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In this I fully support what Kees said.
Absolute waste of money.
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Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Subject: Re: alum radiator swap
Datum: 2019-06-03T19:15:05+0200
Von: "Kees Oudesluijs" <coudesluijs@chello.nl>
An: "Michael MacLean" <rrengineer.mike@att.net>, "healeys@autox.team.net"=
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Expensive and an absolutely a waste of money. Cooling will suffer as it=20
does not transfer heat as well as water (the main ingredient of coolant)=20
and the heat capacity is lower. The only advantage is it will not boil but=
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it does not cool the engine as well as ordinary coolant.
Anyway, you should correct the source of overheating which is the only=20
proper way to go. Fighting the symptoms only is not going to work in the=20
end.
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Kees Oudesluijs
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Op 3-6-2019 om 19:04 schreef Michael MacLean:
You could always use Evans waterless coolant. Then you wouln't have to
worry about overheating in traffic or anywhere.
Mike MacLean
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Evans Waterless Coolant, Prevent Engine Overheating
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Evans waterless coolant, the solution to engine overheating & corrosion
for classic cars, hot rods, muscle cars,...
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On Sunday, June 2, 2019, 11:40:04 PM PDT, Patrick & Caroline Quinn=20
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Hello
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I agree with Kees, 190=C2=B0F is no big deal. The gauges fitted to
Austin-Healeys read to 230=C2=B0F and when the needle goes past that is=
when
you should start worrying.
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Hoo Roo
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Patrick Quinn
Blue Mountains, Australia
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From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net
Sent: Monday, 3 June 2019 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Subject: Re: alum radiator swap
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190=C2=B0F is no big deal, boiling point is well over 212=C2=B0F. Howev=
er check
the accuracy of the thermometer to be sure of a correct reading.
Kees Oudesluijs
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Op 3-6-2019 om 02:46 schreef Albert Seminatore:
Thought I'd share my experience with the alum radiator.
First I had the OEM radiator boiled cleaned etc.. Then I put in a
flex fan. Finally a 160 degree F thermostat.
Results: Helped a bit but in the summer and in the desert the
temp went to almost 190F.
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Talked to someone who had an alum. in his MGTD. Said it gave him
20% increase in cooling. So being foolish I bought one.
Results: Absolutely NO change. Well it lightened my pocket
book.
=20
Recently talked to a man who made a shroud for his healey and
claimed it made a big difference alng with his Texas Fan (6
bladed).
Results: I started to make the shroud BUT. The fan is not
centered on the radiator. The fan is 1 inch to the left of the
radiator. So the plans for a shroud isn't going to work as is.
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Questions: Is the motor incorrectly mounted causing the
offset?
If I put in an electric fan is it best to
remove the flex fan completely?
Would a four core radiator be of any help?
Should I ignore my fear and let the temp go
to 190F without a worry?
I live in the desert and have to go over a 5000 foot mountain to
get to Las Vegas.
