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Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Question

To: "Michael Salter" <michaelsalter@gmail.com>, "Healey List" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Question
From: "Roger Grace" <roggrace@telus.net>
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 08:04:24 -0800
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Tks to all for good input.
Wondering if anyone has thoughts why factory never installed a gasket at =
this flange joint ?
Any negatives about retro-fitting one after 50 years ?
rg


From: Michael Salter=20
Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2016 9:38 AM
To: Healey List=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Question

Out of interest I just did the calculations for the change in length of =
the studs in this case.

Assuming:

4 x 5/16" dia studs with an effective diameter of 0.25" each (thread =
root) and a length of 3" (in actual fact only the bottom pair are that =
long).

0.8 G of braking (which is probably way higher than our tires can =
generate)=20

Young's Modulus of 30,000,000 @ 100 degrees F

700 lbs of engine and gearbox (which is probably very high considering =
that the the mounts are all rubber and the main engine mounts would =
absorb a fair bit as well)

Works out to about 0.00028" of stretch.=20
That's less than 10% of a human hair and only during panic braking if =
the tie rod is the only thing resisting the load.

I think that there must be other contributing factors...

Michael S

BN1 #174=20


On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Bluehealey <bluehealey@gmail.com> =
wrote:

  Team.

  I can agree that a good goo between the mating faces is important and =
the Japanese Motorcycle manufacturers will probably have the solution =
nailed.  The root cause however isn=E2=80=99t necessarily pressure, =
flange flatness, or goo failure.

  It is more likely that the rear reaction strut (not sure what else to =
call it) causes the joint to flex a little and open every time the car =
slows under braking.  My theory and the solution I adopted can be found =
here:

  http://www.bluehealey.com/Struts.html

  No leaks from my gearbox.



  AlanB







  From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of =
Roger Grace
  Sent: 05 November 2016 21:02
  To: David Porter; Healey List


  Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Question


  Sorry to reopen this, but have this same leak in my BJ8 OD and fixing =
it is one of my Winter projects.

  Given that the black sealant stuff that was used before didn=E2=80=99t =
last (have no idea how long ago or what it is) and that there is no oil =
pressure on the joint, am sensitive to using what is the appropriate goo =
that will last and contain the oil.

  Have done some checking around and the Hylomar universal blue is used =
by some shops that fix OD=E2=80=99s.

  Overdrive Services (ex Laycock people in UK) tell me that the =
originals were sealed with a product called Wellseal.

  Nowadays they use a Wurth sealant that mentions flange mating in its =
website blurb.

  BTW they said that they could supply me with a gasket for this joint =
that seems like a good idea ?



  The reality is that these are 2 Al flanges that are mated without a =
gasket. I wonder why ?. Plan to do some careful flatness checking when =
have my hands on them.  Has anyone had a problem with the mating =
flatness ?  do they have a tendency to warp over the years and maybe =
abuse too ? given the shape not easy to machine flat - why do they leak =
?



  Comments/ideas please.

  rg





  From: David Porter=20

  Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 7:15 AM

  To: Bob Spidell ; John Spaur=20

  Cc: healeys=20

  Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Question



  seems like any RTV that is oil compliant will work. There is no =
internal pressure that will force oil out. The oil level in the OD is =
just above the operating shaft level, hence the need for the o-rings on =
the shaft.

  DaveP adding to the wisdom....



  On 10/26/2016 7:40 AM, Bob Spidell wrote:

    Soooooooo ... both types of Hylomar WILL seal the joint?






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    From: "John Spaur" mailto:jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net
    To: "WILLIAM B LAWRENCE" mailto:YNOTINK@msn.com, "healeys" =
mailto:healeys@autox.team.net
    Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 8:27:53 PM
    Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Question



    In my experiences neither of the two types Hylomar will not seal =
that joint.



