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I=E2=80=99ve been racing my tr6 for over 15 years and gave up,on the synchro=
box due to the inability to get good quality rings. Swapped to a quaiffe do=
g box and ended up buying another one from Vessey and a third from bustuck .=
Having experienced several counter shaft needle bearing failures which can b=
e very costly I have developed a box with ball bearings on a fixed lay shaft=
. Does involved a bit of machining but as I have my own machine shop and the=
time it not a problem for me. After four years of solid racing the ball bea=
ring are still perfect. Not for everyone but bullet proof.
If anyone is interested in details email me
Regards=20
Geoff Byrne TR6 racer down under
Sent from my iPad
> On 19 Jun 2019, at 6:14 am, van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot <fot@autox.team.=
net> wrote:
>=20
> Bastuck announced a new batch of dog box gear sets that should have been a=
vailable from february 2019 onwards. It took longer, but these sets are avai=
lable now.
> Marcel.
>=20
> Van: "fot" <fot@autox.team.net>
> Aan: "Tony Drews" <tony@tonydrews.com>
> Cc: "fot" <fot@autox.team.net>
> Verzonden: Dinsdag 18 juni 2019 18:54:23
> Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] TR4 transmission
>=20
> I would add that you can buy individual parts for the quaife should you we=
ar out a hub or chip a tooth . Each component has laser engraved part number=
s .
> T
>=20
> Sent from my iPhone
>=20
> On Jun 18, 2019, at 9:20 AM, Tony Drews via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote=
:
>=20
> Nice summary! I don't have much to add other than the Quaife gearset uses=
substantial needle bearings inside each of the gears, much larger input to m=
ainshaft needle bearing, steel thrust washers within the stack. Work of art=
. Layshaft still uses semi-stock bearings.
>=20
> When I blew up my tranny I ended up going with the Quaife and really like i=
t. No synchros to break, shifts are lightning quick, gear ratios work well.=
>=20
> Cheers, Tony Drews
>=20
> On 6/18/2019 9:24 AM, Robert Lang via Fot wrote:
> Hi,
>=20
> Those are THE questions, aren't they?
>=20
> Okay - Quaife has a straight-cut gear set that uses dog-rings, no synchros=
. Big $$$, 1600 UK pounds. Quaife just ran off a set and the one source that=
I know of in the UK can get them:
>=20
> Dennis Vessey - Quaife gear kits for Triumph TRs
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Dennis Vessey - Quaife gear kits for Triumph TRs
> metatags generator
> Vesseys Triumph TR Dog-Engagement Gear Kit - developed with Quaife
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Note, if you decide to go that route, please contact me, I've been in cont=
act with the vendor and I'm trying to place an order for this gearset. Maybe=
we can save some shipping if we get a couple of sets.
>=20
> Note too that Bastuck has dog box gear sets including one using the J-type=
overdrive. When I contacted them last fall, they had none in stock and ther=
e was no production scheduled.
>=20
> Failing that option, there's the "Dolomite Close Ratio Gearset". This cons=
ists of a different input shaft and main 3rd gear along with the correspondi=
ng layshaft gears. You need to work the case to get these to pit, but they w=
ork great. These are helical gears. I've used this setup for around 20 years=
, and it is really really good. Note: for the best total gear ratio option, g=
et a later TR6 gearbox with the 16-tooth 1st laygear.
>=20
> Now, the drawback to the helical gears is apparently excessive thrust forc=
es and they effect the layshaft thrust washers as well as the layshaft needl=
e bearings. If you make torque and you have any end float for the layshaft, y=
ou will spin the thrust washers and wreck the case. There are some workaroun=
ds to compensate for excessive end float.
>=20
> Note too that because of torque multiplication, the layshaft needle bearin=
gs on the 1st gear end of the layshaft get beat really, really hard. One fix=
is to install a double bearing on the layshaft (or buy a new one from Moss o=
r another source) that is set up for the double bearing. I've had Quantum Me=
chanics install the double bearings, they seem to work better than the stock=
setup. But even with that setup, the layshaft still gets pounded and you ne=
ed to keep an eye on it.
>=20
> As you may know, a lot of the racers are gravitating away from the stock a=
nd/or modified Triumph gearboxes mostly because the quality consistency of r=
eplacement parts is all over the place and you need to know what you're gett=
ing to spot the differences. That said, frequent oil changes and paying atte=
ntion to the detritus in the oil, you can stay ahead of problems.
