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Re: [Healeys] Bleeding brakes

To: "Oudesluys" <coudesluijs@chello.nl>, <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bleeding brakes
From: "David Nock" <healeydoc@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2015 08:28:30 -0700
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At one time there was a kit available that you put a adaptor cap on the =
reservoir and used then there was a hose with an adaptor the attached to =
a tire. You then used the pressure in the tire as a pressure bleeder.=20

Have not seen one in a long time, this is that same theory as the =
pressure bleeder here in the shop.

You could make on by using getting a new cap for you reservoir. Then use =
your old one and drill a hole and install an adaptor with hose. Then =
using a adaptor and  hose off a tire pump attach to the reservoir. Then =
go to each bleeder and bleed the system.=20


David Nock
healeydoc@sbcglobal.net
209 948 8767
www.britishcarspecialists.com

From: Oudesluys=20
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 3:31 AM
To: healeys@autox.team.net=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bleeding brakes

Hi Larry,

No offence taken at all. Did not even think of that. Donot worry, I =
cannot easily be offended anyway and I am always surprised that some on =
the list are a bit inflammable.
I often make comments that apply to classic cars in general and are not =
Healey specific. Many have other cars as well.

Cheers,
Kees Oudesluijs




Larry Varley schreef op 8-7-2015 om 12:00:

  Hi Kees, obviously I mistook this for a Healey specific list :) =
generalized comments can be misleading to those that look for good =
advise from the list. No offense intended.
  Cheers
  Larry Varley


  On 8/07/2015 6:59 PM, Oudesluys wrote:

    Hi Larry,
    Not a rare occurrence in BN1, but a BN1 is a rare occurrence on its =
own in the car world ;-) . Most brake circuits are properly designed to =
make bleeding the system an easy straight forward job.
    Same problems on some old Landrovers.
    Cheers,
    Kees Oudesluijs



    Larry Varley schreef op 8-7-2015 om 10:22:

      Kees, this is not a rare occurrence in a BN1, stop and take a look =
at the BN1 front wheel cylinder layout. If the brakes are not de =
adjusted there is an air pocket in the wheel cylinders above the height =
of the bleed screw. The air will be very difficult to bleed out as it is =
trapped. I have advised many to do this and they found an immediate =
improvement in the bleeding process and improvement in pedal firmness.=20
      Regards
      Larry Varley


      On 8/07/2015 4:44 PM, Oudesluys wrote:

        I have used an Eezibleed or similar lightly pressurized system =
for over 50 years and it has always worked for me on a very large range =
of vehicles.=20
        A one man job that is done efficiently and quickly.
        As remarked before, it is generally a good idea to adjust back =
your drum brakes and push back the calliper pistons (using e few small =
wedges between pads and discs) to minimise the volume in the brake =
cylinders and callipers if the bleed nipples are positioned in such a =
way that air can remain trapped in the cylinders or callipers, although =
this is a fairly rare occurrence.

        Kees Oudesluijs





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<DIV class=3Dmoz-cite-prefix>Hi Larry,<BR><BR>No offence taken at all. =
Did not=20
even think of that. Donot worry, I cannot easily be offended anyway and =
I am=20
always surprised that some on the list are a bit inflammable.<BR>I often =
make=20
comments that apply to classic cars in general and are not Healey =
specific. Many=20
have other cars as well.<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR>Kees=20
Oudesluijs<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Larry Varley schreef op 8-7-2015 om=20
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  obviously I mistook this for a Healey specific list :) generalized =
comments=20
  can be misleading to those that look for good advise from the list. No =
offense=20
  intended.<BR>Cheers<BR>Larry Varley<BR><BR>
  <DIV class=3Dmoz-cite-prefix>On 8/07/2015 6:59 PM, Oudesluys =
wrote:<BR></DIV>
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    <DIV class=3Dmoz-cite-prefix>Hi Larry,<BR>Not a rare occurrence in =
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    BN1 is a rare occurrence on its own in the car world<SPAN=20
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front=20
      wheel cylinder layout. If the brakes are not de adjusted there is =
an air=20
      pocket in the wheel cylinders above the height of the bleed screw. =
The air=20
      will be very difficult to bleed out as it is trapped. I have =
advised many=20
      to do this and they found an immediate improvement in the bleeding =
process=20
      and improvement in pedal firmness. <BR>Regards<BR>Larry =
Varley<BR><BR>
      <DIV class=3Dmoz-cite-prefix>On 8/07/2015 4:44 PM, Oudesluys=20
wrote:<BR></DIV>
      <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3Dmid:559CC6D8.8090405@chello.nl type=3D"cite">
        <DIV class=3Dmoz-cite-prefix>I have used an Eezibleed or similar =
lightly=20
        pressurized system for over 50 years and it has always worked =
for me on=20
        a very large range of vehicles. <BR>A one man job that is done=20
        efficiently and quickly.<BR>As remarked before, it is generally =
a good=20
        idea to adjust back your drum brakes and push back the calliper =
pistons=20
        (using e few small wedges between pads and discs) to minimise =
the volume=20
        in the brake cylinders and callipers if the bleed nipples are =
positioned=20
        in such a way that air can remain trapped in the cylinders or =
callipers,=20
        although this is a fairly rare occurrence.<BR><BR>Kees=20
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