To further Lou's comments, how many different tailshafts did Rootes make to fit
their gear assemblies? I found out Wednesday that every time their as a change
in
engines, eg horsepower, torque, etc. a different gearing was utilized and thus
the
shortage of new gears and parts available. I know I own two tailshafts. Brent
Brent Kasl wrote:
> Lou has nailed the problem. In my opinion, my second gear jumping is minor
> enough to not have to find a new gearbox, tailshaft, etc. We are going to
>focus
> on the detent balls and springs, mainshaft spacers, and bronze bushings first.
> This is a new OD unit still in the Laycock box and my gearbox shows very
>little
> wear and tear. I will keep you posted. Thanks Brent
>
> Louis & Laila wrote:
>
> > Howdy everyone
> >
> > As I understand Brent's problem, he has a series 2 crashbox that is O/D. It
> > has problems staying in gear, therefore he wants to replace it. He would
> > like to wave a magic wand and have the problem go away, (I try this myself,
> > most recently with my strombergs) but since this has failed to produce
> > results, and he must spend some cash and effort, he would like to upgrade to
> > a Fully Synchro trans, for better gear ratios, less whine, and shifting
> > without coming to a complete stop.
> > My suggestion, was that he find a complete fully synchromesh O/D trans with
> > bad O/D unit and swap his good O/D unit and this would make it all work.
> > This is often not possible because, though O/D units are readily available,
> > The TAILSHAFT from the transmission is rare. Finding a transmission with the
> > O/D unit trashed is as difficult as finding the whole setup in good
> > condition!
> >
> > Here is the sticky part. I also suggested that Brent take his tailshaft out
> > of the bad trans, and install it in the fully-synchromesh transmission. This
> > has the benefit of providing a tailshaft with some meat since the later
> > series actually twist off under torque, I have seen it.
> >
> > Dave Green is in fact correct, the shafts are different in the first gear
> > area. For some reson, Rootes made the parts of te transmission
> > non-interchangeable when they went to all synchro. That is why, At first
> > glance, this seems impossible.However, the shaft can be taken to a
> > machinist, and made to work. I have never done it myself, but in one of the
> > SAOC Horns, there is detailed instructions on how to do it, part of the
> > "Alec's Mini Restoration" series. He said, the cost of machine work was
> > around 40 Pounds, which likens to $75 here. He has driven the car around to
> > prove it. I made a copy of it for Jarrid Gross, and have since been unable
> > to locate my own. So, if you want to try this method, contact Jarrid, and
> > have him make you a copy of my copy, or find someone who has a set of SAOC
> > Horns that include issues from 1977 up to 1993, though I think it was issue
> > #81-#94.
> >
> > But once again, this is one of those "modifacations" that are best left to
> > people who have some experience, or people who have a lot of time one their
> > hands! Considering the cost and effort, it might be best to just find what
> > you need already to go. Kind of like the time I spent $12, 3 hours, welding
> > rod, and some odd watts of electricity trying to weld up a thermostat
> > housing so I wouldn't have to buy one from Rick at SS for the outrageous
> > price of $17.00, though in the end, that is what I did. Lou
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > Brent,
> > > I am confused as to your situation and Lou's reply. Do you now have an
> > OD
> > > and a nonsyncro Series II transmission? Do you want to install the OD to
> > a
> > > full syncro Series V?
> > >
> > > If that is the case then that is exactly what I am considering and I
> > recently
> > > asked the list if it can be done. Jarrid Gross and Dave Green said it
> > does
> > > not work:
> > >
> > > >>>Subj: RE: OD Mainshaft Question
> > > From: JGross@econolite.com (Jarrid Gross)
> > >
> > > No they are not the same, but here tell the early ones
> > > CAN be modified for use in the all sync box.
> > >
> > > Lou Meyers?
> > > ---
> > > Subj: Re: OD Mainshaft Question
> > > From: alpdavegre@msn.com (David Green)
> > > Rob,
> > >
> > > I don't think that is possible. The main shafts are different in the first
> > > gear area.
> > > Dave Green>>>
> > > ----
> > >
> > > Rob Carpenter
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