15 years ago, at least, I replaced the GT6 gearbox in my racer with a TR6
box. I was breaking a stock trans EVERY race! The new box was a Triumph
piece and carried a 40 pound weight penalty. I declared it to my club and
they were happy to see me on the grid and on the podium. A good solution
all round.
I doubt I could justify a five speed to myself or the scrutineers.
In a message dated 10/12/2012 10:42:13 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
n197tr4@cs.com writes:
Back in the 90s I removed and replaced Ed Ceilley's GT6 gearbox three times
while at Moroso and Sebring in two weekends of racing.
Twice it was in the rain and three inches of water on the ground.
I would vote for 'GEAR BOXES FREE', especially with GT6s
We seem to be doing quite well with our TR3/4 TRANSMISSIONS, or I would
consider one of the Toyota conversions.
If there were any restrictions placed on a major component, among
ourselves, I
would make the engine conform to the old rules. But that is not likely to
happen....and I am OK with that. (I think ours does conform and that's
largely
an economic decision)
Joe Alexander
A. R. E.
645 1st Street
Jesup, Iowa 50648
319.464.4711 (cell)
n197tr4@cs.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Vince G <vangoughv@hotmail.com>
To: Bobby Whitehead <igofaster@att.net>
Cc: FoT Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, Oct 12, 2012 12:11 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] Racing a Triumph
Well said Bobby, I agree 100%.
Once Im through my 3rd triumph gearbox Brutus is getting a T9 which is the
same ratio as the gt6 box just stronger. This is not a performance
advantage,
it's common sense, just as group 44 upgraded the axles on the gt6 in the
day
to for reliability and safety.
Aren't we all unhappy to see our fellow racers leave a race weekend early
due
to mechanical failures. I'd rather have my buddy dicing and even showing
me
up than be racing alone because his car failed for reasons that could have
been prevented.
IMHO
Vince Garrett
#144 GT6+ (BRUTUS)
Have a great weekend everyone!
On 2012-10-12, at 11:23 AM, "Bobby Whitehead" <igofaster@att.net> wrote:
> I think if you want to race these cars you have to love these cars. And,
when
> you mix emotion with the costs, you really have to love the opportunity
to
be at
> speed in these cars.
> The elixir that runs through your soul when the stars aline and you've
really
> hit a peak in matching the driving experience and the connection between
you
and
> your car is toxic.
> Modified in the spirit of vintage racing should be the thought.
> Safety should be the #1 modification the cars have leeway with as far as
> sanctioning rules.
> Reliability modifications should be the #2 modification, modern gearboxes
for
> example.
> Performance should be the last modification that pushes the thought of
variance
> to vintage spirit.
>
> I think all of us want to have fun with the cars and as I begin my third
rebuild
> in 3 years I think I have a grasp of what it takes to try to run
vintage...
> Personally I had my build booklet upfront when I joined CVAR here in
Texas.
The
> car I purchased was built with a Toyota T50 gearbox and that was the way
I
> presented it. CVAR 'allowed' me to run 2-3 events with the idea I would
put
a
> Triumph gearbox in the car. I had what I think most of us agree, Quantum
> Mechanics build me a gearbox which lasted about 2 weekends... I was
warrantied
> with Quantum which I thought was awesome another gearbox with a modified
J
type
> overdrive which also lasted about 4 events... warrantied again by Quantum
with
> exchange I had a TR6 gearbox built with close ratio gear set from
England...
in
> the mean time I put the T50 back in the car and along with about $4000 in
> receipts went back to CVAR and said,,, you know,,, I tried to run like
you
> wanted me to but if you want to to run consistently as a customer, I'm
going
to
> run the T50.... no problem.
> I know the MG guys are having a tough time with 50 year old gearboxes and
their
> sources gone... SOMETHING is going to have to change if these cars are
going
to
> continue to run.
> Personally, I don't see anything wrong with slotted brakes, four caliper
> pistons, roll cages, Hans devices, and other safety or reliability
efforts...
> the racing organizations are businesses at the end of the day... those
who
are
> not flexible in business willing to modify will not survive in any
business
> format... IMHO....
>
> Bobby Whitehead
>
> on the hunt... again.....
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