    John Spaur

    San Jose



    From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of =
WILLIAM B LAWRENCE
    Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2016 8:26 PM
    To: healeys@autox.team.net
    Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive Question



    =E2=80=A6disassembly of the OD because it is seeping oil at the =
clutch ring. There are no gaskets, but I would like to smear some =
Hylomar on the joint faces to stop the leak.=20


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<DIV>Tks to all for good input.</DIV>
<DIV>Wondering if anyone has thoughts why factory never installed a =
gasket at=20
this flange joint ?</DIV>
<DIV>Any negatives about retro-fitting one after 50 years ?</DIV>
<DIV>rg</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3Dmichaelsalter@gmail.com>Michael Salter</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 6, 2016 9:38 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dhealeys@autox.team.net>Healey List</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Question</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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I just did the calculations for the change in length of the studs in =
this=20
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ms,sans-serif">Assuming:<BR></DIV>
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5/16" dia=20
studs with an effective diameter of 0.25" each (thread root) and a =
length of 3"=20
(in actual fact only the bottom pair are that long).<BR></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_default=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: comic sans ms,sans-serif">0.8 G =
of braking=20
(which is probably way higher than our tires can generate) <BR></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_default=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: comic sans =
ms,sans-serif">Young's Modulus=20
of 30,000,000 @ 100 degrees F<BR></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_default=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: comic sans ms,sans-serif">700 =
lbs of=20
engine and gearbox (which is probably very high considering that the the =
mounts=20
are all rubber and the main engine mounts would absorb a fair bit as=20
well)<BR></DIV>
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: comic sans ms,sans-serif">Works =
out to=20
about 0.00028" of stretch. <BR>That's less than 10% of a human hair and =
only=20
during panic braking if the tie rod is the only thing resisting the=20
load.<BR></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_default=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: comic sans ms,sans-serif">I =
think that=20
there must be other contributing factors...<BR></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_default=20
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S<BR></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_default=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: comic sans ms,sans-serif">BN1 =
#174=20
<BR></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Bluehealey =
<SPAN=20
dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A target=3D_blank>bluehealey@gmail.com</A>&gt;</SPAN> =
wrote:<BR>
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
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#1f497d'>Team.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
  style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: =
#1f497d'>I=20
  can agree that a good goo between the mating faces is important and =
the=20
  Japanese Motorcycle manufacturers will probably have the solution=20
  nailed.&nbsp; The root cause however isn=E2=80=99t necessarily =
pressure, flange=20
  flatness, or goo failure.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
  style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: =
#1f497d'>It=20
  is more likely that the rear reaction strut (not sure what else to =
call it)=20
  causes the joint to flex a little and open every time the car slows =
under=20
  braking.&nbsp; My theory and the solution I adopted can be found=20
  here:<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
  style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: =
#1f497d'><A=20
  href=3D"http://www.bluehealey.com/Struts.html"=20
  =
target=3D_blank>http://www.bluehealey.com/<WBR>Struts.html</A><U></U><U><=
/U></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
  style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: =
#1f497d'>No=20
  leaks from my gearbox.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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  style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: =
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
  style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: =
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  Healeys [mailto:<A =
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  <B>On Behalf Of </B>Roger Grace<BR><B>Sent:</B> 05 November 2016=20
  21:02<BR><B>To:</B> David Porter; Healey List</SPAN></P>
  <DIV>
  <DIV class=3Dh5><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Healeys] Overdrive=20
  Question<U></U><U></U></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <DIV class=3Dh5>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><U></U><U></U>&nbsp;</P>
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  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans =
MS"'>Sorry to reopen=20
  this, but have this same leak in my BJ8 OD and fixing it is one of my =
Winter=20
  projects.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans =
MS"'>Given that the=20
  black sealant stuff that was used before didn=E2=80=99t last (have no =
idea how long=20
  ago or what it is) and that there is no oil pressure on the joint, am=20
  sensitive to using what is the appropriate goo that will last and =
contain the=20
  oil.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans MS"'>Have =
done some=20
  checking around and the Hylomar universal blue is used by some shops =
that fix=20
  OD=E2=80=99s.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans =
MS"'>Overdrive=20
  Services (ex Laycock people in UK) tell me that the originals were =
sealed with=20
  a product called Wellseal.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans =
MS"'>Nowadays they=20
  use a Wurth sealant that mentions flange mating in its website=20
  blurb.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans MS"'>BTW =
they said=20
  that they could supply me with a gasket for this joint that seems like =
a good=20
  idea ?<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
  style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans =
MS"'><U></U><U></U></SPAN>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans MS"'>The =
reality is=20
  that these are 2 Al flanges that are mated without a gasket. I wonder =
why ?.=20
  Plan to do some careful flatness checking when have my hands on =
them.&nbsp;=20
  Has anyone had a problem with the mating flatness ?&nbsp; do they have =
a=20
  tendency to warp over the years and maybe abuse too ? given the shape =
not easy=20
  to machine flat - why do they leak ?<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
  style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans =
MS"'><U></U><U></U></SPAN>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans =
MS"'>Comments/ideas=20
  please.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
  style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans =
MS"'>rg<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
  style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Comic Sans =
MS"'><U></U><U></U></SPAN>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
  style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><U></U><U></U></SPAN>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN=20
  style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN=20
  style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"'> David =
Porter=20
  <U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN=20
  style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN=20
  style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Wednesday,=20
  October 26, 2016 7:15 AM<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN=20
  style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>To:</SPAN></B><SPAN=20
  style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Bob =
Spidell ;=20
  John Spaur <U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN=20
  style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Cc:</SPAN></B><SPAN=20
  style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"'> healeys =

