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From: Oudesluys <coudesluijs@chello.nl>
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 00:14:25 +0100
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If the radiator cap is airtight it always will pull back the coolant.
Kees Oudesluijs


Op 15-11-2016 om 20:36 schreef David Nock BCS:
> Yes but if the car has a non pressurized system it may not pull the 
> coolant back when it cools down
> David Nock
> British Car Specialists
> 209-948-8767
> www.britishcarspecialists.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 15, 2016 9:21 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Coolant Expansion Bottle
> David--
> Yes, a sealed cap which includes those with the button vent that 
> essentially pulls in and seals when there is a vacuum in the system 
> below it.
> Best--Michael Oritt
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 11:33 AM, David Nock <healeydoc@gmail.com 
>
>     It will only draw the coolant back and forth from the expansion
>     tank if the radiator cap is a sealed cap.
>     David Nock
>     209 948 8767
>     www.britishcarspecialists.com <http://www.britishcarspecialists.com>
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, November 15, 2016 5:31 AM
>     *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Coolant Expansion Bottle
>     Patrick--
>     The system will draw coolant back into the system from the
>     expansion tank only if the end of the hose is submerged in
>     coolant, either because it enters the tank from the bottom or from
>     the top in which case, as Kimo points out, the hose clamps must be
>     tight so that the vacuum created within the radiator is preserved
>     in order to draw liquid.
>     Best--Michael Oritt
>     On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn
>
>         G?day
>
>         I know the subject of fitting a coolant expansion bottle has
>         been covered before, but this has a twist as it concerns a
>         Healey and not an Austin-Healey.
>
>         Our Healey Duncan has its original cooling system that is
>         unpressurised. It?s assisted by an electric fan in front of
>         the radiator, but with our warmer climate it persists is
>         dumping its coolant out through the overflow pipe.
>
>         The radiator cap is a screw on type and the overflow pipe
>         exits the radiator header tank separately in front of the cap.
>         Being unpressurised there is nothing to stop the hot and
>         expanded coolant from exiting via the overflow pipe.
>
>         I am thinking of fitting a coolant expansion bottle but am
>         wondering if this will work on an unpressurised system. It
>         seems to me that it should not make any difference, because if
>         the coolant cannot escape to the outside world when it expands
>         then it should flow back into the radiator once it cools.
>
>         Any opinions?
>
>         Thanks
>
>         Patrick Quinn
>
>         Blue Mountains, Australia
>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">If the radiator cap is airtight it
      always will pull back the coolant.<br>
      Kees Oudesluijs<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      Op 15-11-2016 om 20:36 schreef David Nock BCS:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote cite="mid:04178D07A0DD45F5BD11ECB8CFEF64AC@DavidNockHP"
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          <div>Yes but if the car has a non pressurized system it may
            not pull the coolant back when it cools down</div>
          <div> </div>
          <div> </div>
          <div>David Nock<br>
            British Car Specialists<br>
            209-948-8767<br>
            <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="http://www.britishcarspecialists.com";>www.britishcarspecialists.com</a></div>
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              <div>
                <div><b>From:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    title="michael.oritt@gmail.com"
                    href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com";>Michael Oritt</a>
                </div>
                <div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 15, 2016 9:21 AM</div>
                <div><b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    title="healeydoc@gmail.com"
                    href="mailto:healeydoc@gmail.com";>David Nock</a> </div>
                <div><b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    title="healeys@autox.team.net"
                    href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>Austin Healey</a>
                </div>
                <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Coolant Expansion
                  Bottle</div>
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              <div class="gmail_default">David--</div>
              <div class="gmail_default"> </div>
              <div class="gmail_default">Yes, a sealed cap which
                includes those with the button vent that essentially
                pulls in and seals when there is a vacuum in the system
                below it.</div>
              <div class="gmail_default"> </div>
              <div class="gmail_default">Best--Michael Oritt</div>
            </div>
            <div class="gmail_extra">
              <div> </div>
              <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 11:33 AM,
                David Nock <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:healeydoc@gmail.com"; 
target="_blank">healeydoc@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                wrote:<br>
                <blockquote class="gmail_quote">
                  <div dir="ltr">
                    <div dir="ltr">
                      <div>
                        <div>It will only draw the coolant back and
                          forth from the expansion tank if the radiator
                          cap is a sealed cap. </div>
                        <div> </div>
                        <div>David Nock<br>
                          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:healeydoc@sbcglobal.net";
                            target="_blank">healeydoc@sbcglobal.net</a><br>
                          209 948 8767<br>
                          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="http://www.britishcarspecialists.com";
                            
