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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Question
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 14:57:00 +0000 (UTC)
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As long as we're on the topic of lubricants (for autos ... get your mind ou=
t off the gutter ;)):=20

I just refreshed the Royal Purple Synchromax in my Mustang's gearbox. I fir=
st installed it at a couple thousand miles mileage; car now has about 122K =
miles. Synchromax was suggested by a Mustang guru when I asked the interweb=
s what would help what I thought was somewhat 'notchy' shifting; it indeed =
seemed to make shifts a little smoother. I know manufacturers now recommend=
 not changing the oil in differentials and manual transmissions ever, or at=
 least at very long intervals. I only changed the Mustang gearbox oil becau=
se, well, because of general principles. To my surprise--I wasn't expected =
this at all--the gearbox seemed to shift smoother. To me, this could indica=
te that, even in areas that don't get contaminated with combustion byproduc=
ts lubricants can be 'worn out.' I think synthetics are overall better--I c=
an think of one specific exception, but it doesn't apply to autos--but they=
 still need to be changed, probably due to heat and sheer forces breaking d=
own the long chain molecules in the fluid. Also, the old oil was black, whe=
reas the fresh oil has a purple hue (duh). Not sure why that would be--as t=
here is no way for combustion byproducts to get into the gearbox--except po=
ssibly the silly dye used to color the oil might break down from heat and s=
heer forces.=20

FWIW.=20

Bob=20

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From: "i erbs" <eyera3000@gmail.com>=20
To: "Jean Caron" <vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com>=20
Cc: "Ahealey help" <healeys@autox.team.net>=20
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 5:33:32 AM=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Question=20



They only stop leaking when they are out of oil. So most likely related to =
the failure.=20

Ira Erbs=20
1959 100-6=20
MKI engine and disc brakes=20
Portland,OR=20

On Nov 6, 2016 9:38 PM, "Jean Caron" < vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail=
.com > wrote:=20





I have used sealant as well, just rebuilt an overdrive last week and used s=
ealant, will it make a difference, not so sure about that, but I have long =
accepted the fact that Austin-Healey leak oil and I don't worry about it. S=
everal years ago, a Club member proudly told me that his Healey no longer h=
ad any oil leaks and within a week the engine blew, was it related, not sur=
e but what a coincidence.=20




Jean=20



From: Healeys < healeys-bounces@autox.team.net > on behalf of David Porter =
< frogeye@porterscustom.com >=20
Sent: November 7, 2016 12:45 AM=20
To: Michael Salter; Austin Healeys List=20
Cc: Healey List=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Question=20


I concur, but have on occasion used sealant. It's a PITA to get on both sid=
es properly during assembly.. There can be some dissimilar metal corrosion =
after all this time passage.=20

DaveP=20



On 11/6/2016 2:22 PM, Michael Salter wrote:=20

<blockquote>

Hi Andy,=20
The thing is that there is no mention of the use of any type of sealant on =
the clutch ring in any of the literature that I have on the overdrive units=
...=20
Hard to imagine but I have never seen evidence of any on the virgin units t=
hat I have disassembled... I think it was just a dry joint!!!=20
Michael S=20
BN1 #174=20





