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Re: [Healeys] Four cylinder woes, part two!

To: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Four cylinder woes, part two!
From: Steven Kingsbury via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
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So I now know, I will reorder the guides from Moss Motors and go with the =
non Manganese-Bronze expensive guides and stick with the cheaper/and bette=
r steel ones they sell. I had no idea, if I were going with a new aluminum=
 head, I'd stick with my order, but after reading your article, I'm glad h=
alf of the order was on back order.=C2=A0=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Thank you fo=
r the information and Bill Lawrence, thank you for pointing it out and ale=
rting me to a disaster in the making. Michael, you saved another day. Than=
ks, I appreciate the input and more importantly, the education.=0ASteven=0A=
=0AOn March 13, 2020 at 4:38 PM, Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com> =
wrote:=0A=0A=0ABronze guides...=0Ahttps://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/2007/=
05/15/bronze-giudes-in-cast-iron-cylinder-heads/=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Sat, Mar 14=
, 2020, 12:17 PM Steven Kingsbury via Healeys, <healeys@autox.team.net> wr=
ote:=0A=0AThis is the first I have ever heard about the bronze valve guide=
s being crushed. I had always heard they were the better ones and they are=
 by far the more expensive. Not that money and/or expensive makes somethin=
g better. I have heard though, that they are better, so this is a surprise=
.=C2=A0=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0And yes, I will be checking everything over wi=
th a fine tooth comb all this weekend. With the amount of carbon I found o=
n the valves I am for sure going to be checking the piston rings even thou=
gh the cylinder walls are quite pristine. The reason? Finding less than st=
ellar workmanship in the previous work done of this engine, I just don't t=
rust that the rings were done correctly to begin with and since I'm here, =
I'm going to check.=C2=A0 Peace of mind will be well worth it.=0ASteven=0A=
=0AOn March 13, 2020 at 11:47 AM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <ynotink@msn.com> wro=
te:=0A=0A=0AAnother consideration is whether you have bronze valve guides =
in an iron head. These can cause problems due to the different thermal exp=
ansion rates of the materials. The iron can crush the bronze and cause the=
 valve to stick.=0A=0ABill Lawrence=0ABN1 #554=0A=0AFrom: Healeys <healeys=
-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs@chello.=
nl>=0ASent: Friday, March 13, 2020 8:19:28 AM=0ATo: healeys@autox.team.net=
 <healeys@autox.team.net>=0ASubject: Re: [Healeys] Four cylinder woes, par=
t two!=0A=C2=A0=0A=0AMeasure the bores in several places first. If no sign=
ificant wear is apparent leave the pistons and rings well alone. Also look=
 for ridges near the top of the bores. If they are not present, wear is no=
t very likely. If the bores are fine, piston ring wear is not likely. Valv=
es do rock a bit in the guides. They need to, they expand in the guides wh=
en the engine is running. You may or may not use cap seals on the valve gu=
ides.=0A=0A=0AIf there is wear in the cylinders however have the block reb=
ored and fit new pistons and rings=0A=0A=0ABurning some oil is nothing to =
worry about on the old engines. When new 1ltr per 1000km (about 1 qrt per =
500mls) was quite permissible (after running in during which oil consumpti=
on could be much higher). Check the crank case ventilation system, when di=
rty/blocked it can be a cause of considerable oil consumption. Anyway you =
probably loose most oil leaking. Overfilling the sump is another cause of =
oil consumption as excessive oil will be expelled through the crank case v=
entilation system=0A=0A=0AThe head should be dead straight but the surface=
 does not need to be super smooth. In most causes you can see feel the mil=
ling marks.=0A=0AReplacing the bearing shells and seals is good practice i=
f the bottom end comes apart. Does not cost an arm and a leg and if in tim=
e you will save on grinding the crankshaft. Measure the crank pins in vari=
ous places and check if these are within limits.=0A=0A=0AKees Oudesluijs=0A=
=0A=0A=0A=0AOp 13-3-2020 om 00:29 schreef Steven Kingsbury via Healeys:=0A=
=0ALatest update, took the head to a friend's machine shop and took the va=
lves out. All the intake vales had build up of soft carbon, a sign of burn=
ing oil I was told and I'm going to have to also pull the pistons to redo =
the rings. Fun, but I'm here, so why not? I'm also going to get new valve =
guides pressed in and replace the ones in the head as the valves seem to r=
ock a bit going up and down. The head though is not warped and is straight=
, but I will get it checked out for cracks and resurface the head to make =
it super smooth.=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0I'm also going to drop the pan, and p=
ush the pistons out of the block and replace the rings. And yes, I will pl=
astiguage the crank to make sure it's in good shape and install new rod be=
arings when in there.=C2=A0=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0I am also going to remove =
the tappet cover and take a good, hard, close up look at all the lifters t=
o make sure that's not a problem. Right now, in for a penny, in for a poun=
d. Sterling that is.=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Basically, I'm making sure everyt=
hing is correct this time and then I will have no one but me to blame if i=
t doesn't work. But all in all, it seems pretty simple. So stay tuned for =
further updates as they happen.=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Thanks for all the inp=
ut, suggestions and guesses. This is actually quite the fun project.=0ASte=
