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I'm in. I'll bring two cars two drivers.=20
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From: Bill Babcock=20
To: Chasgee@aol.com=20
Cc: fot@autox.team.net=20
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 6:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Our weekend at the Glen
As Jeff pointed out, it's Labor Day, not Memorial day. I get those two =
confused all the time.=20
Portland International Raceway is an interesting track from a =
technical standpoint, and the CRC is a good race. The track was repaved =
last year and some corners were changed a bit. You won't find better =
pavement anywhere. It's easy to run large-scale races there.=20
PIR is right on the MAX line (rapid transit trains), so significant =
others are not stuck at the track--they can go into Portland with =
minimal effort, and Portland is one of the most accessible cities in the =
US. Very compact--you can walk anywhere in downtown. Having been pretty =
much all over the world and especially all over North America I assert =
that Portland has restaurants, street food, taverns and specialty food =
(like artiisan bread, great bakeries, etc) to rival or surpass any city, =
including places like Paris, New York City and San Francisco. You simply =
can't find better beer, and our Pinot's stack up to the best.=20
SOVREN is very strict about racing classifications for it's members, =
but more flexible for outsiders. I'm sure I can work with them to ensure =
that anyone that wants to come can race. I'm also pretty sure I can get =
an all-triumph race. The CRC has plenty of track time--it runs Friday =
through Monday with Thursday usually available as an inexpensive test =
and tune day through the Lotus Club. You can wear yourself and your car =
out at the CRC.=20
The All British Field Meet runs the same weekend in the same venue =
(yes, there are sometimes some space problems but we can overflow to the =
Pro Pits which are nicer for camping anyway). They have car shows, =
autojumbles, and a big vendor area. It's a well-attended show that draws =
from car clubs all over the coast. There is a short on-track autocross =
that's kind of a PIA, but I'd like to set up a better and longer running =
autocross in the propit area--we've done that before.=20
I think PIR is kind of ideal as a west coast venue for the Kastner =
Cup. Seattle (Pacific Raceways) is too far from other facilities--it's =
in Kent, Washington--and the major race is the Northwest Historics, =
which is a pretty crowded event. The Portland Historics is an HMSA =
event, and they're hard to work with on car classifications. Thunderhill =
is a wonderful track, but it's east of nowhere. Sears (Infinion) is =
fabulous and wonderful Sonoma is close by, but the only likely event is =
the CSRG Charity Challenge and it's often filled. CSRG is an excellent =
organization, but they might be a bit tough on car classification. I'm =
not sure any of the SCCA cars would be allowed to run. Laguna is too =
restricted--they don't have many dates anymore. We'd all need sand =
filters for Willows.=20
The only limitation at PIR is noise--you'd all need mufflers.
It's not too early to start planning. How do we get this going?=20
On Sep 9, 2008, at 8:35 PM, Chasgee@aol.com wrote:
Bill,
Funny you should mention those two venues, because I was discussing =
this with some So Cal brethren and we came to the same conclusions. It =
is the West coast's turn again and I think Portland would be fantastic. =
Let me know if I can help organize this.
Chuck Gee
Blacksmith Racing
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Babcock <Billb@bnj.com>
To: Henry Frye <henry@henryfrye.com>
Cc: fot@autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 11:55 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] Our weekend at the Glen
I'm thinking it's time for the left coast. Maybe Thunderhill? It's a =
hell of a track, though the surrounding facilities suck. Portland would =
be great, the Columbia River Classic is the weekend before this SVRA =
race (Memorial day weekend), and it's a high-track time event. Most =
folks are sick of racing by the time the Monday races roll around. it =
also encompasses the All British Field Meet which a lot of Triumph folks =
attend as well. =20
I know I could get SOVREN to roll out the red carpet for FOT since I =
helped to give this race a boost a few years ago. The Saturday at-track =
party is legenday, an opportunity to get out your vintage duds, and I =
can commit to a pretty cool FOT party at Casa Babcock.=20
On Sep 9, 2008, at 10:38 AM, Henry Frye wrote:
We came, we raced, we marked our territory with our racecars. Some =
more
than others.
We hung out with TS 1 LO, parked under thI'm thinking it's time =
for the left coast. e tent with the beer. What were
they thinking. Anything could have happened. Nothing happened... I
think.
We shared some special moments remembering uncle jack.
Many of us were able to put faces with familiar names. Before I =
just
knew the names. Now I have faces in my brain so I will forget all =
your
names. Sorry, that's just how it works.
My car rose to the occasion. First, somehow it became the poster =
child
for the event, landing on the front page of the local daily =
newspaper on
Saturday.=20
Then it drove into the paddock hemorrhaging oil from every orifice =
after
the All Triumph Race, but I achieved a few lofty personal goals in =
the
process.=20
Then on the start of the Group 3 race my car pulled me down the =
inside
line to pass a bunch of guys in turn one, then I passed the =
start/finish
line in third overall a couple times. Running way up there in a =
SVRA
feature race is something I never thought I would do. Then the =
track got
a little slick from rain and I backed off a bit, I will never be a =
brave
rain driver. Too much to lose, nothing to gain. Still finished =
well, no
complaints there.