>=20
> If you're going to build a good gearbox, it will cost you as much or more t=
han some of the conversions out there, hence a lot of folks switch to Toyota=
/T5/Rocket, etc.
>=20
> Hopefully you'll get other good advice on this list, but that's where I'm a=
t right now (too). The Quaife gearset in the TR gearbox seems like the most "=
vintage" solution, but ALL of the options have pluses and minuses. In the sp=
irit of full transparency, I'm also looking at Super T10 transmissions which=
are the same as the old Muncie "Rock Crusher" and there is a gearset availa=
ble with a 2.43 1st, 1.63 2nd, 1.23 3rd and 1 4th which is pretty close to t=
he Dolomite Sprint setup. And the gearbox is 70 pounds which is really close=
to the stock box. Also, if you want to dish out more $$$, Gear Vendors has a=
n overdrive that bolts to the T-10, I haven't researched that enough to see i=
f there are any particulars, but it is an option, albeit around $3k. But you=
get a BRAND NEW overdrive. Just sayin. A drawback to the Super T10 is that y=
ou will need to make or source a bell housing, but that is do-able with a co=
mbo of a trashed TR gearbox, a competent machinist and more $$$. ;-)
>=20
> Regards,
> Bob Lang
> 339-927-4489
>=20
> On Tuesday, June 18, 2019, 9:02:31 AM EDT, Mike Deweerd via Fot <fot@autox=
.team.net> wrote:
>=20
>=20
> Amici=20
> What is the preferred gearbox for the TR4 non overdrive and where is the b=
est source for getting such
> I=E2=80=99m looking at the pros and cons of the straight cut gear set vs t=
he close ratio gear set (I=E2=80=99m assuming the close ratio is still helic=
al gears)=20
> Please chime in with preferences and opinions=20
> Cheers=20
> Mike Deweerd #77
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I=E2=80=99ve been racing my tr6 for over 15=
years and gave up,on the synchro box due to the inability to get good quali=
ty rings. Swapped to a quaiffe dog box and ended up buying another one from V=
essey and a third from bustuck . Having experienced several counter shaft ne=
edle bearing failures which can be very costly I have developed a box with b=
all bearings on a fixed lay shaft. Does involved a bit of machining but as I=
have my own machine shop and the time it not a problem for me. After four y=
ears of solid racing the ball bearing are still perfect. Not for everyone bu=
t bullet proof.<div>If anyone is interested in details email me</div><div>Re=
gards </div><div>Geoff Byrne TR6 racer down under<br><br><div id=3D"App=
leMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPad</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On 1=
9 Jun 2019, at 6:14 am, van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:=
fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquo=
te type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-family: Verdana, Arial,=
Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000"><div>Bastuck announ=
ced a new batch of dog box gear sets that should have been available from fe=
bruary 2019 onwards. It took longer, but these sets are available now.</div>=
<div>Marcel.</div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"zwchr" data-marker=3D"__DIVIDER__=
"><div data-marker=3D"__HEADERS__"><b>Van: </b>"fot" <<a href=3D"mailto:f=
ot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Aan: </b>"Tony Drews" &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:tony@tonydrews.com";>tony@tonydrews.com</a>><br><b>Cc:=
</b>"fot" <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>&=
gt;<br><b>Verzonden: </b>Dinsdag 18 juni 2019 18:54:23<br><b>Onderwerp: </b>=
Re: [Fot] TR4 transmission<br></div><br><div data-marker=3D"__QUOTED_TEXT__"=
>
I would add that you can buy individual parts for the quaife should you wear=
out a hub or chip a tooth . Each component has laser engraved part numbers .=
<div>T<br>
<br>
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div><br>
On Jun 18, 2019, at 9:20 AM, Tony Drews via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@au=
tox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
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<blockquote>
<div>
<p>Nice summary! I don't have much to add other than the Quaife gearse=
t uses substantial needle bearings inside each of the gears, much larger inp=
ut to mainshaft needle bearing, steel thrust washers within the stack. =
Work of art. Layshaft still uses semi-stock
bearings.</p>
<p>When I blew up my tranny I ended up going with the Quaife and really like=
it. No synchros to break, shifts are lightning quick, gear ratios wor=
k well.</p>
<p>Cheers, Tony Drews<br>
</p>
<div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 6/18/2019 9:24 AM, Robert Lang via Fot wro=
te:<br>
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<div><br>
</div>
<div>Those are THE questions, aren't they?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Okay - Quaife has a straight-cut gear set that uses dog-rings, no synch=
ros. Big $$$, 1600 UK pounds. Quaife just ran off a set and the one source t=