Thanks.............. Al
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Mountain Falls, Pahrump, NV
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<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Subject: Re: alum radiator=
swap</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Datum: 2019-06-03T19:15:05+0200</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Von: "Kees Oudesluijs" <coudesluijs@chello.nl&=
gt;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">An: "Michael MacLean" <rrengineer.mike@att.net=
>, "healeys@autox.team.net" <healeys@autox.team.net>, "Patrick &am=
p; Caroline Quinn" <p_cquinn@tpg.com.au></p>
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<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"> </p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"> </p>
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<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Expensive and an absolutely a waste of money. Coo=
ling will suffer as it does not transfer heat as well as water (the main in=
gredient of coolant) and the heat capacity is lower. The only advantage is =
it will not boil but it does not cool the engine as well as ordinary coolan=
t.</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Anyway, you should correct the source of overheat=
ing which is the only proper way to go. Fighting the symptoms only is not g=
oing to work in the end.</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"> </p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Kees Oudesluijs</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"> </p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"> </p>
<div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">Op 3-6-2019 om 19:04 schreef Michael MacLean=
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<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:p_cquinn@tpg.com.au";><=
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<div id=3D"yiv7708788296">
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<div class=3D"yiv7708788296WordSection1">
<p class=3D"yiv7708788296MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt;">Hell=
o</span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv7708788296MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt;"> &nb=
sp;</span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv7708788296MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt;">I ag=
ree with Kees, 190°F is no big deal. The gauges fitted to Austin-Healey=
s read to </span>230°F and when the needle goes past that is when you s=
hould start worrying.</p>
<p class=3D"yiv7708788296MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=3D"yiv7708788296MsoNormal">Hoo Roo</p>
<p class=3D"yiv7708788296MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=3D"yiv7708788296MsoNormal">Patrick Quinn</p>
<p class=3D"yiv7708788296MsoNormal">Blue Mountains, Australia</p>
<p class=3D"yiv7708788296MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt;"> &nb=
sp;</span></p>
<div id=3D"yiv7708788296yqt93740" class=3D"yiv7708788296yqt7776304027">
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<div style=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt=
0cm 0cm 0cm;">
<p class=3D"yiv7708788296MsoNormal"><strong><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"f=
ont-size: 10.0pt;">From:</span></strong><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-=
size: 10.0pt;"> Healeys [<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"mailto:=
healeys-bounces@autox.team.net">mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] =
<strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Kees Oudesluijs<br clear=3D"none" /><strong>S=
ent:</strong> Monday, 3 June 2019 4:22 PM<br clear=3D"none" /><strong>To:</=
strong> <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.=
team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br clear=3D"none" /><strong>Subject:</=
strong> Re: [Healeys] Subject: Re: alum radiator swap</span></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv7708788296MsoNormal"> </p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">190°F is no big deal, boiling point is well o=
ver 212°F. However check the accuracy of the thermometer to be sure of =
a correct reading.</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Kees Oudesluijs</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"> </p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"> </p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv7708788296MsoNormal">Op 3-6-2019 om 02:46 schreef Albert Sem=
inatore:</p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5.0pt; margin-bottom: 5.0pt;">
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv7708788296MsoNormal">Thought I'd share my experience with th=
e alum radiator.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv7708788296MsoNormal">First I had the OEM radiator boiled cle=
aned etc.. Then I put in a flex fan. Finally a 160 degree F the=
rmostat.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv7708788296MsoNormal"> Results: Helped a bi=
t but in the summer and in the desert the temp went to almost 190F.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv7708788296MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv7708788296MsoNormal">Talked to someone who had an alum. in h=
is MGTD. Said it gave him 20% increase in cooling. So being foo=
lish I bought one.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv7708788296MsoNormal"> Results: Absol=
utely NO change. Well it lightened my pocket book.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv7708788296MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv7708788296MsoNormal">Recently talked to a man who made a shr=
oud for his healey and claimed it made a big difference alng with his Texas=
Fan (6 bladed).</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv7708788296MsoNormal"> Results: =
I started to make the shroud BUT. The fan is not centered on the rad=
iator. The fan is 1 inch to the left of the radiator. So =
the plans for a shroud isn't going to work as is.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv7708788296MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv7708788296MsoNormal"> Question=
s: Is the motor incorrectly mounted causing the offset?</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv7708788296MsoNormal"> &nbs=
p; If I put in an electric fan is=
it best to remove the flex fan completely?</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv7708788296MsoNormal"> &nb=
sp; =
Would a four core radiator be of any help?</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv7708788296MsoNormal"> &nb=
sp;  =
; Should I ignore my fear and let the temp go to 190F wit=
hout a worry?</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv7708788296MsoNormal">I live in the desert and have to go ove=
r a 5000 foot mountain to get to Las Vegas.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv7708788296MsoNormal">Thanks.............. =
Al</p>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv7708788296MsoNormal"><br clear=3D"none" />--</p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv7708788296MsoNormal"><span>Albert Seminatore</span></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv7708788296MsoNormal">Mountain Falls, Pahrump, NV</p>
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