ven Kingsbury=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=0A=0AOn March 12, 2020 at 12:38 PM, Jo=
hn Harper <ah100register@gmail.com> wrote:=0A=0A=0AHank=0A=0A=0AThe fact t=
hat number 2 exhaust valve=C2=A0is not the same colour as the others might=
 be a clue. Maybe it is not closing fully? It would be worth checking for =
a stuck valve guide, broken spring or just lost=C2=A0 clearance. A partial=
ly seized rocker is possible but not likely. This may not be the problem b=
ut it would not take much effort to pull the valve out and check for any b=
urning on the working face.=0A=0A=0ABest regards=0A=0A=0AOn Thu, 12 Mar 20=
20 at 18:18, <gradea1@charter.net> wrote:=0A=0AHi Steven-good to hear from=
 you!=0A=0AThat's a nice test, but I would magnaflux the head for cracks b=
etween 2-3 and have it shaved flat..could be a head gasket leak due to war=
ped head...especially if valves and rings checked good.=0A=0AAlso, I don't=
 recommend=C2=A0 NGK plugs- use Champion N-5...maybe cause of carbon on va=
lves. Unless cam is flat, valve spring broken or tappet rods bent/broken, =
problem is in head-block fit.=0A=0ARegards, Hank Leach=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=
-----------------------------------------=0A=0AFrom: "Steven Kingsbury via=
 Healeys"=0ATo: healeys@autox.teamnet=0ACc:=0ASent: Thursday March 12 2020=
 9:40:25AM=0ASubject: [Healeys] Four cylinder woes, part two!=0A=0A=0AOkay=
, here's the latest! I finally got to pull my head If you remember, I had =
155 lbs of pressure in cylinders 1, 3, and 4 and only 25 lbs in cylinder n=
umber two. So with the head off, I was prepared to find a problem with I f=
lipped it over to expose the valves, no such luck. Other than number two e=
xhaust valve being a bit black, no cracks, nothing stuck and it looked fin=
e. So then I went to look into the cylinders themselves, walls smooth, fla=
t high compression pistons smooth, number three a bit rough on the top, bu=
t other than that and good.=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0So then I went back to the=
 head, put the spark plugs back in and filled the combustion chambers with=
 paint thinner to see where it would leak out. Filled each chamber evenly =
and waited. Twelve hours later, and other than evaporation, no leaks! All =
chambers still even in their fluid retention.=C2=A0=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0So=
 then I rotated the crank to get all the pistons to an almost even positio=
n and put paint thinner in the cylinders at the same depth. No quick leak,=
 not one cylinder faster than the others and all the fluid finally drained=
 out smoothly and evenly in each cylinder.=C2=A0=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0I'm a=
 bit stumped. My next step is taking the head to a guy in town, an old mac=
hinist who builds his own engines and runs his car at Bonneville in the 30=
0 mph range. He knows what he's doing and I'm sure he will give me some sa=
ge advice and help. Also as a side note, I went over the head with a magni=
fying glass and can see now cracks, but that doesn't mean they are not the=
re I know. I was just thinking with a 100 pound plus difference, something=
 would be obvious.=C2=A0=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0I am also going to be taking =
off the tappet cover on the side, inspect all the lifters and see what I c=
an find there. Like I said, I'm a bit perplexed, but I'm not done. I will =
find something wrong! Here are some photos for you, maybe you can see some=
thing I can't.=0A=0A=0AHere's the head, upside down and you can see the ex=
haust valve on number two is blacker than the others, but no cracks, chips=
, or visible damage.=0AAnd here's the fluid I placed in the combustion cha=
mbers. It didn't drain out and just sat there.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_____________=
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<html><body><div>So I now know, I will reorder the guides from Moss Motors and 
go with=
 the non Manganese-Bronze expensive guides and stick with the cheaper/and =
better steel ones they sell. I had no idea, if I were going with a new alu=
minum head, I'd stick with my order, but after reading your article, I'm g=
lad half of the order was on back order.&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;Thank you for the information and Bill Lawrence, thank you for pointing i=
t out and alerting me to a disaster in the making. Michael, you saved anot=
her day. Thanks, I appreciate the input and more importantly, the educatio=
n.</div><div>Steven</div><div><br>On March 13, 2020 at 4:38 PM, Michael Sa=
lter &lt;michaelsalter@gmail.com&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"msg-quote"><div dir=3D"auto">Bronze guides...<=
div dir=3D"auto"><a href=3D"https://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/2007/05/15/=
bronze-giudes-in-cast-iron-cylinder-heads/" data-mce-href=3D"https://www.n=
etbug.net/blogmichael/2007/05/15/bronze-giudes-in-cast-iron-cylinder-heads=
/">https://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/2007/05/15/bronze-giudes-in-cast-iro=
n-cylinder-heads/</a><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 12:17 PM Steven King=
sbury via Healeys, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; data-mce-=
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrot=
e:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 .8ex;=
 border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;" data-mce-style=3D"margin=
: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div>T=
his is the first I have ever heard about the bronze valve guides being cru=
shed. I had always heard they were the better ones and they are by far the=
 more expensive. Not that money and/or expensive makes something better. I=
 have heard though, that they are better, so this is a surprise.&nbsp;</di=
