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Re: [Healeys] Driving 100

To: Greg Lemon <glemon@neb.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Driving 100
From: Derek Job <derek.c.job@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 08:11:26 +0100
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Bob

What do you mean by 'nominal' castor, camber and toe in? Toe in should be
1/8th of an inch. The other two are fixed at manufacture and i can't
remember exactly what they are but I think they are mentioned in the shop
manual. If they are not correct, toe in and castor will have a big effect
on how the car feels.

Derek

On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 3:42 AM, <glemon@neb.rr.com> wrote:

> Bob, I think something is out of spec.  My 100, on 165/80 modern"ish"
> radials was very stable, would not describe the handling as squirrelly at
> all, a very relaxed and smooth riding car compared to most of the other mgs
> and Triumphs and such I have owned.
>
> The one time I do remember it being squirrel was when the toe in was off
> after I set it by eyeball to drive it home after I had done,
> coincidentally, a steering box referb and tie and cross rod replacement in
> my mother's nearby garage and wanted to get it home for more precise
> adjustment.  The curves of the front fenders make the eyeball method even
> more inaccurate than you would figure it to be, but anyway it was
> squirrelly with the toe in off.
>
> Greg Lemon
>
>
> ---- Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
> > Listers,
> >
> > Finally had a chance to put some miles on our BN2/100M resto.  Car
> > tracks straight and turns well but feels somewhat 'squirrelly' or
> > 'twitchy' to me.  I'm used to driving a BJ8 with oversize (6") wheels
> > and 185/70 tires which feels like a land barge compared to the 100.  I
> > would expect a 100 to be a lot more nimble than a BJ8, but you have to
> > really stay on top of the car to stay out of the weeds.  We set up the
> > suspension ourselves, with nominal caster, camber and toe, but our tools
> > were somewhat crude and we may have screwed something up (particularly
> > the caster).
> >
> > Anyone driven both cars a lot, can tell me if something might be wrong,
> > or do I just have to stay on top of this car at all times (I know,
> > you're supposed to stay on top of ALL cars, but this one feels like it
> > has no margin for sloppiness or inattentiveness at all)?
> >
> > TIA,
> > Bob
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Bob<div><br></div><div style>What do you mean by &#39;nomi=
nal&#39; castor, camber and toe in? Toe in should be 1/8th of an inch. The =
other two are fixed at manufacture and i can&#39;t remember exactly what th=
ey are but I think they are mentioned in the shop manual. If they are not c=
orrect, toe in and castor will have a big effect on how the car feels.</div=
><div style><br></div><div style>Derek</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra=
"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 3:42 AM,  <span di=
r=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:glemon@neb.rr.com"; target=3D"_blank">glemon=
@neb.rr.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Bob, I =
think something is out of spec.=C2=A0 My 100, on 165/80 modern&quot;ish&quo=
t; radials was very stable, would not describe the handling as squirrelly a=
t all, a very relaxed and smooth riding car compared to most of the other m=
gs and Triumphs and such I have owned.<br>
<br>
The one time I do remember it being squirrel was when the toe in was off af=
ter I set it by eyeball to drive it home after I had done, coincidentally, =
a steering box referb and tie and cross rod replacement in my mother&#39;s =
nearby garage and wanted to get it home for more precise adjustment.=C2=A0 =
The curves of the front fenders make the eyeball method even more inaccurat=
e than you would figure it to be, but anyway it was squirrelly with the toe=
 in off.<br>
<br>
Greg Lemon<br>
<div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
---- Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";>bspidell@comca=
st.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; Listers,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Finally had a chance to put some miles on our BN2/100M resto.=C2=A0 Ca=
r<br>
&gt; tracks straight and turns well but feels somewhat &#39;squirrelly&#39;=
 or<br>
&gt; &#39;twitchy&#39; to me.=C2=A0 I&#39;m used to driving a BJ8 with over=
size (6&quot;) wheels<br>
&gt; and 185/70 tires which feels like a land barge compared to the 100.=C2=
=A0 I<br>
&gt; would expect a 100 to be a lot more nimble than a BJ8, but you have to=
<br>
&gt; really stay on top of the car to stay out of the weeds.=C2=A0 We set u=
p the<br>
&gt; suspension ourselves, with nominal caster, camber and toe, but our too=
ls<br>
&gt; were somewhat crude and we may have screwed something up (particularly=
<br>
&gt; the caster).<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Anyone driven both cars a lot, can tell me if something might be wrong=
,<br>
&gt; or do I just have to stay on top of this car at all times (I know,<br>
&gt; you&#39;re supposed to stay on top of ALL cars, but this one feels lik=
e it<br>
&gt; has no margin for sloppiness or inattentiveness at all)?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; TIA,<br>
&gt; Bob<br>
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