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Re: 91 octane gas

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Subject: Re: 91 octane gas
From: "Patrick" <pjsimm@inreach.com>
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 22:02:10 -0700
I have noticed a 3 mpg increase in my Toyota pickup. Colud this be from the
lack of MTBE in the fuel. I have been using 76 athe station has a MTBE free
banner. The only other thing that changed in I switched to the Valvoline
high milage oil for the last two changes. I find it hard to believe that the
oil can make that big of a difference.

Patrick
#5 D-Stock

Neon AC ......
The "R" is on back order

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Creasy" <black94pgt@pacbell.net>
To: <mrclem@telocity.com>; "Lawrence Lane" <firstcard@hotmail.com>; "Giles
Douglas" <giles@vy.com>; <Elmoizme@aol.com>; <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: 91 octane gas


> you have EFI on both cars right?  then the computer will just retard the
> spark to prevent detonation.  might reduce peak HP a little.
>
> we have a lot of cubes and torque, so it hurts us less than a high
revving,
> low displacement car.  in my probe the octane makes a big difference in
> power above 4K.
>
> -james
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael R. Clements <mrclem@telocity.com>
> To: Lawrence Lane <firstcard@hotmail.com>; Giles Douglas <giles@vy.com>;
> <Elmoizme@aol.com>; <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 8:30 PM
> Subject: RE: 91 octane gas
>
>
> > Unfortunately, that is "most cars" except for two of my cars which
> "require"
> > 92 octane according to the owners manual (one is a Lexus GS430, the
other
> is a
> > 4.6L Cobra powered Panoz). Sounds like somewhere between (b) and (c) for
> these
> > cars.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lawrence Lane [mailto:firstcard@hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 19:21
> > To: mrclem@telocity.com; Giles Douglas; Elmoizme@aol.com;
> > ba-autox@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: 91 octane gas
> >
> >
> > I think it would be more of a "barely noticeable."  Most if not all cars
> > that use Premium have a suggested requirement of 91 or more.
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael R. Clements" <mrclem@telocity.com>
> > To: "Giles Douglas" <giles@vy.com>; <Elmoizme@aol.com>;
> > <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 7:06 PM
> > Subject: RE: 91 octane gas
> >
> >
> > > Hmmm. . .
> > >
> > > And the effect on efficiency & performance for engines designed for 92
> > octane
> > > is:
> > >
> > > (a) drastic
> > >
> > > (b) significant
> > >
> > > (b) barely noticeable
> > >
> > > (c) nonexistant
> > >
> > > ????
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net
> > > [mailto:owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Giles Douglas
> > > Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 18:49
> > > To: Elmoizme@aol.com; ba-autox@autox.team.net
> > > Subject: RE: 91 octane gas
> > >
> > >
> > > its gas - mtbe + ethanol = lower octane rating.
> > >
> > > I'm afraid that all the major gas stations will switch over to 91 in
the
> > > next few weeks. Some of them may even sell 88.5 instead of 89 in the
> > > meantime.
> > >
> > > Even the ones that are still labelled 92 are likely selling 91.
> > >
> > > Giles
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net
> > > [mailto:owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Elmoizme@aol.com
> > > Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 6:18 PM
> > > To: ba-autox@autox.team.net
> > > Subject: Re: 91 octane gas
> > >
> > >
> > > I only noticed 91 at 76 stations for a few weeks now. Ever since I
have
> > been
> > > going only to Chevron.
> > >
> > > I thought I heard somewhere that because they are adding more ethanol,
> it
> > > lowers the  octane rating. Someone care to comment?
> > >
> > > Elton
> > > SM #68

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