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Re: brakes

To: "William Schairer" <wschaibe@ucsd.edu>, <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: brakes
From: "datsunmike" <datsunmike@nyc.rr.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 06:46:32 -0400
Did you bench bleed the master before putting it on?

Mike

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William Schairer" <wschaibe@ucsd.edu>
To: <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 11:22 PM
Subject: brakes


> -- 
> So I have been doing a lot of reading of datsun email but this is my 
> first request for help.
> 
> I had my roadster up on jackstands to replace the slave cylinder so I 
> decided I would go ahead replace the master cylinder, since the slave 
> cylinder was so easy.
> 
> I was also going to replace the flexible brake lines while I was at 
> it.  I couldn't loosen a couple and couldn't really figure out how to 
> get them off anyway so I decided to let that job wait for another 
> day.  I did have to undo a couple lines on the front left wheel in 
> order to get some vice grips on the bleeder valve that was stuck. 
> When I put it all back together I couldn't seem to keep one line from 
> leaking where it tied into the brake cylinder.  It finally seemed to 
> stop leaking so I set forth on the task of bleeding the system.
> 
> First I bled the new master cylinder.  Then I bled rear right, rear 
> left, front right and finally front left.  When all done the pedal 
> goes to the floor and the brake failure light comes on.  The rear 
> brakes lock up but nothing up front.  More bleeding...still no brakes 
> up front.
> 
> At this point I decided the new master cylinder wasn't functioning 
> properly (a friend of mine who is a power wagon nut had told me he 
> has problems with new parts far too frequently).  So, I took out the 
> new master cylinder, cleaned up the old one and reinstalled it. 
> Re-bled everything.  Still no front brakes.  Checked Chiltons trouble 
> shooting sections and it says one reason the brake light will glow is 
> due to "failure to center combination valve or proportioning valve." 
> I figure I have solved my problem because I never "centered" anything.
> 
> Go to the brake section and it says nothing about centering the 
> proportioning valve and in fact says that it can't be adjusted.  If 
> it isn't working it has to be replaced.  I called my power wagon 
> friend and he has no idea except that I must have air trapped in the 
> system somewhere.  So I bleed again.  Still nothing up front.
> 
> So what happened?  Did I mess something up or did I just get lucky 
> that they failed on the stands instead of on the freeway?  I 
> desperately want to get this thing going again as it has already been 
> down a couple months with a blown head gasket which I think I finally 
> got fixed.  Coolant has been staying put for the first time since I 
> got the car and the temperature seems to holding ok.  Want to get the 
> brakes working so I can make the Palomar run.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Bill
> 70 1600
> san diego

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