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To: Jason Sukey <jsukey@gmail.com>, Greg Blake <gblake58tr3@icloud.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] SU HS6 problems during hard braking
From: Terry Stetler via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 02:54:35 +0000
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Jason, it=92s been a while since I laid eyes on a GT6 engine, so forgive me=
.  Are both float chambers on the same side of the carbs?  Or is the rear o=
ne to the outside rear of the carb and the front one to the outside pointin=
g to the front of the car?  Or vice versa?   Sounds like under braking the =
carb with the fuel channel to the jet that pointing to the front of the car=
 is getting a higher fuel level and thus flooding that carb.  Is it possibl=
e to rotate that float bowl to the other side?

Terry Stetler.

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From: Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Jason Sukey via Fot <fo=
t@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2019 9:37:05 PM
To: Greg Blake
Cc: FOT list
Subject: Re: [Fot] SU HS6 problems during hard braking

The floats pivot so the swing front to back.   On the rear carb the pivot p=
in is nearest the firewall, on the front carb the pivot pin is nearest the =
radiator.

Thanks,
Jason

ake58tr3@icloud.com>> wrote:
What is the orientation of the pivot on the floats?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 13, 2019, at 8:17 PM, Jason Sukey via Fot <fot@autox.team.net<mailto=
:fot@autox.team.net>> wrote:

Phil, I'm running 2 psi.  My fuel pressure gauge stays consistent during th=
e entire run.

Thanks,
Jason

ol.com>> wrote:
Jason;
What sort of Fuel pressure are you running? Should be 1 1/2 to 3 psi, altho=
ugh a Spitfire driver and I run 6 with no apparent ill effect. More than th=
at could be causing you some of this problem.
Phil Gott

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 13, 2019, at 8:57 PM, Jason Sukey via Fot <fot@autox.team.net<mail=
to:fot@autox.team.net>> wrote:
>
> Hello FOT,
>      Running my GT6 at the PVGP historics this weekend.  I've sorted the =
braking system and installed new tires since the last time out.  Now that I=
'm actually able to brake hard, I'm suffering from what seems to be fuel fl=
ooding, possible sloshing in the float bowls and dumping out the jet into t=
he intake...
>
> During and immediately after a hard braking zone, the engine goes complet=
ely "off" and I can smell raw fuel.  After a few seconds it clears out and =
runs strong in all other conditions, no indication of over rich or starving=
 for fuel. Starts normally, no issues idling.
>
> Original fuel level in the floats was about 1/8" below the top of the jet=
.  By reducing the fuel level in the bowls from there, the problem has some=
what improved, but it's still significant.  Every session I adjust them a l=
ittle further, but I'm not sure this is the right fix...maybe a band aid.
>
> Has anyone experienced this with the HS carbs?
>
> Jason Sukey
>
>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jason, it=92s been a while since I laid eyes on a GT=
6 engine, so forgive me.&nbsp; Are both float chambers on the same side of =
the carbs?&nbsp; Or is the rear one to the outside rear of the carb and the=
 front one to the outside pointing to the front
 of the car?&nbsp; Or vice versa?&nbsp;&nbsp; Sounds like under braking the=
 carb with the fuel channel to the jet that pointing to the front of the ca=
r is getting a higher fuel level and thus flooding that carb.&nbsp; Is it p=
ossible to rotate that float bowl to the other side?</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Terry Stetler.</p>
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<div>
<div dir=3D"auto">The floats pivot so the swing front to back.&nbsp; &nbsp;=
On the rear carb the pivot pin is nearest the firewall, on the front carb t=
he pivot pin is nearest the radiator.
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Thanks,</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Jason</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Jul 13, 2019, 9:29 PM Greg Bl=
ake &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gblake58tr3@icloud.com";>gblake58tr3@icloud.com</a=
>&gt; wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"auto">What is the orientation of the pivot on the floats? &nbsp=
;<br>
<br>
<div id=3D"m_-3378539813793621208AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Sent from =
my iPhone</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
On Jul 13, 2019, at 8:17 PM, Jason Sukey via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@=
autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">fot@autox.team.net</a>=
&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"auto">Phil, I'm running 2 psi.&nbsp; My fuel pressure gauge sta=
ys consistent during the entire run.
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Thanks,</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Jason</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Jul 13, 2019, 9:15 PM Phil Go=
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x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Jason;<br>
What sort of Fuel pressure are you running? Should be 1 1/2 to 3 psi, altho=
ugh a Spitfire driver and I run 6 with no apparent ill effect. More than th=
at could be causing you some of this problem.<br>
Phil Gott<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone<br>
<br>
&gt; On Jul 13, 2019, at 8:57 PM, Jason Sukey via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:fot@autox.team.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">fot@au=
tox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Hello FOT,<br>
&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Running my GT6 at the PVGP historics this weekend.=
&nbsp; I've sorted the braking system and installed new tires since the las=
t time out.&nbsp; Now that I'm actually able to brake hard, I'm suffering f=
rom what seems to be fuel flooding, possible sloshing in the
 float bowls and dumping out the jet into the intake...<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; During and immediately after a hard braking zone, the engine goes comp=
letely &quot;off&quot; and I can smell raw fuel.&nbsp; After a few seconds =
it clears out and runs strong in all other conditions, no indication of ove=
r rich or starving for fuel. Starts normally, no issues
 idling.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Original fuel level in the floats was about 1/8&quot; below the top of=
 the jet.&nbsp; By reducing the fuel level in the bowls from there, the pro=
blem has somewhat improved, but it's still significant.&nbsp; Every session=
 I adjust them a little further, but I'm not sure
 this is the right fix...maybe a band aid.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Has anyone experienced this with the HS carbs?&nbsp; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Jason Sukey<br>
&gt; <br>
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