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To: David Nock <healeydoc@gmail.com>, healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bleeding brakes
From: Oudesluys <coudesluijs@chello.nl>
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2015 18:05:32 +0200
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That is the Eezibleed from Gunson. Still widely available. Easy to get 
through eBay, www.gunson.co.uk/item.aspx?item=1818 or Amazon.co.uk.
I have improvised often enough using an old bicycle inner tyre.
Kees Oudesluijs


David Nock schreef op 8-7-2015 om 17:28:
> At one time there was a kit available that you put a adaptor cap on 
> the reservoir and used then there was a hose with an adaptor the 
> attached to a tire. You then used the pressure in the tire as a 
> pressure bleeder.
> Have not seen one in a long time, this is that same theory as the 
> pressure bleeder here in the shop.
> You could make on by using getting a new cap for you reservoir. Then 
> use your old one and drill a hole and install an adaptor with hose. 
> Then using a adaptor and  hose off a tire pump attach to the 
> reservoir. Then go to each bleeder and bleed the system.
> David Nock
> healeydoc@sbcglobal.net
> 209 948 8767
> www.britishcarspecialists.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 08, 2015 3:31 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Bleeding brakes
> Hi Larry,
>
> No offence taken at all. Did not even think of that. Donot worry, I 
> cannot easily be offended anyway and I am always surprised that some 
> on the list are a bit inflammable.
> I often make comments that apply to classic cars in general and are 
> not Healey specific. Many have other cars as well.
>
> Cheers,
> Kees Oudesluijs
>
>
>
>
> Larry Varley schreef op 8-7-2015 om 12:00:
>> Hi Kees, obviously I mistook this for a Healey specific list :) 
>> generalized comments can be misleading to those that look for good 
>> advise from the list. No offense intended.
>> Cheers
>> Larry Varley
>>
>> On 8/07/2015 6:59 PM, Oudesluys wrote:
>>> Hi Larry,
>>> Not a rare occurrence in BN1, but a BN1 is a rare occurrence on its 
>>> own in the car world;-) . Most brake circuits are properly designed 
>>> to make bleeding the system an easy straight forward job.
>>> Same problems on some old Landrovers.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kees Oudesluijs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Larry Varley schreef op 8-7-2015 om 10:22:
>>>> Kees, this is not a rare occurrence in a BN1, stop and take a look 
>>>> at the BN1 front wheel cylinder layout. If the brakes are not de 
>>>> adjusted there is an air pocket in the wheel cylinders above the 
>>>> height of the bleed screw. The air will be very difficult to bleed 
>>>> out as it is trapped. I have advised many to do this and they found 
>>>> an immediate improvement in the bleeding process and improvement in 
>>>> pedal firmness.
>>>> Regards
>>>> Larry Varley
>>>>
>>>> On 8/07/2015 4:44 PM, Oudesluys wrote:
>>>>> I have used an Eezibleed or similar lightly pressurized system for 
>>>>> over 50 years and it has always worked for me on a very large 
>>>>> range of vehicles.
>>>>> A one man job that is done efficiently and quickly.
>>>>> As remarked before, it is generally a good idea to adjust back 
>>>>> your drum brakes and push back the calliper pistons (using e few 
>>>>> small wedges between pads and discs) to minimise the volume in the 
>>>>> brake cylinders and callipers if the bleed nipples are positioned 
>>>>> in such a way that air can remain trapped in the cylinders or 
>>>>> callipers, although this is a fairly rare occurrence.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kees Oudesluijs
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">That is the Eezibleed from Gunson.
