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Re: [Fot] Broken Diffs

To: robertlangtr6@yahoo.com, fot@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Broken Diffs
From: vfracing--- via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 16:51:17 +0000 (UTC)
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Bob et al:The carrier bearing snouts can be turned and sleeved to bring the=
 snout back up to interference fit dimensions. I've had two of them done qu=
ite successfully.
Phil

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Lang via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
To: FOT Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, Nov 23, 2018 9:25 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] Broken Diffs

 Hi - Thanks for all the input. I have a few cores and I've been poking aro=
und my parts to see if I have other bits to put things back together. I thi=
nk I can save the TranX, I will get it checked for cracks, just to be sure.

Regarding limited slip vs. locked - the TranX is by far the best one for MY=
 driving style that I've tried. FWIW, I have three Quaifes, I like them - t=
hey reward smooth - but I hate them coming out of tight stuff. Inside Wheel=
 Spin City

Regarding welded stock diffs, it turns out that stock center sections are g=
etting harder to find because folks wait 'till "too late" to send 'em for r=
ebuilds and a lot of them have one or both carrier bearings spun and the be=
arings are no longer "interference fit". A lot of these are getting junked =
according to my small circle of Triumph nuts.

My ultimate goal is to have 3.45, 3.70, 4.10 and 4.33 available with Salisb=
ury-type limited slips in them. That helps me gear for various tracks. Seem=
s like my pick for PittRace was more or less on target. ;-)
C ya,Bob Lang

    On Friday, November 23, 2018, 3:57:20 AM EST, Keith Files via Fot <fot@=
autox.team.net> wrote: =20
=20
 Hi Brian,
The answer is approximately 20% in both cases.
Keith


On 22 Nov 2018, at 21:31, Brian Schirano <bschirano@yahoo.com> wrote:
Happy thanksgiving all. Curious what is the HP loss from the flywheel to th=
e wheels. IE what does 292 at the fly equivalent at the wheels?
Cheers=C2=A0Brian=C2=A0


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

On Thursday, November 22, 2018, 12:07 PM, Mike Munson via Fot <fot@autox.te=
am.net> wrote:
I took it as Keith was throwing those numbers out there to give us an idea =
as to how much power the LSDs can handle. Thanks Keith, it was helpful info=
. FYI I use Lincoln Lockers in my TR6. I won=E2=80=99t post dyno sheets bec=
ause my HP/Talent ratio is too high!
Mike=C2=A0#28 TR6


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

On Wednesday, November 21, 2018, 7:27 PM, John Styduhar via Fot <fot@autox.=
team.net> wrote:
Any of you blokes that claim HP numbers need to attach the dyno sheet.=C2=
=A0=20

On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 12:11 PM Keith Files via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> w=
rote:

Hi Bob,
i am pretty sure that Tran X is the same as a Salisbury LSD and is still av=
ailable through TR Enterprises here in the UK.
I do not know what car you are using (TR4 i think) so a new Tran X is proba=
bly ok. I have 2 Salisbury LSD units in 2 axles for my TR4.
However, if you are running a TR6 then I would recommend a Gripper LSD as t=
hey can handle the extra power and need a lot less maintenance than the Sal=
isbury (I swapped out and sold both my Salisbury LSDs for 2 new Grippers fo=
r my TR6).
www.gripperlsd.com
Of interest my TR4 produces 194 bhp at the flywheel and my TR6 produces 252=
 bhp at the flywheel.
Hope that helps,
Keith
=C2=A0


On 21 Nov 2018, at 14:40, Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
 Should be a lot of used carriers around?

    On Tuesday, November 20, 2018, 11:34:42 PM EST, Robert Lang via Fot <fo=
t@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
=20
 Hi,
I broke a diff at Thompson back in October and I finally did a post-mortem.=
 Looks like a couple of bolts backed out and when the shit hit the fan, the=
 4 or 5 that were still holding on sheared off. In any case, lots of metal =
bits in there. Some of the big pieces bounced around in the diff and there'=
s some gouges in the Tran-X center section. The question to the group is - =
assuming that I find no cracks in the center section, it it accepted practi=
ce to clean off the dings to prevent stress risers and re-use it or is this=
 a "tosser".
Speaking of Tran-X, does anyone sell those now or are we limited to Quaife =
and GKN? I see that Rimmer lists both of those units. To be honest, I'm not=
 a fan of Quaife because I have to run the rear a lot softer to prevent whe=
el spin in the tight stuff - that kills my times at places like Thompson an=
d Palmer (like 1.5 to 2 seconds a lap.) Speaking of GKN, I know nothing abo=
ut them other than "clutch type differential". Feel free to chime in if you=
 have experience with those units.

