Lou has nailed the problem. In my opinion, my second gear jumping is minor
enough to not have to find a new gearbox, tailshaft, etc. We are going to focus
on the detent balls and springs, mainshaft spacers, and bronze bushings first.
This is a new OD unit still in the Laycock box and my gearbox shows very little
wear and tear. I will keep you posted. Thanks Brent
Louis & Laila wrote:
> Howdy everyone
>
> As I understand Brent's problem, he has a series 2 crashbox that is O/D. It
> has problems staying in gear, therefore he wants to replace it. He would
> like to wave a magic wand and have the problem go away, (I try this myself,
> most recently with my strombergs) but since this has failed to produce
> results, and he must spend some cash and effort, he would like to upgrade to
> a Fully Synchro trans, for better gear ratios, less whine, and shifting
> without coming to a complete stop.
> My suggestion, was that he find a complete fully synchromesh O/D trans with
> bad O/D unit and swap his good O/D unit and this would make it all work.
> This is often not possible because, though O/D units are readily available,
> The TAILSHAFT from the transmission is rare. Finding a transmission with the
> O/D unit trashed is as difficult as finding the whole setup in good
> condition!
>
> Here is the sticky part. I also suggested that Brent take his tailshaft out
> of the bad trans, and install it in the fully-synchromesh transmission. This
> has the benefit of providing a tailshaft with some meat since the later
> series actually twist off under torque, I have seen it.
>
> Dave Green is in fact correct, the shafts are different in the first gear
> area. For some reson, Rootes made the parts of te transmission
> non-interchangeable when they went to all synchro. That is why, At first
> glance, this seems impossible.However, the shaft can be taken to a
> machinist, and made to work. I have never done it myself, but in one of the
> SAOC Horns, there is detailed instructions on how to do it, part of the
> "Alec's Mini Restoration" series. He said, the cost of machine work was
> around 40 Pounds, which likens to $75 here. He has driven the car around to
> prove it. I made a copy of it for Jarrid Gross, and have since been unable
> to locate my own. So, if you want to try this method, contact Jarrid, and
> have him make you a copy of my copy, or find someone who has a set of SAOC
> Horns that include issues from 1977 up to 1993, though I think it was issue
> #81-#94.
>
> But once again, this is one of those "modifacations" that are best left to
> people who have some experience, or people who have a lot of time one their
> hands! Considering the cost and effort, it might be best to just find what
> you need already to go. Kind of like the time I spent $12, 3 hours, welding
> rod, and some odd watts of electricity trying to weld up a thermostat
> housing so I wouldn't have to buy one from Rick at SS for the outrageous
> price of $17.00, though in the end, that is what I did. Lou
> ----- Original Message -----
> > Brent,
> > I am confused as to your situation and Lou's reply. Do you now have an
> OD
> > and a nonsyncro Series II transmission? Do you want to install the OD to
> a
> > full syncro Series V?
> >
> > If that is the case then that is exactly what I am considering and I
> recently
> > asked the list if it can be done. Jarrid Gross and Dave Green said it
> does
> > not work:
> >
> > >>>Subj: RE: OD Mainshaft Question
> > From: JGross@econolite.com (Jarrid Gross)
> >
> > No they are not the same, but here tell the early ones
> > CAN be modified for use in the all sync box.
> >
> > Lou Meyers?
> > ---
> > Subj: Re: OD Mainshaft Question
> > From: alpdavegre@msn.com (David Green)
> > Rob,
> >
> > I don't think that is possible. The main shafts are different in the first
> > gear area.
> > Dave Green>>>
> > ----
> >
> > Rob Carpenter
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