v><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;And yes, I will be checking everything over with =
a fine tooth comb all this weekend. With the amount of carbon I found on t=
he valves I am for sure going to be checking the piston rings even though =
the cylinder walls are quite pristine. The reason? Finding less than stell=
ar workmanship in the previous work done of this engine, I just don't trus=
t that the rings were done correctly to begin with and since I'm here, I'm=
 going to check.&nbsp; Peace of mind will be well worth it.</div><div>Stev=
en</div><div><br>On March 13, 2020 at 11:47 AM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:ynotink@msn.com"; data-mce-href=3D"mailto:ynotink@msn.com";>y=
notink@msn.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
<div>Another consideration is whether you have bronze valve guides in an i=
ron head. These can cause problems due to the different thermal expansion =
rates of the materials. The iron can crush the bronze and cause the valve =
to stick.<br> <br> Bill Lawrence<br> BN1 #554<br><hr style=3D"display: inl=
ine-block; width: 98%;" data-mce-style=3D"display: inline-block; width: 98=
%;"><div id=3D"m_982458915621157960divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D=
"font-size: 11pt; color: #000000; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif;" data-m=
ce-style=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: #000000; font-family: Calibri,sans-ser=
if;"><b>From:</b> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team=
.net" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>healeys-boun=
ces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; on behalf of Kees Oudesluijs &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:coudesluijs@chello.nl" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:coudesluijs@chello.nl";>=
coudesluijs@chello.nl</a>&gt;<br> <b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 13, 2020 8:19=
:28 AM<br> <b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; data-mce-h=
ref=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a> &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; data-mce-href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox=
.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys=
] Four cylinder woes, part two!</span><div>&nbsp;</div></div><div><p>Measu=
re the bores in several places first. If no significant wear is apparent l=
eave the pistons and rings well alone. Also look for ridges near the top o=
f the bores. If they are not present, wear is not very likely. If the bore=
s are fine, piston ring wear is not likely. Valves do rock a bit in the gu=
ides. They need to, they expand in the guides when the engine is running. =
You may or may not use cap seals on the valve guides. <br></p><p>If there =
is wear in the cylinders however have the block rebored and fit new piston=
s and rings<br></p><p>Burning some oil is nothing to worry about on the ol=
d engines. When new 1ltr per 1000km (about 1 qrt per 500mls) was quite per=
missible (after running in during which oil consumption could be much high=
er). Check the crank case ventilation system, when dirty/blocked it can be=
 a cause of considerable oil consumption. Anyway you probably loose most o=
il leaking. Overfilling the sump is another cause of oil consumption as ex=
cessive oil will be expelled through the crank case ventilation system<br>=
</p><p>The head should be dead straight but the surface does not need to b=
e super smooth. In most causes you can see feel the milling marks.</p><p>R=
eplacing the bearing shells and seals is good practice if the bottom end c=
omes apart. Does not cost an arm and a leg and if in time you will save on=
 grinding the crankshaft. Measure the crank pins in various places and che=
ck if these are within limits.<br></p><p>Kees Oudesluijs</p><p><br></p><di=
v>Op 13-3-2020 om 00:29 schreef Steven Kingsbury via Healeys:<br></div><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite"><div>Latest update, took the head to a friend's mac=
hine shop and took the valves out. All the intake vales had build up of so=
ft carbon, a sign of burning oil I was told and I'm going to have to also =
pull the pistons to redo the rings. Fun, but I'm here, so why not? I'm als=
o going to get new valve guides pressed in and replace the ones in the hea=
d as the valves seem to rock a bit going up and down. The head though is n=
ot warped and is straight, but I will get it checked out for cracks and re=
surface the head to make it super smooth.</div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I'm =
also going to drop the pan, and push the pistons out of the block and repl=
ace the rings. And yes, I will plastiguage the crank to make sure it's in =
good shape and install new rod bearings when in there.&nbsp;</div><div>&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I am also going to remove the tappet cover and take a good,=
 hard, close up look at all the lifters to make sure that's not a problem.=
 Right now, in for a penny, in for a pound. Sterling that is.</div><div>&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Basically, I'm making sure everything is correct this time=
 and then I will have no one but me to blame if it doesn't work. But all i=
n all, it seems pretty simple. So stay tuned for further updates as they h=
appen.</div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Thanks for all the input, suggestions a=
nd guesses. This is actually quite the fun project.</div><div>Steven Kings=
bury</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div><br> On March 12, 2020 at 12:=
38 PM, John Harper <a href=3D"mailto:ah100register@gmail.com"; data-mce-hre=
f=3D"mailto:ah100register@gmail.com";> &lt;ah100register@gmail.com&gt;</a> =
wrote:<br> <br></div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