Also, I am nearly 100% certain that I was using new lock washers and Red Lo=
ctite high strength thread compound, so the bolts backing out was a total s=
urprise when I cracked the case open. I was assuming that the pinion head h=
ad sheared off based on how the car felt when the diff broke. It was BANG a=
nd done - box full of neutrals.
Off topic - looks like I'm not driving at ButtonWillow, I got a reply from =
Joe Siam that he has nothing available for that date. Oh well. Look like my=
 budget is going to gears and stuff anyway... ;-)
c ya,Bob Lang
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<font color=3D'black' size=3D'2' face=3D'arial'>Bob et al:
<div>The carrier bearing snouts can be turned and sleeved to bring the snou=
t back up to interference fit dimensions. I've had two of them done quite s=
uccessfully.<br>
Phil<br>
<br>

<div style=3D"font-family:helvetica,arial;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----=
Original Message-----<br>
From: Robert Lang via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
To: FOT Triumph &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
Sent: Fri, Nov 23, 2018 9:25 am<br>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Broken Diffs<br>
<br>

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<div>Hi - Thanks for all the input. I have a few cores and I've been poking=
 around my parts to see if I have other bits to put things back together. I=
 think I can save the TranX, I will get it checked for cracks, just to be s=
ure.<br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Regarding limited slip vs. locked - the TranX is by far the best one f=
or MY driving style that I've tried. FWIW, I have three Quaifes, I like the=
m - they reward smooth - but I hate them coming out of tight stuff. Inside =
Wheel Spin City<br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Regarding welded stock diffs, it turns out that stock center sections =
are getting harder to find because folks wait 'till "too late" to send 'em =
for rebuilds and a lot of them have one or both carrier bearings spun and t=
he bearings are no longer "interference fit". A lot of these are getting ju=
nked according to my small circle of Triumph nuts.<br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>My ultimate goal is to have 3.45, 3.70, 4.10 and 4.33 available with S=
alisbury-type limited slips in them. That helps me gear for various tracks.=
 Seems like my pick for PittRace was more or less on target. ;-)</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>C ya,</div>

<div>Bob Lang<br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

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                    On Friday, November 23, 2018, 3:57:20 AM EST, Keith Fil=
es via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:
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<div>Hi Brian,
<div class=3D"yiv7953146887"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv7953146887"></d=
iv>

<div class=3D"yiv7953146887">The answer is approximately 20% in both cases.=
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv7953146887"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv7953146887"></d=
iv>

<div class=3D"yiv7953146887">Keith<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv7953146887=
">
<div class=3D"yiv7953146887yqt9125866439" id=3D"yiv7953146887yqt59930">
<div><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv7953146887"><blockquote class=3D"yiv795=
3146887" type=3D"cite">
<div class=3D"yiv7953146887">On 22 Nov 2018, at 21:31, Brian Schirano &lt;<=
a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv7953146887" ymailt=
o=3D"mailto:bschirano@yahoo.com"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:bschirano=
@yahoo.com">bschirano@yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv7953146887Apple-interchange-newline">
<div class=3D"yiv7953146887">
<div class=3D"yiv7953146887">
Happy thanksgiving all. Curious what is the HP loss from the flywheel to th=
e wheels. IE what does 292 at the fly equivalent at the wheels?
<div class=3D"yiv7953146887"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv7953146887"></d=
iv>

<div class=3D"yiv7953146887">Cheers&nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"yiv7953146887">Brian&nbsp;<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv7953=
146887"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv7953146887"><br clear=3D"none" class=
=3D"yiv7953146887"><a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"y=
iv7953146887" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.s=
rc=3DiOS">Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone</a><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yi=
v7953146887"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv7953146887">
<div class=3D"yiv7953146887yahoo-quoted-begin" style=3D"font-size:15px;colo=
r:#715FFA;padding-top:15px;margin-top:0;">On Thursday, November 22, 2018, 1=
2:07 PM, Mike Munson via Fot &lt;<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"re=
ct" class=3D"yiv7953146887" ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D=
"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrot=
e:</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv7953146887" id=3D"yiv7953146887">
<div class=3D"yiv7953146887">
I took it as Keith was throwing those numbers out there to give us an idea =
as to how much power the LSDs can handle. Thanks Keith, it was helpful info=
. FYI I use Lincoln Lockers in my TR6. I won=E2=80=99t post dyno sheets bec=
ause my HP/Talent ratio is too high!
<div class=3D"yiv7953146887"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv7953146887"></d=
iv>

<div class=3D"yiv7953146887">Mike&nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"yiv7953146887">#28 TR6<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv79531468=
87"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv7953146887"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"=
yiv7953146887"><a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv79=
53146887" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=
=3DiOS">Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone</a><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv7=
953146887"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv7953146887">
<div class=3D"yiv7953146887yqt7036490903" id=3D"yiv7953146887yqt27022">
<div class=3D"yiv7953146887yahoo-quoted-begin" style=3D"font-size:15px;colo=
r:#715FFA;padding-top:15px;margin-top:0;">On Wednesday, November 21, 2018, =
7:27 PM, John Styduhar via Fot &lt;<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"=
rect" class=3D"yiv7953146887" ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=
=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; w=
rote:</div>
<blockquote class=3D"yiv7953146887iosymail">
<div class=3D"yiv7953146887" id=3D"yiv7953146887">
<div class=3D"yiv7953146887">
<div class=3D"yiv7953146887" dir=3D"ltr">
<div class=3D"yiv7953146887gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small;">Any of=
 you blokes that claim HP numbers need to attach the dyno sheet.&nbsp; </di=
v>

