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To: Richard Collins <gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Subject: Re: alum radiator swap
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2019 20:33:07 -0700
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so the idle stall at 190+ temp could be vapor lock?? I missed the obvious
while troubleshooting. My car started running hot 192  and then above while
driving on the freeway in 90 heat . or it would spritz water out around the
radiator cap. I replaced it twice. might be a crack in one of the welds.  I
am going to take my oem unit to a radiator shop to have then pressure check
it.
Portland,OR
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On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 7:02 PM Richard Collins <gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com>
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> In my humble view 190 isn=E2=80=99t an issue: except as in my case I get =
a vapor
> lock so fuel starvation is the issue. But at highway speeds, 180 is the
> norm. Stop lights get me to 190=E2=80=99s and vapor lock ( in the summer)=
 not so
> much other times.
> After 20 minutes of cooling, I can go again.
> Mine is ORM radiator and 4 blade fan;  new water pump and fan shroad
>
> Regards,
> Richard C
>
>
> On Jun 2, 2019, at 19:47, Albert Seminatore <alsemus1@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thought I'd share my experience with the alum radiator.
> First I had the OEM radiator boiled cleaned etc..  Then I put in a flex
> fan.  Finally a 160 degree F thermostat.
>     Results: Helped a bit but in the summer and in the desert the temp
> went to almost 190F.
>
> Talked to someone who had an alum. in his MGTD.  Said it gave him 20%
> increase in cooling.  So being foolish I bought one.
>     Results:  Absolutely NO change.  Well it lightened my pocket book.
>
> Recently talked to a man who made a shroud for his healey and claimed it
> made a big difference alng with his Texas Fan (6 bladed).
>      Results:  I started to make the shroud BUT.  The fan is not centered
> on the radiator.   The fan is 1 inch to the left of the radiator.  So the
> plans for a shroud isn't going to work as is.
>
>       Questions:  Is the motor incorrectly mounted causing the offset?
>                         If I put in an electric fan is it best to remove
> the flex fan completely?
>                         Would a four core radiator be of any help?
>                         Should I ignore my fear and let the temp go to
> 190F without a worry?
> I live in the desert and have to go over a 5000 foot mountain to get to
> Las Vegas.
> Thanks..............    Al
>
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> Albert Seminatore
> Mountain Falls, Pahrump, NV
> eMail:  alsemus1@gmail.com
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<div dir=3D"ltr">so the idle stall at 190+ temp could be vapor lock?? I mis=
sed the obvious while troubleshooting. My car started running hot 192=C2=A0=
 and then above while driving on the freeway in 90 heat . or it would sprit=
z water out around the radiator cap. I replaced it twice. might be a crack =
in one of the welds.=C2=A0 I am going to take my oem unit to a radiator sho=
p to have then pressure check it.<div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signa=
ture" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Portland,OR</=
div><div><span style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">=C2=A0=
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 _______ =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0_______</=
span><br style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style=
=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (_____=
_ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)</span><br style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New=
 Roman&#39;,serif"><span style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,ser=
if">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (_________________________)</span></d=
iv><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 BT7 engine and disk brakes</div>=
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>1967 MGB =C2=A0<img src=3D"http://www.br=
itishcarspecialists.com/assets/images/MG_emblem.jpg" alt=3D"MG"></div><div>=
<br></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:&quot;Helveti=
ca Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px">A racing car is an=
 animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti</span><br></div><div>Pl=
ease excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words</div></div></div></di=
v></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><=
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gmail_attr">On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 7:02 PM Richard Collins &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com">gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<b=
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<div dir=3D"auto">
In my humble view 190 isn=E2=80=99t an issue: except as in my case I get a =
vapor lock so fuel starvation is the issue. But at highway speeds, 180 is t=
he norm. Stop lights get me to 190=E2=80=99s and vapor lock ( in the summer=
) not so much other times.
<div>After 20 minutes of cooling, I can go again.</div>
<div>Mine is ORM radiator and 4 blade fan; =C2=A0new water pump and fan shr=
oad=C2=A0<br>
<br>
<div id=3D"gmail-m_4785286471973435597AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Regar=
ds,
<div>Richard C</div>
<div><br>
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</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
On Jun 2, 2019, at 19:47, Albert Seminatore &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:alsemus1@=
gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">alsemus1@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Thought I&#39;d shar=
e my experience with the alum radiator.<br clear=3D"all">
</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_default">First I had the OEM =
radiator boiled cleaned etc..=C2=A0 Then I put in a flex fan.=C2=A0 Finally=
 a 160 degree F thermostat.</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_default">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 R=
esults: Helped a bit but in the summer and in the desert the temp went to a=
lmost 190F.</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_default"><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_default">Talked to someone wh=
o had an alum. in his MGTD.=C2=A0 Said it gave him 20% increase in cooling.=
=C2=A0 So being foolish I bought one.
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_default">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 R=
esults:=C2=A0 Absolutely NO change.=C2=A0 Well it lightened my pocket book.=
</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_default"><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_default">Recently talked to a=
 man who made a shroud for his healey and claimed it made a big difference =
alng with his Texas Fan (6 bladed).</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_default">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 Results:=C2=A0 I started to make the shroud BUT.=C2=A0 The fan is no=
t centered on the radiator.=C2=A0=C2=A0 The fan is 1 inch to the left of th=
e radiator.=C2=A0 So the plans for a shroud isn&#39;t going to work as is.<=
/div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_default"><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_default">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 Questions:=C2=A0 Is the motor incorrectly mounted causing the =
offset?
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_default">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 If I put in=
 an electric fan is it best to remove the flex fan completely?</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_default">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Would a four core radiator be=
 of any help?<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_default">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Should I ignore my fear and let =
the temp go to 190F without a worry?</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_default">I live in the desert=
 and have to go over a 5000 foot mountain to get to Las Vegas.</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_default">Thanks..............=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Al<br>
</div>
<br>
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