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Sounds about right.=C2=A0 No use spending money where it's not needed.=C2=
=A0 Doesn't mean you shouldn't check while it's open though.Mike M
On Thursday, March 12, 2020, 5:19:19 PM PDT, Steven Kingsbury <airtight=
productions@icloud.com> wrote: =20
=20
I've got a guy who builds engines for Bonneville advising me, so if he say=
s, hone the cylinders, I will, if he says they look fine, I'm going to take=
his word for it. As far as the clutch, the little I did drive her, that fe=
lt really good and if I'm going to do the clutch, I will pull the transmiss=
ion through the cockpit and do it that way. Done that before and that's jus=
t a day job.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0As far as everything else, no leaks so =
why take things apart when they're not leaking? Rocker assembly seemed actu=
ally nice and tight and solid, so the etc, etc, etc will be done if needed,=
if not needed, it won't. I'm not going half ass, but I'm also not creating=
work just because I'm here. Now if I find the crank is a mess, well then, =
that's a whole new ball game and it will be dealt with. And since we don't =
have any ball games left right now, it will still be fun.Steven Kingsbury
On March 12, 2020 at 4:32 PM, Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net> wro=
te:
Not honing the cylinders?=C2=A0 While it's apart, how old is the clutch?=C2=
=A0 Rocker assembly?=C2=A0 Thrust rings?=C2=A0 Seals. front and rear, etc.,=
etc.
Mike MacLean
On Thursday, March 12, 2020, 4:29:26 PM PDT, Steven Kingsbury via Healeys <=
healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
Latest update, took the head to a friend's machine shop and took the valves=
out. All the intake vales had build up of soft carbon, a sign of burning o=
il I was told and I'm going to have to also pull the pistons to redo the ri=
ngs. Fun, but I'm here, so why not? I'm also going to get new valve guides =
pressed in and replace the ones in the head as the valves seem to rock a bi=
t going up and down. The head though is not warped and is straight, but I w=
ill get it checked out for cracks and resurface the head to make it super s=
mooth.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0I'm also going to drop the pan, and push the piston=
s out of the block and replace the rings. And yes, I will plastiguage the c=
rank to make sure it's in good shape and install new rod bearings when in t=
here.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0I am also going to remove the tappet cover and=
take a good, hard, close up look at all the lifters to make sure that's no=
t a problem. Right now, in for a penny, in for a pound. Sterling that is.=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Basically, I'm making sure everything is correct this tim=
e and then I will have no one but me to blame if it doesn't work. But all i=
n all, it seems pretty simple. So stay tuned for further updates as they ha=
ppen.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Thanks for all the input, suggestions and guesses. T=
his is actually quite the fun project.Steven Kingsbury=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0
On March 12, 2020 at 12:38 PM, John Harper <ah100register@gmail.com> wrote:
Hank
The fact that number 2 exhaust valve=C2=A0is not the same colour as the oth=
ers might be a clue. Maybe it is not closing fully? It would be worth check=
ing for a stuck valve guide, broken spring or just lost=C2=A0 clearance. A =
partially seized rocker is possible but not likely. This may not be the pro=
blem but it would not take much effort to pull the valve out and check for =
any burning on the working face.
Best regards
On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 18:18, <gradea1@charter.net> wrote:
Hi Steven-good to hear from you!
That's a nice test, but I would magnaflux the head for cracks between 2-3 a=
nd have it shaved flat..could be a head gasket leak due to warped head...es=
pecially if valves and rings checked good.
Also, I don't recommend=C2=A0 NGK plugs- use Champion N-5...maybe cause of =
carbon on valves. Unless cam is flat, valve spring broken or tappet rods be=
nt/broken, problem is in head-block fit.
Regards, Hank Leach
-----------------------------------------
From: "Steven Kingsbury via Healeys"=20
To: healeys@autox.teamnet
Cc:=20
Sent: Thursday March 12 2020 9:40:25AM
Subject: [Healeys] Four cylinder woes, part two!
Okay, here's the latest! I finally got to pull my head If you remember, I h=
ad 155 lbs of pressure in cylinders 1, 3, and 4 and only 25 lbs in cylinder=
number two. So with the head off, I was prepared to find a problem with I =
flipped it over to expose the valves, no such luck. Other than number two e=
xhaust valve being a bit black, no cracks, nothing stuck and it looked fine=
. So then I went to look into the cylinders themselves, walls smooth, flat =
high compression pistons smooth, number three a bit rough on the top, but o=
ther than that and good.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0So then I went back to the head, =
put the spark plugs back in and filled the combustion chambers with paint t=
hinner to see where it would leak out. Filled each chamber evenly and waite=
d. Twelve hours later, and other than evaporation, no leaks! All chambers s=
till even in their fluid retention.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0So then I rotate=
d the crank to get all the pistons to an almost even position and put paint=
thinner in the cylinders at the same depth. No quick leak, not one cylinde=
r faster than the others and all the fluid finally drained out smoothly and=
evenly in each cylinder.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0I'm a bit stumped. My next=
step is taking the head to a guy in town, an old machinist who builds his =
own engines and runs his car at Bonneville in the 300 mph range. He knows w=
hat he's doing and I'm sure he will give me some sage advice and help. Also=
as a side note, I went over the head with a magnifying glass and can see n=
ow cracks, but that doesn't mean they are not there I know. I was just thin=
king with a 100 pound plus difference, something would be obvious.=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0I am also going to be taking off the tappet cover on the sid=
e, inspect all the lifters and see what I can find there. Like I said, I'm =
a bit perplexed, but I'm not done. I will find something wrong! Here are so=
me photos for you, maybe you can see something I can't.