hat I know of in the UK can get them:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.vessey-classic-car-services.co.uk/triumph-gear-ki=
t.htm#.XQjuu3t7n64" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" class=3D"enhancr_card=
_1791886968">Dennis Vessey - Quaife gear kits for Triumph TRs</a></div>
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</div>
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</div>
<div>Note, if you decide to go that route, please contact me, I've been in c=
ontact with the vendor and I'm trying to place an order for this gearset. Ma=
ybe we can save some shipping if we get a couple of sets.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Note too that Bastuck has dog box gear sets including one using the J-t=
ype overdrive. When I contacted them last fall, they had none in stock and t=
here was no production scheduled.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Failing that option, there's the "Dolomite Close Ratio Gearset". This c=
onsists of a different input shaft and main 3rd gear along with the correspo=
nding layshaft gears. You need to work the case to get these to pit, but the=
y work great. These are helical
gears. I've used this setup for around 20 years, and it is really really go=
od. Note: for the best total gear ratio option, get a later TR6 gearbox with=
the 16-tooth 1st laygear.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Now, the drawback to the helical gears is apparently excessive thrust f=
orces and they effect the layshaft thrust washers as well as the layshaft ne=
edle bearings. If you make torque and you have any end float for the layshaf=
t, you will spin the thrust washers
and wreck the case. There are some workarounds to compensate for excessive e=
nd float.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Note too that because of torque multiplication, the layshaft needle bea=
rings on the 1st gear end of the layshaft get beat really, really hard. One f=
ix is to install a double bearing on the layshaft (or buy a new one from Mos=
s or another source) that is
set up for the double bearing. I've had Quantum Mechanics install the doubl=
e bearings, they seem to work better than the stock setup. But even with tha=
t setup, the layshaft still gets pounded and you need to keep an eye on it.<=
/div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>As you may know, a lot of the racers are gravitating away from the stoc=
k and/or modified Triumph gearboxes mostly because the quality consistency o=
f replacement parts is all over the place and you need to know what you're g=
etting to spot the differences.
That said, frequent oil changes and paying attention to the detritus in the=
oil, you can stay ahead of problems.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>If you're going to build a good gearbox, it will cost you as much or mo=
re than some of the conversions out there, hence a lot of folks switch to To=
yota/T5/Rocket, etc.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Hopefully you'll get other good advice on this list, but that's where I=
'm at right now (too). The Quaife gearset in the TR gearbox seems like the m=
ost "vintage" solution, but ALL of the options have pluses and minuses. In t=
he spirit of full transparency,
I'm also looking at Super T10 transmissions which are the same as the old M=
uncie "Rock Crusher" and there is a gearset available with a 2.43 1st, 1.63 2=
nd, 1.23 3rd and 1 4th which is pretty close to the Dolomite Sprint setup. A=
nd the gearbox is 70 pounds
which is really close to the stock box. Also, if you want to dish out more $=
$$, Gear Vendors has an overdrive that bolts to the T-10, I haven't research=
ed that enough to see if there are any particulars, but it is an option, alb=
eit around $3k. But you get
a BRAND NEW overdrive. Just sayin. A drawback to the Super T10 is that you w=
ill need to make or source a bell housing, but that is do-able with a combo o=
f a trashed TR gearbox, a competent machinist and more $$$. ;-)<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Regards,</div>
<div>Bob Lang</div>
<div>339-927-4489<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
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<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Amici <br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">What is the preferred gearbox for the TR4 non overdrive and=
where is the best source for getting such<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">I=E2=80=99m looking at the pros and cons of the straight cu=
t gear set vs the close ratio gear set (I=E2=80=99m assuming the close ratio=
is still helical gears)
<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Please chime in with preferences and opinions <br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Cheers <br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Mike Deweerd #77<br>
</div>
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</div>
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