Hank<div><br></div><div>The fact that number 2 exhaust valve&nbsp;is not t=
he same colour as the others might be a clue. Maybe it is not closing full=
y? It would be worth checking for a stuck valve guide, broken spring or ju=
st lost&nbsp; clearance. A partially seized rocker is possible but not lik=
ely. This may not be the problem but it would not take much effort to pull=
 the valve out and check for any burning on the working face.</div><div><b=
r></div><div>Best regards</div></div><br><div><div dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, 12 =
Mar 2020 at 18:18, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gradea1@charter.net"; data-mce-hre=
f=3D"mailto:gradea1@charter.net";>gradea1@charter.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></d=
iv><blockquote style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid =
#cccccc; padding-left: 1ex;" data-mce-style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; =
border-left: 1px solid #cccccc; padding-left: 1ex;"><div>Hi Steven-good to=
 hear from you!<p>That's a nice test, but I would magnaflux the head for c=
racks between 2-3 and have it shaved flat..could be a head gasket leak due=
 to warped head...especially if valves and rings checked good.</p><p>Also,=
 I don't recommend&nbsp; NGK plugs- use Champion N-5...maybe cause of carb=
on on valves. Unless cam is flat, valve spring broken or tappet rods bent/=
broken, problem is in head-block fit.</p><p>Regards, Hank Leach<br> <br></=
p><div><br></div><p>-----------------------------------------</p>From: "St=
even Kingsbury via Healeys" <br> To: <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.teamn=
et" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.teamnet";>healeys@autox.teamnet</=
a><br> Cc: <br> Sent: Thursday March 12 2020 9:40:25AM<br> Subject: [Heale=
ys] Four cylinder woes, part two!<br> <br><div><div style=3D"color: #00000=
0; font-family: SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:=
 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-ca=
ps: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; t=
ext-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: =
0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;" data=
-mce-style=3D"color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helve=
tica,sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatur=
es: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: n=
ormal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-sp=
ace: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decor=
ation-color: initial;">Okay, here's the latest! I finally got to pull my h=
ead If you remember, I had 155 lbs of pressure in cylinders 1, 3, and 4 an=
d only 25 lbs in cylinder number two. So with the head off, I was prepared=
 to find a problem with I flipped it over to expose the valves, no such lu=
ck. Other than number two exhaust valve being a bit black, no cracks, noth=
ing stuck and it looked fine. So then I went to look into the cylinders th=
emselves, walls smooth, flat high compression pistons smooth, number three=
 a bit rough on the top, but other than that and good.</div><div style=3D"=
color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,sans-seri=
f; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; fo=
nt-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; text-al=
ign: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; w=
ord-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: i=
nitial;" data-mce-style=3D"color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText,'Helvetic=
a Neue',Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-va=
riant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; lett=
er-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: n=
one; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-style: initia=
l; text-decoration-color: initial;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;So then I went back =
to the head, put the spark plugs back in and filled the combustion chamber=
s with paint thinner to see where it would leak out. Filled each chamber e=
venly and waited. Twelve hours later, and other than evaporation, no leaks=
! All chambers still even in their fluid retention.&nbsp;</div><div style=3D=
"color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,sans-ser=
if; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; f=
ont-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; text-a=
lign: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: =
initial;" data-mce-style=3D"color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText,'Helveti=
ca Neue',Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-v=
ariant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; let=
ter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-style: initi=
al; text-decoration-color: initial;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;So then I rotated t=
he crank to get all the pistons to an almost even position and put paint t=
hinner in the cylinders at the same depth. No quick leak, not one cylinder=
 faster than the others and all the fluid finally drained out smoothly and=
 evenly in each cylinder.&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"color: #000000; font-fa=
mily: SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 15px; fon=
t-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal=
; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent=
: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-=
decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;" data-mce-style=
=3D"color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,sans-=
serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal=
; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; tex=
t-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: norma=
l; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-colo=
