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1. Build Year or Sale/Title Year? (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 23:18:05 EST; I've just started paying attention to the likelihood that my TR3A (TS67947L) was manufactured in 1960, even though it is currently titled as a 1961. I'm curious to know if most folks refer to their c; /html/triumphs/2004-01/msg00579.html (7,477 bytes)
2. RE: Build Year or Sale/Title Year? (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 20:53:53 -0800; I just go by when it was built - that's something everybody can agree on, since it's traceable and takes the 'guesswork' out of any discussion. Another reason for this is a problem I had a few years; /html/triumphs/2004-01/msg00583.html (8,414 bytes)
3. RE: Build Year or Sale/Title Year? (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 21:45:18 -0800; I think most people use the build date after getting it confirmed. However, I just have to be different (big surprise there !) and I've been calling my car a 59 (since it's registered that way) for; /html/triumphs/2004-01/msg00587.html (8,016 bytes)
4. Re: Build Year or Sale/Title Year? (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:09:12 -0500; Bill, A lot depends on exactly when your car was built. Long ago, manufacturers made a big deal over the fall roll-out of new models. That's not so common now, but there is still a legal convention a; /html/triumphs/2004-01/msg00588.html (8,999 bytes)
5. Re: Build Year or Sale/Title Year? (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 10:00:33 -0500; FWIW, information I have shows that the first TR3A manufactured in CALENDAR YEAR 1960 (January 1 or 2?) is TS65124. As an additional reference point, TS71909L was manufactured on March 28, 1960, and; /html/triumphs/2004-01/msg00589.html (10,320 bytes)
6. Re: Build Year or Sale/Title Year? (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:18:17 -0600; Something else to keep in mind. In the 50's and 60's, some states issued titles based on the date of sale, NOT the date of manufacture. Remember that until it is sold, a "new" vehicle has a manufactu; /html/triumphs/2004-01/msg00590.html (10,299 bytes)
7. Re: Build Year or Sale/Title Year? (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 07:53:39 -0800; Yes, and my TR4 built in 1964, but DMV has it as a '66, when it was first Tim; /html/triumphs/2004-01/msg00591.html (8,111 bytes)
8. Re: Build Year or Sale/Title Year? (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 10:34:53 -0700; Except in cases where states allow "year-of-manufacture" plates to be used. In some states (e.g. AZ) not all years had plates produced and some years colors look better with the car. When I got the T; /html/triumphs/2004-01/msg00592.html (8,968 bytes)
9. Re: Build Year or Sale/Title Year? (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:22:22 -0800; I'm the CALENDAR YEAR 1960 (January 1 or 2?) is TS65124. As an additional reference point, TS71909L was manufactured on March 28, 1960, and TS73624L was manufactured on April 15, 1960. So your TS679; /html/triumphs/2004-01/msg00593.html (10,006 bytes)
10. Re: Build Year or Sale/Title Year? (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:08:09 -0500; My TR3A TS76120L is billed as a 1961 and I believe it was built then. The TR4 was built in 62, but sold in 63. I call it a 62. To me it's just clearer to use the build date - although my registratio; /html/triumphs/2004-01/msg00594.html (9,267 bytes)
11. RE: Build Year or Sale/Title Year? (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:25:59 -0800; I've found that unless it's a serious car nut making conversation, most people's eyes tend to glaze over at that point ... I also checked this morning, a 2002 California title has only "year model"; /html/triumphs/2004-01/msg00596.html (8,838 bytes)
12. Re: Build Year or Sale/Title Year? (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:30:37 -0500; First TR3A manufactured in CALENDAR YEAR 1959: TS41630 First TR3A manufactured in CALENDAR YEAR 1960: TS65124. Could be that TS57201L was built late enough in the 1959 calendar year to originally hav; /html/triumphs/2004-01/msg00597.html (8,789 bytes)
13. RE: Build Year or Sale/Title Year? (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 15:32:20 -0500; TS65107L was recorded as rolling off the line on New Years Eve '59 (sounds like probably in the am?) I always refer to it as a '59, sounds better... Dave Willner Stroudsburg, PA 1959 TR3A Apple Green; /html/triumphs/2004-01/msg00598.html (9,380 bytes)
14. Re: Build Year or Sale/Title Year? (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:29:10 -0800; -- Original Message -- originally have been considered an "early 1960" model? Thanks Andy, that pretty much confirms my '61 is a '59. I seem to recall from a previous thread where people were listing; /html/triumphs/2004-01/msg00599.html (9,802 bytes)
15. Re: Build Year or Sale/Title Year? (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 18:06:17 -0800; Two items to further the discussion: My understanding, at least during the TR4/4A/250 era is that factory changeovers for the new model year occurred in August. The last 1967 TR4A was built in August; /html/triumphs/2004-01/msg00608.html (8,811 bytes)
16. re: Build Year or Sale/Title Year? (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:05:47 -0500; but it is titled as a 1963. I explained that to the licensing people here, and getting the title adjusted to show 1960 wasn't worth the hassle IMHO. I refer to my TR3A as a 1960 (to everyone but the; /html/triumphs/2004-01/msg00613.html (8,583 bytes)
17. Re: Build Year or Sale/Title Year? (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 07:33:34 EST; Thanks to everyone for the terrific feedback and guidance on this. It seems most people call 'em for when they're built rather than when they're adopted. All I know for sure is that I get such a kick; /html/triumphs/2004-01/msg00618.html (7,929 bytes)
18. Re: Build Year or Sale/Title Year? (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 07:26:31 -0800; As I recall the habit of American manufacturers in the sixties was to begin selling the new model year in the fall of the prior year. Perhaps Triumph followed this logic. Thus a 1960 model car may ha; /html/triumphs/2004-01/msg00630.html (8,206 bytes)
19. Re: Build Year or Sale/Title Year? (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:58:40 -0500; == Still is the practice, the new models start hitting the showrooms in late Sept/Oct, but the paper work states it's a 2004 model car and not a 2003. "FT"; /html/triumphs/2004-01/msg00641.html (8,573 bytes)
20. Re: Build Year or Sale/Title Year? (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 08:49:41 -0000; I hope so. Each car that left the factory for the States had an original signed copy (by one Ian Wright) of a Certificate of Origin attesting to the fact that *it had been manufactured* though the bu; /html/triumphs/2004-01/msg00653.html (9,036 bytes)

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