite a parking lot 3-point turn level of effort but well beyond fi=
nger tip effort=2E And this is while still up on jacks with the set scre=
w backed right off=2E I loosened off the shim cover bolts thinking I was=
 too tight but no difference=2E It doesn=27t feel like it=27s binding at=
 any point of the travel=2C it=27s tight lock to lock=2E I waited until =
the shaft was reassembled before tightening the box attachment bolts so =
the box would align to the shaft=2C not vice versa=2E
=3E =

=3E Could this really all be down to resistance from the 2 new bearings =
in the split shaft (plenty of grease added) and the new felt at the stee=
ring wheel=3F =

=3E =

=3E Also should the upper felt be greased/oiled=3F
=3E =

=3E Thanks=2C
=3E =

=3E Art=2E 60tr
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Further update=2E=C2=A0=3Cdiv=3E=3Cbr /=3E=3C/div=3E=3Cdiv=3ESo I think =
what happened is my final torque down of the end cap on the steering box=
 was tighter than my shim bench tests or something settled during that a=
nd caused binding=2E=C2=A0 =C2=A0When I took it all off and reset everyt=
hing with a McGiver=27d way of measuring the float it all seemed good on=
 2nd install=2E=C2=A0 =C2=A0The new bushings/felt in the upper shaft add=
ed some stiffness too=2E=3C/div=3E=3Cdiv=3E=3Cbr /=3E=3C/div=3E=3Cdiv=3E=
BTW some claim this can be done without removing the cowl (and therefore=
 presumably the rad)=2C I=27d pay good money to see that on youtube=2E=2E=
=2E=2E=3Cbr /=3E=3Cbr /=3E=3Cspan=3EOn 05/17/20=2C =3Cb class=3D=22name=22=
=3Eandrew uprichard =3C/b=3E =26lt=3Bauprichard=40uprichard=2Enet=26gt=3B=
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(Where is Randall when you need him=3F=C2=A0 =F0=9F=98=8A)=3Cbr /=3E=3Cb=
r /=3EWhen you say =26quot=3Bsignificantly tighter=26quot=3B is this tur=
ning the steering with the tie rods connected =3F You should be able to =
turn the steering wheel with a finger tip if the car is in the air=2E=C2=
=A0 You should also be able to grab a wheel and take it through its full=
 range of motion (everything connected) fairly easily=2E=3Cbr /=3E=3Cbr =
/=3EThe felt at the steering wheel should not be an issue - and=2C if an=
ything=2C should just be soaked in oil prior to installation=2E=C2=A0 =3C=
br /=3E=3Cbr /=3EIf it is binding=2C and not eased by loosening the box =
(and=2C by inference=2C the pressure on the peg) it is probably related =
more to the shims at the bottom of the box than the bearings themselves=2E=
=C2=A0 Did you follow the method Randall suggests with measuring end-flo=
at and shimming appropriately=3F=3Cbr /=3E=3Cbr /=3EAndrew Uprichard=3Cb=
r /=3EJackson=2C Michigan=3Cbr /=3E=3Cbr /=3E-----Original Message-----=3C=
br /=3EFrom=3A Triumphs =26lt=3Btriumphs-bounces=40autox=2Eteam=2Enet=26=
gt=3B On Behalf Of Art McEwen=3Cbr /=3ESent=3A Sunday=2C May 17=2C 2020 =
2=3A11 PM=3Cbr /=3ETo=3A triumphs=40autox=2Eteam=2Enet=3Cbr /=3ESubject=3A=
 =5BTR=5D Tr3a steering tight after rebuild=3Cbr /=3E=3Cbr /=3ERe-instal=
led my rebuilt steering box and=2C even though it felt fine on the bench=
=2C back in the car the steering is significantly tighter=2E=C2=A0 Not q=
uite a parking lot 3-point turn level of effort but well beyond finger t=
ip effort=2E=C2=A0 And this is while still up on jacks with the set scre=
w backed right off=2E=C2=A0 I loosened off the shim cover bolts thinking=
 I was too tight but no difference=2E=C2=A0 It doesn=27t feel like it=27=
s binding at any point of the travel=2C it=27s tight lock to lock=2E=C2=A0=
 I waited until the shaft was reassembled before tightening the box atta=
chment bolts so the box would align to the shaft=2C not vice versa=2E=3C=
br /=3E=3Cbr /=3ECould this really all be down to resistance from the 2 =
new bearings in the split shaft (plenty of grease added) and the new fel=
t at the steering wheel=3F=C2=A0 =3Cbr /=3E=3Cbr /=3EAlso should the upp=
er felt be greased/oiled=3F=3Cbr /=3E=3Cbr /=3EThanks=2C=3Cbr /=3E=3Cbr =
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