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1. The Impossible Dream? (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 19:24:37 +0000; Dear All, I am currently browsing through a catalogue of all sorts of chemical treatments designed for the classic car owner, but the one treatment I think we all want doesn't appear. *Is* there any; /html/triumphs/2002-11/msg00639.html (7,918 bytes)
2. RE: The Impossible Dream? (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 12:01:32 -0800; Dream farther Mike, How about something that converts rust back to steel! Ken St.John '74 Spitfire 1500 "Lil Red" '60 TR3A "Big Red" (or maybe Rusty?) '65 Spitfire Mk II project "Ol Blue" Dear All, I; /html/triumphs/2002-11/msg00640.html (8,326 bytes)
3. Re: The Impossible Dream? (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 20:16:02 +0000; I suppose I was trying to be realistic! Seriously, though, the idea of liquefying rust must be more feasible than reconverting it to smooth, perfectly-machined steel - mustn't it? ATB -- Mike Ellie -; /html/triumphs/2002-11/msg00641.html (8,357 bytes)
4. Re: The Impossible Dream? (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 16:01:45 -0500; Iron oxide (rust) is like any other metal oxide. It is usually the most stable form of any metal and, since the atmosphere is about 20% oxygen, it forms easily. (Metal nitrides form at higher tempera; /html/triumphs/2002-11/msg00642.html (8,830 bytes)
5. Re: The Impossible Dream? (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 07:17:50 +0000; Thanks very much indeed. Do these acids not react with the steel as well? Yes, I have come across these, and they are very useful for areas which are out of sight; less so for external bodywork, as t; /html/triumphs/2002-11/msg00654.html (9,904 bytes)
6. Re: The Impossible Dream? (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 14:02:59 +0100; Yes , there is .........it's called sand .You spray it on with a sand-blaster and wipe off what's left with a clean dry rag . Sorry , don't know the formula <g>.no ChemEng degree Cheers , Mike /// tr; /html/triumphs/2002-11/msg00658.html (8,026 bytes)
7. RE: The Impossible Dream? (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 08:02:01 -0800; Phosphoric acid reacts very slowly with the base steel, it won't do any damage as long as it's removed in a reasonable length of time (a day or so). Hydrochloric attacks a bit faster, but still with; /html/triumphs/2002-11/msg00672.html (9,396 bytes)
8. Re: The Impossible Dream? (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 08:47:35 +0000; That sounds fine. I can understand that! Of course - hence my request for a product that simply dissolves the rust away, rather than one that converts it to an inert compound. If you have to sand awa; /html/triumphs/2002-11/msg00694.html (10,944 bytes)
9. Re: The Impossible Dream? (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 08:49:15 +0000; I think you'll find that the chemical formula is Si. And that it does have an effect on steel as well as on rust... <g> ATB -- Mike Ellie - 1963 White Herald 1200 Convertible GA125624 CV Connie - 196; /html/triumphs/2002-11/msg00695.html (8,999 bytes)
10. Re: The Impossible Dream? (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 10:56:10 -0000 gALB1aq2006758; -- Original Message -- From Michael Hargreave Mawson <OC at 46thFoot.com> SiO2 actually.... <bigger g> Cheers, Bill (with a little help from Karen, BSc (Hons), Chemistry), -- Rarebits4classics ......; /html/triumphs/2002-11/msg00698.html (8,680 bytes)
11. Re: The Impossible Dream? (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 12:43:20 +0000; Damn. I even meant to type that, but my fingers don't always obey my brain until after the second cup of coffee in the mornings... ATB -- Mike Ellie - 1963 White Herald 1200 Convertible GA125624 CV C; /html/triumphs/2002-11/msg00699.html (9,036 bytes)
12. Re: The Impossible Dream? (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 15:00:58 +0100; Mike , Do you mean that the SiO2- man is still around in the morning ? Cheers , Mike . /// triumphs@autox.team.net mailing list /// or try http://www.team.net/cgi-bin/majorcool /// Archives at http:; /html/triumphs/2002-11/msg00703.html (8,204 bytes)
13. Re: The Impossible Dream? (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 11:12:30 EST; SiO2 actually.... <bigger g> Cheers, Bill (with a little help from Karen, BSc (Hons), Chemistry), Don't forget N2, O2, CO2, CO and all the other stuff that is in regular compressed air. Harold /// t; /html/triumphs/2002-11/msg00712.html (8,136 bytes)
14. RE: The Impossible Dream? (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 11:31:49 -0800; There is an important (to me) distinction though, the converter will penetrate into the pits and convert the rust at the bottom. Thus you don't have to remove as much metal to wind up with a rust-fr; /html/triumphs/2002-11/msg00723.html (8,592 bytes)
15. Re: The Impossible Dream? (score: 1): Author: Unknown; Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 20:36:23 +0000; Pre-zackly! ATB -- Mike Ellie - 1963 White Herald 1200 Convertible GA125624 CV Connie - 1968 Conifer Herald 1200 Saloon GA237511 DL Carly - 1977 Inca Yellow Spitfire 1500 FM105671 /// triumphs@autox.; /html/triumphs/2002-11/msg00728.html (8,613 bytes)

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