target="_blank">www.britishcarspecialists.com</a></div>
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                          <div>
                            <div> </div>
                            <div>
                              <div><b>From:</b> <a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  title="michael.oritt@gmail.com"
                                  href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com";
                                  target="_blank">Michael Oritt</a> </div>
                              <div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 15,
                                2016 5:31 AM</div>
                              <div><b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  title="p_cquinn@tpg.com.au"
                                  href="mailto:p_cquinn@tpg.com.au";
                                  target="_blank">Patrick &amp; Caroline
                                  Quinn</a> </div>
                              <div><b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  title="healeys@autox.team.net"
                                  href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
                                  target="_blank">Austin Healey</a> </div>
                              <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Coolant
                                Expansion Bottle</div>
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                          <div> </div>
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                              <div dir="ltr">
                                <div class="gmail_default">Patrick--</div>
                                <div class="gmail_default"> </div>
                                <div class="gmail_default">The system
                                  will draw coolant back into the system
                                  from the expansion tank only if the
                                  end of the hose is submerged in
                                  coolant, either because it enters the
                                  tank from the bottom or from the top
                                  in which case, as Kimo points out, the
                                  hose clamps must be tight so that the
                                  vacuum created within the radiator is
                                  preserved in order to draw liquid.</div>
                                <div class="gmail_default"> </div>
                                <div class="gmail_default">Best--Michael
                                  Oritt</div>
                              </div>
                              <div class="gmail_extra">
                                <div> </div>
                                <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 14,
                                  2016 at 3:37 PM, Patrick &amp;
                                  Caroline Quinn <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:p_cquinn@tpg.com.au";
                                      
target="_blank">p_cquinn@tpg.com.au</a>&gt;</span>
                                  wrote:<br>
                                  <blockquote class="gmail_quote">
                                    <div lang="EN-AU">
                                      <div
                                        
class="m_2118124728570370457m_7435241687470160984WordSection1">
                                        <p 
class="MsoNormal"><span>G?day</span></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span></span> </p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>I
                                            know the subject of fitting
                                            a coolant expansion bottle
                                            has been covered before, but
                                            this has a twist as it
                                            concerns a Healey and not an
                                            Austin-Healey.</span></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span></span> </p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Our
                                            Healey Duncan has its
                                            original cooling system that
                                            is unpressurised. It?s
                                            assisted by an electric fan
                                            in front of the radiator,
                                            but with our warmer climate
                                            it persists is dumping its
                                            coolant out through the
                                            overflow pipe.</span></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span></span> </p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>The
                                            radiator cap is a screw on
                                            type and the overflow pipe
                                            exits the radiator header
                                            tank separately in front of
                                            the cap. Being unpressurised
                                            there is nothing to stop the
                                            hot and expanded coolant
                                            from exiting via the
                                            overflow pipe.</span></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span></span> </p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>I am
                                            thinking of fitting a
                                            coolant expansion bottle but
                                            am wondering if this will
                                            work on an unpressurised
                                            system. It seems to me that
                                            it should not make any
                                            difference, because if the
                                            coolant cannot escape to the
                                            outside world when it
                                            expands then it should flow
                                            back into the radiator once
                                            it cools.</span></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span></span> </p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Any
                                            opinions?</span></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span></span> </p>
                                        <p 
class="MsoNormal"><span>Thanks</span></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span></span> </p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Patrick
                                            Quinn</span></p>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Blue
                                            Mountains, Australia</span></p>
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