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Re: [Healeys] Keeping rear shock bolts tight

To: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Keeping rear shock bolts tight
From: Austin Healey <pajtamuvek@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 21:16:15 +0100
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Try what I suggested: coarse sand paper gasket under the shock. The bolt
connection is a friction-bend. To increase its power, You either increase
the held down force, OR increase the surface coeficient. The sand paper
does this.
We had hard times with Mini shock mount plates. Finally the sand paper
gasket solved the problem (even K+D gluing came of).

gergo

2016-01-06 18:04 GMT+01:00 Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>:

> I should mention that in addition to the small plates on the surface of
> the shock ears with the bolt heads welded to them  I also borrowed a little
> bit of 100S technology for AHX12 and made up some small plates with a "V"
> shaped  notch that fitted tightly onto the edges of the shock ears. These
> were welded onto the surface of the shock mount.
> Despite all these efforts I still found that "heavy landings" then broke
> the ears off the shocks!!!
> The final solution was a little more radical.
> http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=87
>
> Michael S
> BN1 #174
>
> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Probably more work than most people would want to undertake but, because
>> for competition work I found that washers eventually dig into the ears, I
>> cut a "washer" the same shape as the shock "ear" out of 3/16" steel plate
>> and then put the bolt through it and tacked the head of the bolt to my
>> "washer".
>> This method has the added advantage that you don't need to hold the bolt
>> head while tightening the nut.
>>
>> Michael S
>> BN1 #174
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 7:08 PM, Bruce Steele <healeybruce@roadrunner.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Seeking ideas on how to keep the rear shock mount bolts tight.  They
>>> work loose every 1,500 to 2,000 miles, and tightening them is routine with
>>> my annual maintenance.  I currently have grade 8 bolts, nuts and split
>>> washers.  Grade 5 bolts, nuts, and split washers were no worse (or better)
>>> than the grade 8.  Tried Nord-Lock washers 2 years ago after someone posted
>>> about them on this list.  They loosened more quickly than split washers.
>>> Tried thread locker and nylocks as well, neither of which were better than
>>> split washers.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyone have a method that actually keeps the hardware tight?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bruce Steele
>>>
>>> Brea, CA
>>>
>>> 1960 BN7
>>>
>>>
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>>
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>> *If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.*
>>
>>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Try what I suggested: coarse sand paper gasket under the s=
hock. The bolt connection is a friction-bend. To increase its power, You ei=
ther increase the held down force, OR increase the surface coeficient. The =
sand paper does this.<div>We had hard times with Mini shock mount plates. F=
inally the sand paper gasket solved the problem (even K+D gluing came of).<=
br><div><br></div><div>gergo</div></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><b=
r><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2016-01-06 18:04 GMT+01:00 Michael Salter <spa=
n dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; target=3D"_bla=
nk">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1e=
x"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic=
 sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">I should mention that in addition to t=
he small plates on the surface of the shock ears with the bolt heads welded=
 to them=C2=A0 I also borrowed a little bit of 100S technology for AHX12 an=
d made up some small plates with a &quot;V&quot; shaped=C2=A0 notch that fi=
tted tightly onto the edges of the shock ears. These were welded onto the s=
urface of the shock mount. <br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"=
font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Despite all these eff=
orts I still found that &quot;heavy landings&quot; then broke the ears off =
the shocks!!!<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:co=
mic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">The final solution was a little mor=
e radical. <a href=3D"http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=3D87"; target=3D"=
_blank">http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=3D87</a><br><br></div><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:small">Michael S<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fami=
ly:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">BN1 #174<br></div></div><div c=
lass=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Michael Salter <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">m=
ichaelsalter@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1=
ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comi=
c sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Probably more work than most people w=
ould want to undertake but, because for competition work I found that washe=
rs eventually dig into the ears, I cut a &quot;washer&quot; the same shape =
as the shock &quot;ear&quot; out of 3/16&quot; steel plate and then put the=
 bolt through it and tacked the head of the bolt to my &quot;washer&quot;. =
<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,s=
ans-serif;font-size:small">This method has the added advantage that you don=
&#39;t need to hold the bolt head while tightening the nut.<br><br></div><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:small">Michael S<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">BN1 #174<br></div></div>=
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><div>On Sun,=
 Jan 3, 2016 at 7:08 PM, Bruce Steele <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:healeybruce@roadrunner.com" target=3D"_blank">healeybruce@roadrunner.com=
</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><=
div><div link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72" lang=3D"EN-US"><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&=
quot;,sans-serif">Seeking ideas on how to keep the rear shock mount bolts t=
ight.=C2=A0 They work loose every 1,500 to 2,000 miles, and tightening them=
 is routine with my annual maintenance.=C2=A0 I currently have grade 8 bolt=
s, nuts and split washers.=C2=A0 Grade 5 bolts, nuts, and split washers wer=
e no worse (or better) than the grade 8.=C2=A0 Tried Nord-Lock washers 2 ye=
ars ago after someone posted about them on this list.=C2=A0 They loosened m=
ore quickly than split washers.=C2=A0 Tried thread locker and nylocks as we=
ll, neither of which were better than split washers.=C2=A0 <u></u><u></u></=
span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family=
:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Trebuche=
t MS&quot;,sans-serif">Anyone have a method that actually keeps the hardwar=
e tight?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0=
<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Bruce Steele<u=
></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0=
pt;font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Brea, CA<=
u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">1960 BN7=
<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></d=
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