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Rocky, how many coats did you put on before=A0a weekend?=A0 Formula V direc=
tions say to put 3 to 4 coats for 3 days.=A0 Did you do more than this?=A0 =
I've put on lots of coats with limited success but maybe I stopped short.=
=A0 The Formula V directions also=A0say to wait 48 hours before racing so I=
have not done subsequent coats for a two day event.=A0 When you say one co=
at to refresh them, I could see that this might work.=A0 The directions had=
me not going there.=A0 Jim=0A =0A=0A________________________________=0A Fr=
om: Rocky Entriken <rocky@spitfire4.com>=0ATo: Robert M. Lang <lang@isis.mi=
t.edu>; Scott Janzen <Janzen@REcatalyst.com> =0ACc: 'Friends of Triumph' Tr=
iumph <fot@autox.team.net> =0ASent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 1:49 PM=
=0ASubject: Re: [Fot] cantilever slicks=0A =0A=0AFormula V -- I used to se=
ll the stuff for many years (retired now) and still use it. My experience i=
s people who said the tires went off didn't do it enough. My analogy is the=
tire is like a hard dried sponge, infuse it with enough of the right liqui=
d and it's soft again. I'd juice mine until the stuff ran off and it just w=
ould not soak in any more (paint on a treatment, wait an hour, repeat). For=
multi-day events, one coat (and ONLY one) in the paddock overnight to refr=
esh them. Almost always used my tires until the cord showed up.=0A=0A--Rock=
y Entriken=0A=0A----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert M. Lang" <lang@i=
sis.mit.edu>=0ATo: "Scott Janzen" <Janzen@REcatalyst.com>=0ACc: "'Friends o=
f Triumph' Triumph" <fot@autox.team.net>=0ASent: Wednesday, September 18, 2=
013 9:01 AM=0ASubject: Re: [Fot] cantilever slicks=0A=0A=0A> On Tue, 17 Sep=
2013, Scott Janzen wrote:=0A> =0A>> so, I'm planning on breaking out the e=
x-Schneider-Bond-Wheeler TR4 for a couple of runs this fall - debating whet=
her I need new tires.=A0 There's plenty of rubber left on the Goodyear Eagl=
es (23x9x15), but as you might know, Goodyear doesn't make these anymore an=
d haven't for a few years, so I think they are 4-5 years old, minimum (no d=
ate codes). Should I soften them up with Formula V (tire softener), or spri=
ng for a new set of Hoosiers?=A0 Not going vintage at this point - with the=
suspension setup, the fiberglass flares, etc, I'm going to keep the car as=
it is.=0A>> =0A>> I don't have any experience with tires like this . . . c=
an I milk them for a bit longer or have they aged out?=0A> =0A> You can get=
away with traction compound, but you def. won't get optimal performance fr=
om the tires. The other problem is that after you "juice" the tires, you ge=
t only a few laps before they start going off. Or at least that's my experi=
ence.=0A> =0A> If you want tires on a budget, try using some cast-off Hoosi=
er R45 compound 23x9.5x15's. The used tires guys usually have some.=0A> =0A=
> regards,=0A> rml=0A> ----------------------------------------------------=
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ar=
ial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span>Rocky, how many coats=
did you put on before a weekend? Formula V directions say to pu=
t 3 to 4 coats for 3 days. Did you do more than this? <var id=
=3D"yui-ie-cursor"></var>I've put on lots of coats with limited success but=
maybe I stopped short. The Formula V directions also say to wai=
t 48 hours before racing so I have not done subsequent coats for a two day =
event. When you say one coat to refresh them, I could see that this m=
ight work. The directions had me not going there. Jim</span></d=
iv><div><br></div> <div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif=
; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, =
times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <div class=3D"hr" style=
=3D"margin: 5px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); he=
ight: 0px;
line-height: 0; font-size: 0px;" contenteditable=3D"false" readonly=3D"tru=
e"></div> <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: =
bold;">From:</span></b> Rocky Entriken <rocky@spitfire4.com><br> <b><=
span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Robert M. Lang <lang@is=
is.mit.edu>; Scott Janzen <Janzen@REcatalyst.com> <br><b><span sty=
le=3D"font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <f=
ot@autox.team.net> <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</spa=
n></b> Wednesday, September 18, 2013 1:49 PM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-wei=
ght: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Fot] cantilever slicks<br> </font> </d=
iv> <div class=3D"y_msg_container"><br>Formula V -- I used to sell the stuf=
f for many years (retired now) and still use it. My experience is people wh=
o said the tires went off didn't do it enough. My analogy is the tire is li=
ke a hard dried sponge, infuse it with enough of the right liquid and it's =
soft again.
I'd juice mine until the stuff ran off and it just would not soak in any m=
ore (paint on a treatment, wait an hour, repeat). For multi-day events, one=
coat (and ONLY one) in the paddock overnight to refresh them. Almost alway=
s used my tires until the cord showed up.<br><br>--Rocky Entriken<br><br>--=
--- Original Message ----- From: "Robert M. Lang" <<a href=3D"mailto:lan=
g@isis.mit.edu" ymailto=3D"mailto:lang@isis.mit.edu";>lang@isis.mit.edu</a>&=
gt;<br>To: "Scott Janzen" <<a href=3D"mailto:Janzen@REcatalyst.com"; ymai=
lto=3D"mailto:Janzen@REcatalyst.com";>Janzen@REcatalyst.com</a>><br>Cc: "=
'Friends of Triumph' Triumph" <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; yma=
ilto=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>><br>Sent: Wedn=
esday, September 18, 2013 9:01 AM<br>Subject: Re: [Fot] cantilever slicks<b=
r><br><br>> On Tue, 17 Sep 2013, Scott Janzen wrote:<br>> <br>>>=
; so, I'm planning on breaking out the ex-Schneider-Bond-Wheeler TR4 for a
couple of runs this fall - debating whether I need new tires. There'=
s plenty of rubber left on the Goodyear Eagles (23x9x15), but as you might =
know, Goodyear doesn't make these anymore and haven't for a few years, so I=
think they are 4-5 years old, minimum (no date codes). Should I soften the=
m up with Formula V (tire softener), or spring for a new set of Hoosiers?&n=
bsp; Not going vintage at this point - with the suspension setup, the fiber=
glass flares, etc, I'm going to keep the car as it is.<br>>> <br>>=
> I don't have any experience with tires like this . . . can I milk them=
for a bit longer or have they aged out?<br>> <br>> You can get away =
with traction compound, but you def. won't get optimal performance from the=
tires. The other problem is that after you "juice" the tires, you get only=
a few laps before they start going off. Or at least that's my experience.<=
br>> <br>> If you want tires on a budget, try using some
cast-off Hoosier R45 compound 23x9.5x15's. The used tires guys usually hav=
e some.<br>> <br>> regards,<br>> rml<br>> ---------------------=
------------------------------------------------------<br>> Bob Lang&nbs=
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