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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #0000=
00"><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">As long as we're on the topic of lubri=
cants (for autos ... get your mind out off the gutter ;)):</div><div aria-l=
abel=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">I just ref=
reshed the Royal Purple Synchromax in my Mustang's gearbox. &nbsp;I first i=
nstalled it at a couple thousand miles mileage; car now has about 122K mile=
s. &nbsp;Synchromax was suggested by a Mustang guru when I asked the interw=
ebs what would help what I thought was somewhat 'notchy' shifting; it indee=
d seemed to make shifts a little smoother. &nbsp;I know manufacturers now r=
ecommend not changing the oil in differentials and manual transmissions eve=
r, or at least at very long intervals. &nbsp;I only changed the Mustang gea=
rbox oil because, well, because of general principles. &nbsp;To my surprise=
--I wasn't expected this at all--the gearbox seemed to shift smoother. &nbs=
p;To me, this could indicate that, even in areas that don't get contaminate=
d with combustion byproducts lubricants can be 'worn out.' &nbsp;I think sy=
nthetics are overall better--I can think of one specific exception, but it =
doesn't apply to autos--but they still need to be changed, probably due to =
heat and sheer forces breaking down the long chain molecules in the fluid. =
&nbsp;Also, the old oil was black, whereas the fresh oil has a purple hue (=
duh). &nbsp;Not sure why that would be--as there is no way for combustion b=
yproducts to get into the gearbox--except possibly the silly dye used to co=
lor the oil might break down from heat and sheer forces.</div><div aria-lab=
el=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">FWIW.</div><=
div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">=
Bob</div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div style=3D"color:#000;font-weig=
ht:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Aria=
l,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;" data-mce-style=3D"color: #000; font-weight: n=
ormal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Ar=
ial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From: </b>"i erbs" &lt;eyera3000@gmail=
.com&gt;<br><b>To: </b>"Jean Caron" &lt;vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmai=
l.com&gt;<br><b>Cc: </b>"Ahealey help" &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b=
>Sent: </b>Monday, November 7, 2016 5:33:32 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Heal=
eys] Overdrive Question<br><div><br></div><p dir=3D"ltr">They only stop lea=
king when they are out of oil. So most likely related to the failure.</p><p=
 dir=3D"ltr">Ira Erbs<br> 1959 100-6<br> MKI engine and disc brakes<br> Por=
tland,OR</p><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On No=
v 6, 2016 9:38 PM, "Jean Caron" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:vintage_roadster_rest=
oration@hotmail.com" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:vintage_road=
ster_restoration@hotmail.com">vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com</a>&=
gt; wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;=
border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" data-mce-style=3D"margin: 0 0 =
0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><=
div id=3D"m_2798980074683027735divtagdefaultwrapper" style=3D"font-size:12p=
t;color:#000000;font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" dir=3D"ltr"=
 data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 12pt; color: #000000; font-family: Calibri,Ar=
ial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"><p>I have used sealant as well, just rebuilt an =
overdrive last week and used sealant, will it make a difference, not so sur=
e about that, but I have long accepted the fact that Austin-Healey leak oil=
 and I don't worry about it. Several years ago, a Club member proudly told =
me that his Healey no longer had any oil leaks and within a week the engine=
 blew, was it related, not sure but what a coincidence.</p><p><br></p><p>Je=
an<br></p><br> <br><div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)" data-mce-style=3D"color:=
 #000000;"><hr style=3D"display:inline-block;width:98%" data-mce-style=3D"d=
isplay: inline-block; width: 98%;"><div id=3D"m_2798980074683027735divRplyF=
wdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><span data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: #000000;=
 font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: #00000=
0; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Calibri, sa=
ns-serif"><b>From:</b> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.=
team.net" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.t=
eam.net">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; on behalf of David Porter &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:frogeye@porterscustom.com"; target=3D"_blank" data-mce-=
href=3D"mailto:frogeye@porterscustom.com";>frogeye@porterscustom.com</a>&gt;=
<br> <b>Sent:</b> November 7, 2016 12:45 AM<br> <b>To:</b> Michael Salter; =
Austin Healeys List<br> <b>Cc:</b> Healey List<br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Hea=
leys] Overdrive Question</span><div>&nbsp;</div></div><div><p>I concur, but=
 have on occasion used sealant. It's a PITA to get on both sides properly d=
uring assembly.. There can be some dissimilar metal corrosion after all thi=
s time passage.</p><p>DaveP</p><p><br></p><br><div class=3D"m_2798980074683=
027735moz-cite-prefix">On 11/6/2016 2:22 PM, Michael Salter wrote:<br></div=
><blockquote><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small" data-mce-style=3D"font-famil=
y: comic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size: small;">Hi Andy,<br></div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size=
:small" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size:=
 small;">The thing is that there is no mention of the use of any type of se=
alant on the clutch ring in any of the literature that I have on the overdr=
ive units... <br> Hard to imagine but I have never seen evidence of any on =
the virgin units that I have disassembled... I think it was just a dry join=
t!!!<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans =
ms,sans-serif;font-size:small" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: comic sans ms=
,sans-serif; font-size: small;">Michael S<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_defa=
ult" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small" data-mc=
e-style=3D"font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size: small;">BN1 #1=
74<br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div>=
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