There was less attrition than I expected over the course of the =
weekend,
at least until Sunday. It was nice to spend time with our friends
sitting on chairs with a beer in hand, not under cars requesting
wrenches and sockets.=20
Many big names in our sport were there, both past and present, and
getting face time with them was a real treat.=20
Congrats to Tony Garmey on winning the Kastner Cup. This was the =
third
time I have seen the TR250K on track, it was always fast. This =
weekend
it was amazing. During Kas' presentation of the cup, he said he =
has not
seen the car go as fast since he ran it at Sebring in '68. He then
issued a manufacturers recall notice, but I think Tony is going to =
take
his chances!
Congrats to Larry Young for the Bill Ames Award, well deserved.=20
The Western PA Triumph gang was there in force, as was a big =
contingent
of New England Triumph folks. Bob Lang brought Khartu, his TR6
autocrosser for the folks to enjoy. Dave Hutchinson drove his =
pristine
Italia. If I continue to try to mention all the special cars that =
came
out to support the event I would miss several, I don't want to do =
that.
Many thanks to Jack Woehrle and the rest of SVRA for treating us =
Triumph
folks better than we deserved. Jack was never too far from the =
Triumph
ghetto, and made sure we got what we needed.
So, it was a great weekend, sorry if you missed it... Where to =
next
year?
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<A title=3DBillb@bnj.com href=3D"mailto:Billb@bnj.com";>Bill =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3DChasgee@aol.com=20
href=3D"mailto:Chasgee@aol.com";>Chasgee@aol.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 10, =
2008 6:58=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Fot] Our weekend =
at the=20
Glen</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>As Jeff pointed out, it's Labor Day, not Memorial day. =
I get=20
those two confused all the time.
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Portland International Raceway is an interesting track from a =
technical=20
standpoint, and the CRC is a good race. The track was repaved last =
year and=20
some corners were changed a bit. You won't find better pavement=20
anywhere. It's easy to run large-scale races there. </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>PIR is right on the MAX line (rapid transit trains), so =
significant=20
others are not stuck at the track--they can go into Portland with =
minimal=20
effort, and Portland is one of the most accessible cities in the US. =
Very=20
compact--you can walk anywhere in downtown. Having been pretty much =
all over=20
the world and especially all over North America I assert that Portland =
has=20
restaurants, street food, taverns and specialty food (like artiisan =
bread,=20
great bakeries, etc) to rival or surpass any city, including places =
like=20
Paris, New York City and San Francisco. You simply can't find better =
beer, and=20
our Pinot's stack up to the best. </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>SOVREN is very strict about racing classifications for it's =
members, but=20
more flexible for outsiders. I'm sure I can work with them to ensure =
that=20
anyone that wants to come can race. I'm also pretty sure I can get an=20
all-triumph race. The CRC has plenty of track time--it runs Friday =
through=20
Monday with Thursday usually available as an inexpensive test and tune =
day=20
through the Lotus Club. You can wear yourself and your car out at the=20
CRC. </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>The All British Field Meet runs the same weekend in the same =
venue (yes,=20
there are sometimes some space problems but we can overflow to the Pro =
Pits=20
which are nicer for camping anyway). They have car shows, autojumbles, =
and a=20
big vendor area. It's a well-attended show that draws from car clubs =
all over=20
the coast. There is a short on-track autocross that's kind of a PIA, =
but I'd=20
like to set up a better and longer running autocross in the propit =
area--we've=20
done that before. </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I think PIR is kind of ideal as a west coast venue for the =
Kastner Cup.=20
Seattle (Pacific Raceways) is too far from other facilities--it's in =
Kent,=20
Washington--and the major race is the Northwest Historics, which is a =
pretty=20
crowded event. The Portland Historics is an HMSA event, and they're =
hard to=20
work with on car classifications. Thunderhill is a wonderful track, =
but it's=20
east of nowhere. Sears (Infinion) is fabulous and wonderful Sonoma is =
close=20
by, but the only likely event is the CSRG Charity Challenge and it's =
often=20
filled. CSRG is an excellent organization, but they might be a bit =
tough on=20
car classification. I'm not sure any of the SCCA cars would be allowed =
to run.=20
Laguna is too restricted--they don't have many dates anymore. We'd all =
need=20
sand filters for Willows. </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>The only limitation at PIR is noise--you'd all need =
mufflers.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>It's not too early to start planning. How do we get this=20