Here's the head, upside down and you can see the exhaust valve on number tw=
o is blacker than the others, but no cracks, chips, or visible damage.And h=
ere's the fluid I placed in the combustion chambers. It didn't drain out an=
d just sat there.
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use spending money where it's not needed. Doesn't mean you shouldn't=
check while it's open though.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">=
Mike M<br></div><div><br></div>
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On Thursday, March 12, 2020, 5:19:19 PM PDT, Steven Kin=
gsbury <airtightproductions@icloud.com> wrote:
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<div><div id=3D"yiv6438356373"><div><div>I've got a guy who=
builds engines for Bonneville advising me, so if he says, hone the cylinde=
rs, I will, if he says they look fine, I'm going to take his word for it. A=
s far as the clutch, the little I did drive her, that felt really good and =
if I'm going to do the clutch, I will pull the transmission through the coc=
kpit and do it that way. Done that before and that's just a day job. <=
/div><div> As far as everything else, no leaks so why take=
things apart when they're not leaking? Rocker assembly seemed actually nic=
e and tight and solid, so the etc, etc, etc will be done if needed, if not =
needed, it won't. I'm not going half ass, but I'm also not creating work ju=
st because I'm here. Now if I find the crank is a mess, well then, that's a=
whole new ball game and it will be dealt with. And since we don't have any=
ball games left right now, it will still be fun.</div><div>Steven Kingsbur=
y</div><div><br>On March 12, 2020 at 4:32 PM, Michael MacLean <rrenginee=
r.mike@att.net> wrote:<br><br></div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div =
class=3D"yiv6438356373msg-quote"><div class=3D"yiv6438356373ydpb203a435yaho=
o-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;=
font-size:16px;"><div><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Not honing the cylinders?&=
nbsp; While it's apart, how old is the clutch? Rocker assembly? =
Thrust rings? Seals. front and rear, etc., etc.<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Mike MacLean<br></div><div><br></div></div=
><div id=3D"yiv6438356373yahoo_quoted_4280499502" class=3D"yiv6438356373yah=
oo_quoted"><div style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sa=
ns-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;"><div>On Thursday, March 12, 2020, 4=
:29:26 PM PDT, Steven Kingsbury via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net> =
wrote:</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div id=3D"yiv6438356373"><d=
iv><div>Latest update, took the head to a friend's machine shop and took th=
e valves out. All the intake vales had build up of soft carbon, a sign of b=
urning oil I was told and I'm going to have to also pull the pistons to red=
o the rings. Fun, but I'm here, so why not? I'm also going to get new valve=
guides pressed in and replace the ones in the head as the valves seem to r=
ock a bit going up and down. The head though is not warped and is straight,=
but I will get it checked out for cracks and resurface the head to make it=
super smooth.</div><div> I'm also going to drop the pan, =
and push the pistons out of the block and replace the rings. And yes, I wil=
l plastiguage the crank to make sure it's in good shape and install new rod=
bearings when in there. </div><div> I am also going =
to remove the tappet cover and take a good, hard, close up look at all the =
lifters to make sure that's not a problem. Right now, in for a penny, in fo=
r a pound. Sterling that is.</div><div> Basically, I'm mak=
ing sure everything is correct this time and then I will have no one but me=
to blame if it doesn't work. But all in all, it seems pretty simple. So st=
ay tuned for further updates as they happen.</div><div> Th=
anks for all the input, suggestions and guesses. This is actually quite the=
fun project.</div><div>Steven Kingsbury</div><div> </div=
><div class=3D"yiv6438356373yqt7376103525" id=3D"yiv6438356373yqt91169"><di=
v><br clear=3D"none">On March 12, 2020 at 12:38 PM, John Harper <ah100re=
gister@gmail.com> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div=
><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"yiv6438356373msg-quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Hank<div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>The fact that number 2 exha=
ust valve is not the same colour as the others might be a clue. Maybe =
it is not closing fully? It would be worth checking for a stuck valve guide=
, broken spring or just lost clearance. A partially seized rocker is =
possible but not likely. This may not be the problem but it would not take =
much effort to pull the valve out and check for any burning on the working =
face.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Best regards</div></div><br c=
lear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yiv6438356373gmail_quote"><div class=3D"yiv6438=
356373gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 18:18, <<a rel=3D"n=
ofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:gradea1@charter.net"; target=3D"_b=
lank" href=3D"mailto:gradea1@charter.net";>gradea1@charter.net</a>> wrote=
:<br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote class=3D"yiv6438356373gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #cccccc;padding-left:=
1ex;"><div>Hi Steven-good to hear from you!<p>That's a nice test, but I wou=
ld magnaflux the head for cracks between 2-3 and have it shaved flat..could=
be a head gasket leak due to warped head...especially if valves and rings =
checked good.</p><p>Also, I don't recommend NGK plugs- use Champion N=
-5...maybe cause of carbon on valves. Unless cam is flat, valve spring brok=
en or tappet rods bent/broken, problem is in head-block fit.</p><p>Regards,=
Hank Leach<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></p><div><br clear=3D"none=