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ear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv7953146887"></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv7953146887yqt7615330447" id=3D"yiv7953146887yqt49905">
<div class=3D"yiv7953146887" dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 12:11 PM K=
eith Files via Fot &lt;<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" class=
=3D"yiv7953146887" ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br cle=
ar=3D"none" class=3D"yiv7953146887"></div>
<blockquote class=3D"yiv7953146887gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;b=
order-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class=3D"yiv7953146887" style=3D"word-wrap:break-word;">Hi Bob,
<div class=3D"yiv7953146887"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv7953146887"></d=
iv>

<div class=3D"yiv7953146887">i am pretty sure that Tran X is the same as a =
Salisbury LSD and is still available through TR Enterprises here in the UK.=
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv7953146887"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv7953146887"></d=
iv>

<div class=3D"yiv7953146887">I do not know what car you are using (TR4 i th=
ink) so a new Tran X is probably ok. I have 2 Salisbury LSD units in 2 axle=
s for my TR4.</div>

<div class=3D"yiv7953146887"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv7953146887"></d=
iv>

<div class=3D"yiv7953146887">However, if you are running a TR6 then I would=
 recommend a Gripper LSD as they can handle the extra power and need a lot =
less maintenance than the Salisbury (I swapped out and sold both my Salisbu=
ry LSDs for 2 new Grippers for my TR6).</div>

<div class=3D"yiv7953146887"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv7953146887"></d=
iv>

<div class=3D"yiv7953146887"><a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" =
class=3D"yiv7953146887" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.gripperlsd.com=
/">www.gripperlsd.com</a></div>

<div class=3D"yiv7953146887"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv7953146887"></d=
iv>

<div class=3D"yiv7953146887">Of interest my TR4 produces 194 bhp at the fly=
wheel and my TR6 produces 252 bhp at the flywheel.</div>

<div class=3D"yiv7953146887"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv7953146887"></d=
iv>

<div class=3D"yiv7953146887">Hope that helps,</div>

<div class=3D"yiv7953146887"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv7953146887"></d=
iv>

<div class=3D"yiv7953146887">Keith</div>

<div class=3D"yiv7953146887"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv7953146887"></d=
iv>

<div class=3D"yiv7953146887">&nbsp;<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv795314688=
7">
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ockquote class=3D"yiv7953146887" type=3D"cite">
<div class=3D"yiv7953146887">On 21 Nov 2018, at 14:40, Jack Wheeler via Fot=
 &lt;<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv7953146887" =
ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fot@=
autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
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hange-newline">
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p" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-s=
ize:13px;">
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<div class=3D"yiv7953146887">Should be a lot of used carriers around?<br cl=
ear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv7953146887"></div>

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                    On Tuesday, November 20, 2018, 11:34:42 PM EST, Robert =
Lang via Fot &lt;<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv=
7953146887" ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D=
"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:
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<div class=3D"yiv7953146887">
<div class=3D"yiv7953146887m_-2675567912368232671ydpb94af08dyiv8313936560yd=
p243c3563yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, =
Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;">Hi,</div>

<div class=3D"yiv7953146887m_-2675567912368232671ydpb94af08dyiv8313936560yd=
p243c3563yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, =
Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv795314688=
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p243c3563yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, =
Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;">I broke a diff at Thompson back in Octob=
er and I finally did a post-mortem. Looks like a couple of bolts backed out=
 and when the shit hit the fan, the 4 or 5 that were still holding on shear=
ed off. In any case, lots of metal bits in there. Some of the big pieces bo=
unced around in the diff and there's some gouges in the Tran-X center secti=
on. The question to the group is - assuming that I find no cracks in the ce=
nter section, it it accepted practice to clean off the dings to prevent str=
ess risers and re-use it or is this a "tosser".</div>

<div class=3D"yiv7953146887m_-2675567912368232671ydpb94af08dyiv8313936560yd=
p243c3563yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, =
Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv795314688=
7"></div>

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p243c3563yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, =
Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;">Speaking of Tran-X, does anyone sell tho=
se now or are we limited to Quaife and GKN? I see that Rimmer lists both of=
 those units. To be honest, I'm not a fan of Quaife because I have to run t=
he rear a lot softer to prevent wheel spin in the tight stuff - that kills =
my times at places like Thompson and Palmer (like 1.5 to 2 seconds a lap.) =
Speaking of GKN, I know nothing about them other than "clutch type differen=
tial". Feel free to chime in if you have experience with those units.<br cl=
ear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv7953146887"></div>

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p243c3563yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, =
Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;">Also, I am nearly 100% certain that I wa=
s using new lock washers and Red Loctite high strength thread compound, so =
the bolts backing out was a total surprise when I cracked the case open. I =
was assuming that the pinion head had sheared off based on how the car felt=
 when the diff broke. It was BANG and done - box full of neutrals.</div>

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p243c3563yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, =
Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;">Off topic - looks like I'm not driving a=
t ButtonWillow, I got a reply from Joe Siam that he has nothing available f=
or that date. Oh well. Look like my budget is going to gears and stuff anyw=
ay... ;-)</div>

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