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To: Tom Mitchell <drtommitch@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] wheel
From: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2021 13:08:30 -0500
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I also found it easier to pull a light messenger line up through the stator
via a fish tape from the top rather than trying to manipulate the tape from
the bottom end.

Best--Michael Oritt

On Sun, Jan 3, 2021, 12:58 PM Tom Mitchell <drtommitch@gmail.com> wrote:

> One point (btw I agree with cutting and replacing the bullet ends is easy
> and safer) is that if you try to force the connectors you stand the risk =
of
> expanding the tube.
> I didn't this by attaching a wire and pulling the wires through. I didn't
> notice the damage until later. The results is a sloppy trafficator.
> Course another set of eyes and hands don't hurt
>
> Tom
>
> Dr. Tom Mitchell
>
> On Sun, Jan 3, 2021, 12:37 PM Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> "Possibly the hardest part (Plan A) is feeding the harness wires back
>> through the lower portion of the stator tube to replace the wheel/hub."
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> I was prepared for a real struggle and since I did not like the conditio=
n
>> of the electrical connectors I decided to cut them off and use new
>> ones once I pulled the wires down through the stator tube.
>> This made everything easy and to anyone who has difficulty in pulling th=
e
>> wires with connectors in place please consider cutting them off and
>> renewing them as I did.
>>
>> Best--Michael Oritt
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 12:10 AM Bruce Steele <healeybruce@roadrunner.com=
>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If you do pull the harness out of the stator, I use a rubber stopper to
>>> plug the orifice in the box to keep the lube in the box.  When I=E2=80=
=99m ready to
>>> run the harness back down the stator, I run a fish tape up from the box=
,
>>> tie on the leads, appropriately staggered to allow for clearance throug=
h
>>> the stator, and pull them through.  It=E2=80=99s messy.  Unless you REA=
LLY need to
>>> remove the wheel, just work around it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bruce Steele
>>>
>>> Brea, CA
>>>
>>> 1960 BN7
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *=
Richard
>>> Kahn
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:31 PM
>>> *To:* Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>; healeys@autox.team.net
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] wheel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Attach a string or wire to the wires you pull through the stator tube.
>>> You can stagger the wires to aid in sliding them back through. If possi=
ble,
>>> you may be able to just pull the wheel to the side, leaving it connecte=
d
>>> after you get the trafficator off.
>>>
>>> I would not mess with the steering box if you don't have to. I have jus=
t
>>> "unwired" the trafficator and pull the wheel off.  Just be sure you not=
e
>>> which wire connects where they came from. I've done this a few times.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rich
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Bob
>>> Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 2, 2021 5:27 PM
>>> *To:* healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] wheel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The wheel is a piece of cake (single large snap ring). The trafficator,
>>> which has to be removed first, is a real PITA. The usual 'technique' is=
 to
>>> disconnect the trafficator harness at the front of the car,and pull the
>>> movable part out. But, it's possible, if you have enough slack in the
>>> harness, to pull the top part of the stator tube out and disconnect the
>>> wiring at the hub (take lots of photos). All things considered, I think
>>> Plan A is the least hassle; drain the steering box first (you'll lose m=
ost
>>> of the fluid anyway when you loosen the olive). Plan B involves messing
>>> with a lot of small, non-standard screws, which have a tendency to
>>> evaporate.
>>>
>>> Possibly the hardest part (Plan A) is feeding the harness wires back
>>> through the lower portion of the stator tube to replace the wheel/hub.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>> On 1/2/2021 2:55 PM, Mike Sinclair wrote:
>>>
>>> How much trouble is it to remove the steering wheel on a BJ8?  And how
>>> much trouble to put it back?  I just want it out of the way temporarily=
.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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<div dir=3D"auto">I also found it easier to pull a light messenger line up =
through the stator via a fish tape from the top rather than trying to manip=
ulate the tape from the bottom end.=C2=A0=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div>=
<div dir=3D"auto">Best--Michael Oritt</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jan 3, 2021, 12:58 PM To=
m Mitchell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:drtommitch@gmail.com";>drtommitch@gmail.com=
</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">O=
ne point (btw I agree with cutting and replacing the bullet ends is easy an=
d safer) is that if you try to force the connectors you stand the risk of e=
xpanding the tube.=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto">I didn&#39;t this by attaching a =
wire and pulling the wires through. I didn&#39;t notice the damage until la=
ter. The results is a sloppy trafficator.</div><div dir=3D"auto">Course ano=
ther set of eyes and hands don&#39;t hurt<br><br>Tom</div><div dir=3D"auto"=
><br><div data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature" dir=3D"auto">Dr. Tom Mitchell =
</div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"=