r: initial;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I'm a bit stumped. My next step is taking t=
he head to a guy in town, an old machinist who builds his own engines and =
runs his car at Bonneville in the 300 mph range. He knows what he's doing =
and I'm sure he will give me some sage advice and help. Also as a side not=
e, I went over the head with a magnifying glass and can see now cracks, bu=
t that doesn't mean they are not there I know. I was just thinking with a =
100 pound plus difference, something would be obvious.&nbsp;</div><div sty=
le=3D"color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,san=
s-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: norm=
al; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; t=
ext-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: nor=
mal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-co=
lor: initial;" data-mce-style=3D"color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText,'He=
lvetica Neue',Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; f=
ont-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300=
; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transf=
orm: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-style: =
initial; text-decoration-color: initial;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I am also goin=
g to be taking off the tappet cover on the side, inspect all the lifters a=
nd see what I can find there. Like I said, I'm a bit perplexed, but I'm no=
t done. I will find something wrong! Here are some photos for you, maybe y=
ou can see something I can't.</div><div style=3D"color: #000000; font-fami=
ly: SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-=
style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-de=
coration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;" data-mce-style=3D=
"color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,sans-ser=
if; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; f=
ont-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; text-a=
lign: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: =
initial;"><br></div><div style=3D"color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText,'H=
elvetica Neue',Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 30=
0; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-trans=
form: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-style:=
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0; font-family: SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:=
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ps: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; t=
ext-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: =
0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;"><img=
 alt=3D"IMG_20200311_143602.jpg" title=3D"IMG_20200311_143602.jpg" style=3D=
"margin: 10px 10px 10px 0px;" src=3D"http:///index.php/inbox/attachment/fi=
lenameOriginal/IMG_20200311_143602.jpg/filenamefs/INBOX37806df7c51cc87def1=
2df6be1eff39641fa0" data-mce-src=3D"http://www.icloud.com/index.php/inbox/=
attachment/filenameOriginal/IMG_20200311_143602.jpg/filenamefs/INBOX37806d=
f7c51cc87def12df6be1eff39641fa0" data-mce-style=3D"margin: 10px 10px 10px =
0px;"></div><div style=3D"color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText,'Helvetica=
 Neue',Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-var=
iant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; lette=
r-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: no=
ne; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial=
; text-decoration-color: initial;" data-mce-style=3D"color: #000000; font-=
family: SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 15px; f=
ont-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: norm=
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nt: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; tex=
t-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;">Here's the h=
ead, upside down and you can see the exhaust valve on number two is blacke=
r than the others, but no cracks, chips, or visible damage.</div><div styl=
e=3D"color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,sans=
-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: norma=
l; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; te=
xt-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: norm=
al; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-col=
or: initial;" data-mce-style=3D"color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText,'Hel=
vetica Neue',Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; fo=
nt-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 300;=
 letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transfo=
rm: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-style: i=
nitial; text-decoration-color: initial;"><img alt=3D"IMG_20200311_172123.j=
pg" title=3D"IMG_20200311_172123.jpg" style=3D"margin: 10px 10px 10px 0px;=
" src=3D"http:///index.php/inbox/attachment/filenameOriginal/IMG_20200311_=
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IMG_20200311_172123.jpg/filenamefs/INBOX378063dbbf369419c0843730f10637ee24=
93c" data-mce-style=3D"margin: 10px 10px 10px 0px;"></div><div style=3D"co=
lor: #000000; font-family: SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,sans-serif;=
 font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font=
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n: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; wor=
d-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: ini=
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e; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-style: initial;=
 text-decoration-color: initial;">And here's the fluid I placed in the com=
bustion chambers. It didn't drain out and just sat there.</div></div><p><b=
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