going? </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR>
<DIV>
<DIV>On Sep 9, 2008, at 8:35 PM, <A=20
href=3D"mailto:Chasgee@aol.com";>Chasgee@aol.com</A> wrote:</DIV><BR=20
class=3DApple-interchange-newline>
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"><WBR>Bill,<BR><BR>Funny you should mention =
those two=20
venues, because I was discussing this with some So Cal brethren and =
we came=20
to the same conclusions. It is the West coast's turn again and =
I think=20
Portland would be fantastic. Let me know if I can help =
organize=20
this.<BR><BR>Chuck Gee<BR>Blacksmith =
Racing<BR><BR><BR><BR>-----Original=20
Message-----<BR>From: Bill Babcock <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:Billb@bnj.com";>Billb@bnj.com</A>><BR>To: Henry =
Frye <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:henry@henryfrye.com";>henry@henryfrye.com</A>><BR>Cc: =
<A=20
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</A><BR>Sent: =
Tue, 9 Sep=20
2008 11:55 am<BR>Subject: Re: [Fot] Our weekend at the Glen<BR><BR>
<DIV id=3DAOLMsgPart_3_0929c2c4-e994-49ea-b6e6-a0f51d20d9bb>I'm =
thinking it's=20
time for the left coast. Maybe Thunderhill? It's a hell of a track, =
though=20
the surrounding facilities suck. Portland would be great, the =
Columbia River=20
Classic is the weekend before this SVRA race (Memorial day weekend), =
and=20
it's a high-track time event. Most folks are sick of racing by the =
time the=20
Monday races roll around. it also encompasses the All British Field =
Meet=20
which a lot of Triumph folks attend as well. =20
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I know I could get SOVREN to roll out the red carpet for FOT =
since I=20
helped to give this race a boost a few years ago. The Saturday =
at-track=20
party is legenday, an opportunity to get out your vintage duds, and =
I can=20
commit to a pretty cool FOT party at Casa Babcock. <BR>
<DIV>
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<DIV>On Sep 9, 2008, at 10:38 AM, Henry Frye wrote:</DIV><BR=20
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<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">
<DIV>We came, we raced, we marked our territory with our racecars. =
Some=20
more<BR>than others.<BR><BR>We hung out with TS 1 LO, parked under =
thI'm=20
thinking it's time for the left coast. e tent with the beer. What=20
were<BR>they thinking. Anything could have happened. Nothing =
happened...=20
I<BR>think.<BR><BR>We shared some special moments remembering =
uncle=20
jack.<BR><BR>Many of us were able to put faces with familiar =
names. Before=20
I just<BR>knew the names. Now I have faces in my brain so I will =
forget=20
all your<BR>names. Sorry, that's just how it works.<BR><BR>My car =
rose to=20
the occasion. First, somehow it became the poster child<BR>for the =
event,=20
landing on the front page of the local daily newspaper =
on<BR>Saturday.=20
<BR><BR>Then it drove into the paddock hemorrhaging oil from every =
orifice=20
after<BR>the All Triumph Race, but I achieved a few lofty personal =
goals=20
in the<BR>process. <BR><BR>Then on the start of the Group 3 race =
my car=20
pulled me down the inside<BR>line to pass a bunch of guys in turn =
one,=20
then I passed the start/finish<BR>line in third overall a couple =
times.=20
Running way up there in a SVRA<BR>feature race is something I =
never=20
thought I would do. Then the track got<BR>a little slick from rain =
and I=20
backed off a bit, I will never be a brave<BR>rain driver. Too much =
to=20
lose, nothing to gain. Still finished well, no<BR>complaints=20
there.<BR><BR>There was less attrition than I expected over the =
course of=20
the weekend,<BR>at least until Sunday. It was nice to spend time =
with our=20
friends<BR>sitting on chairs with a beer in hand, not under cars=20
requesting<BR>wrenches and sockets. <BR><BR>Many big names in our =
sport=20
were there, both past and present, and<BR>getting face time with =
them was=20
a real treat. <BR><BR>Congrats to Tony Garmey on winning the =
Kastner Cup.=20
This was the third<BR>time I have seen the TR250K on track, it was =
always=20
fast. This weekend<BR>it was amazing. During Kas' presentation of =
the cup,=20
he said he has not<BR>seen the car go as fast since he ran it at =
Sebring=20
in '68. He then<BR>issued a manufacturers recall notice, but I =
think Tony=20
is going to take<BR>his chances!<BR><BR>Congrats to Larry Young =
for the=20
Bill Ames Award, well deserved. <BR><BR>The Western PA Triumph =
gang was=20
there in force, as was a big contingent<BR>of New England Triumph =
folks.=20
Bob Lang brought Khartu, his TR6<BR>autocrosser for the folks to =
enjoy.=20
Dave Hutchinson drove his pristine<BR>Italia. If I continue to try =
to=20
mention all the special cars that came<BR>out to support the event =
I would=20
miss several, I don't want to do that.<BR><BR>Many thanks to Jack =
Woehrle=20
and the rest of SVRA for treating us Triumph<BR>folks better than =
we=20
deserved. Jack was never too far from the Triumph<BR>ghetto, and =
made sure=20
we got what we needed.<BR><BR>So, it was a great weekend, sorry if =
you=20
missed it... Where to=20
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