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The only time I =E2=80=98ve been able to get a vacuum bleeder to work =
satisfactorily using a short brake line screwed in-place of the bleeder.
It can be a bit messy yet works well.
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Mike, any chance of some pictures of what you have?
=20
Tom Mitchell
1965 Austin Healey BJ8 MKIII
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From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of =
Michael Salter
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2015 6:35 PM
To: John Rowe
Cc: Healey List
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bleeding brakes
=20
With out any question the best bleeder I have ever used was the Snap-On =
diaphragm brake bleeder that I have owned for at least 30 years. I don't =
know if they are still available.
I had to make a special adaptor (using old ski book spring clips) to =
secure it to a Healey brake fluid reservoir but it makes bleeding brakes =
a really simple one person job which is fast and completely removes air =
from the system.
Like most commenters I have found that the vacuum bleeders never =
produced satisfactory results.
AND I never bleed the brakes in any particular order...:-)
Michael S
BN1 #174
=20
=20
On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 6:13 PM, John Rowe <john@jtkarowe.com.au =
I have never had any luck with those vacuum bleeders, for that same =
reason of air entering through the thread of the bleeder screw. The =
bubbles never stop coming! Always resort to the time honoured version =
of opening and closing screws
John Rowe
Qld Australia
=20
=20
From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net =
Sent: Saturday, 4 July 2015 9:06 PM
To: 'Healey List'
Subject: [Healeys] Bleeding brakes
=20
Bleeding the furthest brakes is all very well, but not infallible. ie it =
is =E2=80=9Cbest practise=E2=80=9D but, in itself does not guarantee =
success. Many of us have been driven mad by spongy brakes after somehow =
failing to get all the air out. I know that I have.
I=E2=80=99ve got various manuals and one of my two BMC has this =
paragraph:-
=20
=E2=80=9CIf the bleeding of any cylinder continues without success for a =
considerable time it is
possible that air is being drawn in past the bleeder screw threads. In =
such cases tighten
the bleeder screw at the end of each downward stoke of the pedal and =
allow the pedal to
return fully before re-opening it. Close the bleeder screw finally =
during the last pedal
application.=E2=80=9D
ie you close the bleeder while fluid is still coming out. Messy, but it =
works. The theory is that the air gets past the thread as you close it. =
Fairly coarse threads. Pretty old bits of iron...plenty of wear.
=20
If you use an Eazibleed or similar, it becomes easier. Just open the =
bleeder a little and leave it open until the bubbles stop.
Worth bearing in mind.
=20
Simon
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>The only time I =E2=80=98ve been able to get a vacuum bleeder to work =
satisfactorily using a short brake line screwed in-place of the =
bleeder.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>It can be a bit messy yet works well.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>Mike, any chance of some pictures of what you =
have?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'>Tom =
Mitchell<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'>1965 =
Austin Healey BJ8 MKIII<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'><o:p> =
</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Michael Salter<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 04, 2015 6:35 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> John Rowe<br><b>Cc:</b> Healey List<br><b>Subject:</b> =
Re: [Healeys] Bleeding brakes<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>With out =
any question the best bleeder I have ever used was the Snap-On diaphragm =
brake bleeder that I have owned for at least 30 years. I don't know if =
they are still available.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>I had to =
make a special adaptor (using old ski book spring clips) to secure it to =
a Healey brake fluid reservoir but it makes bleeding brakes a really =
simple one person job which is fast and completely removes air from the =
system.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Like most commenters I have found =
that the vacuum bleeders never produced satisfactory =
results.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS"'>AND I never bleed the brakes in any particular =
order...:-)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Michael =
S<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS"'>BN1 #174<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Sat, =
Jul 4, 2015 at 6:13 PM, John Rowe <<a =
href=3D"mailto:john@jtkarowe.com.au"; =
target=3D"_blank">john@jtkarowe.com.au</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid =
#CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'color:#1F497D'>I have never had any luck with =
those vacuum bleeders, for that same reason of air entering through the =
thread of the bleeder screw. The bubbles never stop coming! Always =
resort to the time honoured version of opening and closing =
screws</span><span lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'color:#1F497D'>John Rowe</span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Qld Australia</span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'color:#1F497D'> </span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'color:#1F497D'> </span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</span></=
b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> =
Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Simon Lachlan<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 4 July 2015 9:06 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Healey List'<br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] Bleeding =
brakes</span><span lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-AU> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-autospac=
e:none'><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-family:"TimesNewRoman",serif'>Bleeding the furthest brakes =
is all very well, but not infallible. ie it is =E2=80=9Cbest =
practise=E2=80=9D but, in itself does not guarantee success. Many of us =
have been driven mad by spongy brakes after somehow failing to get all =
the air out. I know that I have.</span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-autospac=
e:none'><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-family:"TimesNewRoman",serif'>I=E2=80=99ve got various =
manuals and one of my two BMC has this paragraph:-</span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-autospac=
e:none'><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-family:"TimesNewRoman",serif'> </span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-autospac=
e:none'><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-family:"TimesNewRoman",serif'>=E2=80=9CIf the bleeding of =
any cylinder continues without success for a considerable time it =
is</span><span lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-autospac=
e:none'><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-family:"TimesNewRoman",serif'>possible that air is being =
drawn in past the bleeder screw threads. In such cases =
tighten</span><span lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-autospac=
e:none'><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-family:"TimesNewRoman",serif'>the bleeder screw at the end =
of each downward stoke of the pedal and allow the pedal to</span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-autospac=
e:none'><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-family:"TimesNewRoman",serif'>return fully before =
re-opening it. Close the bleeder screw finally during the last =
pedal</span><span lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-family:"TimesNewRoman",serif'>application.=E2=80=9D</span><=
span lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-family:"TimesNewRoman",serif'>ie you close =
the bleeder while fluid is still coming out. Messy, but it works. The =
theory is that the air gets past the thread as you close it. Fairly =
coarse threads. Pretty old bits of iron...plenty of wear.</span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-family:"TimesNewRoman",serif'> </span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-family:"TimesNewRoman",serif'>If you use an =
Eazibleed or similar, it becomes easier. Just open the bleeder a little =
and leave it open until the bubbles stop.</span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-family:"TimesNewRoman",serif'>Worth bearing =
in mind.</span><span lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-family:"TimesNewRoman",serif'> </span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-family:"TimesNewRoman",serif'>Simon</span><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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