  <U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN=20
  style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN=20
  style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Re: =
[Healeys]=20
  Overdrive Question<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
  style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: =
"Calibri","sans-serif"'><U></U><U></U></SPAN>&nbsp;</P></DIV></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P><SPAN style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'>seems like any =
RTV that=20
  is oil compliant will work. There is no internal pressure that will =
force oil=20
  out. The oil level in the OD is just above the operating shaft level, =
hence=20
  the need for the o-rings on the shaft.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
  <P><SPAN style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'>DaveP adding to =
the=20
  wisdom....<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
  style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: =
"Calibri","sans-serif"'><U></U><U></U></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: =
"Calibri","sans-serif"'>On=20
  10/26/2016 7:40 AM, Bob Spidell wrote:<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
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"Arial","sans-serif"'>Soooooooo=20
    ... both types of Hylomar WILL seal the=20
joint?<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
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    style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"'>From: =
</SPAN></B><SPAN=20
    style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"'>"John Spaur" <A=20
    target=3D_blank>mailto:jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net</A><BR><B>To: =
</B>"WILLIAM B=20
    LAWRENCE" <A target=3D_blank>mailto:YNOTINK@msn.com</A>, "healeys" =
<A=20
    target=3D_blank>mailto:healeys@autox.team.net</A><BR><B>Sent: =
</B>Tuesday,=20
    October 25, 2016 8:27:53 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: [Healeys] =
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    Question<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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COLOR: #1f497d'>In=20
    my experiences neither of the two types Hylomar will not seal that=20
    joint.</SPAN><U></U><U></U></P>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal><U></U><U></U>&nbsp;</P>
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"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN=20
    style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'> =
Healeys [<A=20
    target=3D_blank>mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.<WBR>team.net</A>] =
<B>On Behalf=20
    Of </B>WILLIAM B LAWRENCE<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 23, 2016 =
8:26=20
    PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A=20
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[Healeys]=20
    Overdrive Question</SPAN><U></U><U></U></P></DIV></DIV>
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    style=3D'FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'>disassembly of the OD =
because it=20
    is seeping oil at the clutch ring. There are no gaskets, but I would =
like to=20
    smear some Hylomar on the joint faces to stop the leak.=20
    </SPAN><U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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