"></div><p>-----------------------------------------</p>From: "Steven Kings=
bury via Healeys" <u></u><br clear=3D"none">To: <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=
=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.teamnet"; target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.teamnet";>healeys@autox.teamnet</a><br clear=3D"non=
e">Cc: <br clear=3D"none">Sent: Thursday March 12 2020 9:40:25AM<br clear=
=3D"none">Subject: [Healeys] Four cylinder woes, part two!<br clear=3D"none=
"><br clear=3D"none"><div><div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:SFNSText,=
'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;f=
ont-weight:300;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;wh=
ite-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-color:initial;">Okay, her=
e's the latest! I finally got to pull my head If you remember, I had 155 lb=
s of pressure in cylinders 1, 3, and 4 and only 25 lbs in cylinder number t=
wo. So with the head off, I was prepared to find a problem with I flipped i=
t over to expose the valves, no such luck. Other than number two exhaust va=
lve being a bit black, no cracks, nothing stuck and it looked fine. So then=
I went to look into the cylinders themselves, walls smooth, flat high comp=
ression pistons smooth, number three a bit rough on the top, but other than=
that and good.</div><div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:SFNSText, 'Hel=
vetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-w=
eight:300;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-s=
pace:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-color:initial;"> &n=
bsp;So then I went back to the head, put the spark plugs back in and filled=
the combustion chambers with paint thinner to see where it would leak out.=
Filled each chamber evenly and waited. Twelve hours later, and other than =
evaporation, no leaks! All chambers still even in their fluid retention.&nb=
sp;</div><div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:SFNSText, 'Helvetica Neue'=
, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-weight:300;le=
tter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;=
word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-color:initial;"> So then =
I rotated the crank to get all the pistons to an almost even position and p=
ut paint thinner in the cylinders at the same depth. No quick leak, not one=
cylinder faster than the others and all the fluid finally drained out smoo=
thly and evenly in each cylinder. </div><div style=3D"color:#000000;fo=
nt-family:SFNSText, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:15px;=
font-style:normal;font-weight:300;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;tex=
t-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-color:=
initial;"> I'm a bit stumped. My next step is taking the h=
ead to a guy in town, an old machinist who builds his own engines and runs =
his car at Bonneville in the 300 mph range. He knows what he's doing and I'=
m sure he will give me some sage advice and help. Also as a side note, I we=
nt over the head with a magnifying glass and can see now cracks, but that d=
oesn't mean they are not there I know. I was just thinking with a 100 pound=
plus difference, something would be obvious. </div><div style=3D"colo=
r:#000000;font-family:SFNSText, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;fon=
t-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-weight:300;letter-spacing:normal;text-in=
dent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decor=
ation-color:initial;"> I am also going to be taking off th=
e tappet cover on the side, inspect all the lifters and see what I can find=
there. Like I said, I'm a bit perplexed, but I'm not done. I will find som=
ething wrong! Here are some photos for you, maybe you can see something I c=
an't.</div><div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:SFNSText, 'Helvetica Neu=
e', Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-weight:300;=
letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:norma=
l;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-color:initial;"><br clear=3D"none"></div=
><div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:SFNSText, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvet=
ica, sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-weight:300;letter-spa=
cing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spa=
cing:0px;text-decoration-color:initial;"><img src=3D"http:///index.php/inbo=
x/attachment/filenameOriginal/IMG_20200311_143602.jpg/filenamefs/INBOX37806=
df7c51cc87def12df6be1eff39641fa0" alt=3D"IMG_20200311_143602.jpg" title=3D"=
IMG_20200311_143602.jpg" style=3D"margin:10px 10px 10px 0px;"></div><div st=
yle=3D"color:#000000;font-family:SFNSText, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, san=
s-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-weight:300;letter-spacing:nor=
mal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px=
;text-decoration-color:initial;">Here's the head, upside down and you can s=
ee the exhaust valve on number two is blacker than the others, but no crack=
s, chips, or visible damage.</div><div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:S=
FNSText, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:=
normal;font-weight:300;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform=
:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-color:initial;"><=
img src=3D"http:///index.php/inbox/attachment/filenameOriginal/IMG_20200311=
_172123.jpg/filenamefs/INBOX378063dbbf369419c0843730f10637ee2493c" alt=3D"I=
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ont-weight:300;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;wh=
ite-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-color:initial;">And here'=
s the fluid I placed in the combustion chambers. It didn't drain out and ju=
st sat there.</div></div><u></u><p><br clear=3D"none"></p></div>___________=
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