      Still widely available. Easy to get through eBay,
      <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="http://www.gunson.co.uk/item.aspx?item=1818";>www.gunson.co.uk/item.aspx?item=1818</a>
 or Amazon.co.uk.<br>
      I have improvised often enough using an old bicycle inner tyre.<br>
      Kees Oudesluijs<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      David Nock schreef op 8-7-2015 om 17:28:<br>
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          <div>At one time there was a kit available that you put a
            adaptor cap on the reservoir and used then there was a hose
            with an adaptor the attached to a tire. You then used the
            pressure in the tire as a pressure bleeder. </div>
          <div> </div>
          <div>Have not seen one in a long time, this is that same
            theory as the pressure bleeder here in the shop.</div>
          <div> </div>
          <div>You could make on by using getting a new cap for you
            reservoir. Then use your old one and drill a hole and
            install an adaptor with hose. Then using a adaptor and  hose
            off a tire pump attach to the reservoir. Then go to each
            bleeder and bleed the system. </div>
          <div> </div>
          <div> </div>
          <div>David Nock<br>
            <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="mailto:healeydoc@sbcglobal.net";>healeydoc@sbcglobal.net</a><br>
            209 948 8767<br>
            <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="http://www.britishcarspecialists.com";>www.britishcarspecialists.com</a></div>
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                <div><b>From:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    title="coudesluijs@chello.nl"
                    href="mailto:coudesluijs@chello.nl";>Oudesluys</a> </div>
                <div><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 08, 2015 3:31 AM</div>
                <div><b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    title="healeys@autox.team.net"
                    
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>
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                <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Bleeding brakes</div>
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            <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Larry,<br>
              <br>
              No offence taken at all. Did not even think of that. Donot
              worry, I cannot easily be offended anyway and I am always
              surprised that some on the list are a bit inflammable.<br>
              I often make comments that apply to classic cars in
              general and are not Healey specific. Many have other cars
              as well.<br>
              <br>
              Cheers,<br>
              Kees Oudesluijs<br>
              <br>
              <br>
              <br>
              <br>
              Larry Varley schreef op 8-7-2015 om 12:00:<br>
            </div>
            <blockquote cite="mid:559CF4BB.9040007@cosmos.net.au"
              type="cite"> Hi Kees, obviously I mistook this for a
              Healey specific list :) generalized comments can be
              misleading to those that look for good advise from the
              list. No offense intended.<br>
              Cheers<br>
              Larry Varley<br>
              <br>
              <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/07/2015 6:59 PM,
                Oudesluys wrote:<br>
              </div>
              <blockquote cite="mid:559CE67C.9020204@chello.nl"
                type="cite">
                <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Larry,<br>
                  Not a rare occurrence in BN1, but a BN1 is a rare
                  occurrence on its own in the car world<span
                    class="moz-smiley-s3"><span> ;-) </span></span>.
                  Most brake circuits are properly designed to make
                  bleeding the system an easy straight forward job.<br>
                  Same problems on some old Landrovers.<br>
                  Cheers,<br>
                  Kees Oudesluijs<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  Larry Varley schreef op 8-7-2015 om 10:22:<br>
                </div>
                <blockquote cite="mid:559CDDB8.7040109@cosmos.net.au"
                  type="cite">Kees, this is not a rare occurrence in a
                  BN1, stop and take a look at the BN1 front wheel
                  cylinder layout. If the brakes are not de adjusted
                  there is an air pocket in the wheel cylinders above
                  the height of the bleed screw. The air will be very
                  difficult to bleed out as it is trapped. I have
                  advised many to do this and they found an immediate
                  improvement in the bleeding process and improvement in
                  pedal firmness. <br>
                  Regards<br>
                  Larry Varley<br>
                  <br>
                  <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/07/2015 4:44 PM,
                    Oudesluys wrote:<br>
                  </div>
                  <blockquote cite="mid:559CC6D8.8090405@chello.nl"
                    type="cite">
                    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">I have used an
                      Eezibleed or similar lightly pressurized system
                      for over 50 years and it has always worked for me
                      on a very large range of vehicles. <br>
                      A one man job that is done efficiently and
                      quickly.<br>
                      As remarked before, it is generally a good idea to
                      adjust back your drum brakes and push back the
                      calliper pistons (using e few small wedges between
                      pads and discs) to minimise the volume in the
                      brake cylinders and callipers if the bleed nipples
                      are positioned in such a way that air can remain
                      trapped in the cylinders or callipers, although
                      this is a fairly rare occurrence.<br>
                      <br>
                      Kees Oudesluijs<br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
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