fot
[Top] [All Lists]

Re: [Fot] Neg. camber on 1964 tr4

To: "Larry Young" <cartravel@pobox.com>, <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Neg. camber on 1964 tr4
From: "Stutzmans" <stutzmans@comcast.net>
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 18:35:08 -0400 s=q20121106; t=1362954909; bh=92A5GZ+aHfse2TjDOoJw5cPfhkSVuKr+XJEXTNae92Y=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=XH4g5VaDjAYQpd14E51LYYPDJ6QGQD0j0Qyg7nIIH5j2CAexyuvlOzr7wEfGgvDcD NLv0+aC7djoRTcwNMvQyCS3C5uGsWW44CzsTxpasVm+OCWaISeDyab3LmYiKwZSOwQ h1IoFnUWc751jrewU3E+l3I3kwPOnzBfSFcu7UONGm/o2YjiUcyZvaYb+1+5MA3H2o IMvlNqAWe614ALvN7FFgd+pMfsnE8bfUX8TGBqdYCRWe6Jj2XWA2iDXIBbNR3s8Qla BsrzIZH7I5sE5F2qP/tZkmGgv7Ai7yIkIh/kOnhbIDIAAK/6pqgp+efW7E4SvXEw3/ 5vXV4+ZXr5wTA==
Delivered-to: mharc@autox.team.net
Delivered-to: fot@autox.team.net
References: <4A37CD413E64BE45A53C530F73023B8B2F7FBCDD@CSMC-EXMB02.calstar.corp><20130309191902.12BD640528@autox.team.net> <513CA9F5.8090209@pobox.com>
Although the manual doesn't say so; I think that when they went to what 
would be the TR6 upper A arms and ball joint and 3 deg. trunnions (CT6345), 
the camber changed to 0 deg. from the TR3 and early TR4 2 deg. positive.
Bruce
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Young" <cartravel@pobox.com>
To: <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Neg. camber on 1964 tr4


> It seems like it would be difficult to get enough change in camber for a 
> TR3/4 by reversing the fulcrum.  The factory spec is +2 degrees, so it 
> takes quite a lot to get to -2.  Lowering helps a little, less than 1/2 
> degree.  If you shorten the upper A arms as many of us have done, you have 
> to remove at least 1/2 inch.  I wrote a short report when I studied the 
> suspension on my TR3 (see 
> http://tildentechnologies.com/downloads/TRsuspension.PDF). There is a neat 
> way to shorten the upper A arms that I discovered from Bob Kramer that 
> does not involve cutting them in two.  I can put up a photo if anyone is 
> interested in it.  The modification is not obvious for organizations that 
> do not permit Heim joints, etc.
> Larry
>
> On 3/9/2013 1:14 PM, Tony Drews wrote:
>> What Richard Good just described for the TR-6 applies to the TR-4 as 
>> well.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> Richard's message if you missed it:
>> "Reversing the upper fulcrum from factory orientation pulls the control 
>> arms in 1/4" and adds about 1.3 degrees negative camber if I remember my 
>> calculations correctly.  You can do it without removing the control arms 
>> from the fulcrum.   Just remove the four bolts holding the fulcrum to the 
>> tower and the two bolts through the ball joint and remove the whole 
>> assembly.  Then hold the fulcrum and spin the control arms 180 degrees 
>> then bolt the whole assembly on the other side of the car.  This keeps 
>> the front control arm in the front but reverses the fulcrum.
>>
>> Preferred camber will depend on the tires.  The Hoosier A6's that I run 
>> for autocross and hillclimb want 3 degrees.  They are 225/45-15 on 7" 
>> rims.  To get that much camber and to keep the tires clear of my 
>> unmodified fenders I reversed the fulcrums and then slotted the bolt 
>> holes to slide them in even further.  I just took the worn out tires off 
>> and the fronts wore fairly even.  The rears were also set at 3 degrees 
>> but wore more on the inside from squatting under power.  I backed it off 
>> to 2 degrees to see how that works out.  Also changed to a slightly 
>> stiffer spring."
>>
>> At 11:22 PM 3/8/2013, Jon Gannaway wrote:
>>> I am preparing a 1964 tr4 to vintage race in California.  I am looking 
>>> for
>>> simple and easy ways to get negative camber  in the car.  Any 
>>> suggestions
>>> would be helpful.
>>>
>>> Jon Gannaway
>>> 831-402-4080
>>>
>>>
>>> Disclaimer: The information in this e-mail transmission, or the 
>>> documents
>>> accompanying this e-mail transmission, may contain confidential health
>>> information that is legally protected by state and federal law, 
>>> including, but
>>> not limited to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act 
>>> of 1996
>>> and related regulations. This information is intended only for the use 
>>> of the
>>> individual or entity to whom this e-mail transmission is addressed. If 
>>> you are
>>> not the intended recipient of this information, or if you are not 
>>> properly
>>> authorized to receive this information, you are hereby notified that any
>>> disclosure, copying, distribution or action taken in reliance on the 
>>> contents
>>> of this e-mail or the attached documents is strictly prohibited. If you 
>>> have
>>> received this information in error, please notify the sender immediately 
>>> by
>>> sending a reply e-mail indicating that you have arranged for the 
>>> deletion of
>>> this e-mail and a destruction of this e-mail and any attached documents.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> fot@autox.team.net
>>>
>>> http://www.fot-racing.com
>>>
>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: 
>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com
>> _______________________________________________
>> fot@autox.team.net
>>
>> http://www.fot-racing.com
>>
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
>> Unsubscribe/Manage: 
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cartravel@pobox.com
> _______________________________________________
> fot@autox.team.net
>
> http://www.fot-racing.com
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
> Unsubscribe/Manage: 
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/stutzmans@comcast.net
_______________________________________________
fot@autox.team.net

http://www.fot-racing.com

Archive: http://www.team.net/archive


<Prev in Thread] Current Thread [Next in Thread>