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To: 'Scott Janzen' <Janzen@REcatalyst.com>, steve <colordog.1@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] cantilever slicks
From: "Barr, Scott" <sbarr@McCarty-Law.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 15:38:33 +0000
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I buy all my tires from John.  He's been a really good source over the year=
s.

Scott B.

From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Beh=
alf Of Scott Janzen
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 10:32 AM
To: steve
Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph
Subject: Re: [Fot] cantilever slicks

just bought a set from him - made for and used only at the run-offs - proba=
bly 2-3 heat cycles.  $85 ea vs $250 new.  For my purposes, good enough.
Thanks!

On Sep 18, 2013, at 11:07 AM, steve wrote:

Call  John Berget Tires  (262) 740-0180
They sell used race tires that have only 1 or 2 races on them.  Cheap.

~Steve


-----Original Message-----

Sent: Sep 18, 2013 7:01 AM
net>>
Subject: Re: [Fot] cantilever slicks

On Tue, 17 Sep 2013, Scott Janzen wrote:

so, I'm planning on breaking out the ex-Schneider-Bond-Wheeler TR4 for a
couple of runs this fall - debating whether I need new tires.  There's
plenty of rubber left on the Goodyear Eagles (23x9x15), but as you might
know, Goodyear doesn't make these anymore and haven't for a few years,
so I think they are 4-5 years old, minimum (no date codes). Should I
soften them up with Formula V (tire softener), or spring for a new set
of Hoosiers?  Not going vintage at this point - with the suspension
setup, the fiberglass flares, etc, I'm going to keep the car as it is.

I don't have any experience with tires like this . . . can I milk them
for a bit longer or have they aged out?

You can get away with traction compound, but you def. won't get optimal
performance from the tires. The other problem is that after you "juice"
the tires, you get only a few laps before they start going off. Or at
least that's my experience.

If you want tires on a budget, try using some cast-off Hoosier R45
compound 23x9.5x15's. The used tires guys usually have some.

regards,
rml
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
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ces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Scott Janzen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 18, 2013 10:32 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> steve<br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] cantilever slicks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">just bought a set from him - made for and used only =
at the run-offs - probably 2-3 heat cycles. &nbsp;$85 ea vs $250 new. &nbsp=
;For my purposes, good enough.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Sep 18, 2013, at 11:07 AM, steve wrote:<o:p></o:p=
></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Call &nbsp;John Berget Tires &nbsp;(262) 740-0180<br=
>
They sell used race tires that have only 1 or 2 races on them. &nbsp;Cheap.=
<br>
<br>
~Steve<br>
<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">From: &quot;Robert M. Lang&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sent: Sep 18, 2013 7:01 AM<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Subject: Re: [Fot] cantilever slicks<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Tue, 17 Sep 2013, Scott Janzen wrote:<o:p></o:p><=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">so, I'm planning on breaking out the ex-Schneider-Bo=
nd-Wheeler TR4 for a
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">couple of runs this fall - debating whether I need n=
ew tires. &nbsp;There's
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">plenty of rubber left on the Goodyear Eagles (23x9x1=
5), but as you might
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">know, Goodyear doesn't make these anymore and haven'=
t for a few years,
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">so I think they are 4-5 years old, minimum (no date =
codes). Should I
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">soften them up with Formula V (tire softener), or sp=
ring for a new set
<o:p></o:p></p>
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</blockquote>
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<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">of Hoosiers? &nbsp;Not going vintage at this point -=
 with the suspension
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">setup, the fiberglass flares, etc, I'm going to keep=
 the car as it is.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I don't have any experience with tires like this . .=
 . can I milk them
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">for a bit longer or have they aged out?<o:p></o:p></=
p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">You can get away with traction compound, but you def=
. won't get optimal
<o:p></o:p></p>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">performance from the tires. The other problem is tha=
t after you &quot;juice&quot;
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">the tires, you get only a few laps before they start=
 going off. Or at
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">least that's my experience.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">If you want tires on a budget, try using some cast-o=
ff Hoosier R45
<o:p></o:p></p>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">compound 23x9.5x15's. The used tires guys usually ha=
ve some.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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