gmail_attr">On Sun, Jan 3, 2021, 12:37 PM Michael Oritt &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:michael.oritt@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">michael.or=
itt@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><span style=
=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-siz=
e:16px">&quot;Possibly the hardest part (Plan A) is feeding the harness wir=
es back through the lower portion of the stator tube to replace the wheel/h=
ub.&quot;</span><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333=
ff"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;=
,serif;font-size:16px">----------------------------------------------------=
------</span></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><sp=
an style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;=
font-size:16px">I was prepared for a real struggle and since I did not like=
 the condition of the electrical connectors=C2=A0I decided to cut them off =
and use new ones=C2=A0once I pulled the wires down through the stator tube.=
</span></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><span sty=
le=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-s=
ize:16px">This made everything easy and to anyone who has difficulty in pul=
ling the wires with connectors in place please consider cutting them off an=
d renewing them as I did.</span></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D=
"color:#3333ff"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:&quot;Times New=
 Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:16px"><br></span></div><div class=3D"gmail_def=
ault" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:&=
quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:16px">Best--Michael Oritt</span>=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><span style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:16p=
x"><br></span></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" c=
lass=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 12:10 AM Bruce Steele &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:healeybruce@roadrunner.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" targe=
t=3D"_blank">healeybruce@roadrunner.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote=
 class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px so=
lid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US"><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"=
>If you do pull the harness out of the stator, I use a rubber stopper to pl=
ug the orifice in the box to keep the lube in the box.=C2=A0 When I=E2=80=
=99m ready to run the harness back down the stator, I run a fish tape up fr=
om the box, tie on the leads, appropriately staggered to allow for clearanc=
e through the stator, and pull them through.=C2=A0 It=E2=80=99s messy.=C2=
=A0 Unless you REALLY need to remove the wheel, just work around it.=C2=A0 =
<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:=
&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sa=
ns-serif">Bruce Steele<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">Brea, CA<u></u><=
u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">1960 BN7<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-se=
rif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div><div style=3D"border-right:none;bo=
rder-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);pad=
ding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;f=
ont-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11p=
t;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:healey=
s-bounces@autox.team.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">h=
ealeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Richard Kahn<br><b>S=
ent:</b> Saturday, January 02, 2021 6:31 PM<br><b>To:</b> Bob Spidell &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=
=3D"_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>&gt;; <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.t=
eam.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team=
.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] wheel<u></u><u></u></span></p></d=
iv></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">Attach =
a string or wire to the wires you pull through the stator tube. You can sta=
gger the wires to aid in sliding them back through. If possible, you may be=
 able to just pull the wheel to the side, leaving it connected after you ge=
t the trafficator off.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">I would no=
t mess with the steering box if you don&#39;t have to. I have just &quot;un=
wired&quot; the trafficator and pull the wheel off.=C2=A0 Just be sure you =
note which wire connects where they came from. I&#39;ve done this a few tim=
es.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></sp=
an></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri=
,sans-serif;color:black">Rich<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div class=3D"M=
soNormal" align=3D"center" style=3D"text-align:center"><hr size=3D"2" width=
=3D"98%" align=3D"center"></div><div id=3D"m_-8779191228773421169m_77520598=
56981993471gmail-m_-3332687527899881672divRplyFwdMsg"><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:bla=
ck">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-=
serif;color:black"> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.tea=
m.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@auto=
x.team.net</a>&gt; on behalf of Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@=
comcast.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">bspidell@comca=
st.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, January 2, 2021 5:27 PM<br><b>To:<=
/b> <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer"=
 target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys=
@autox.team.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys@au=
tox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] wheel</span> <u></u><=
u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt">The wheel is a piec=
e of cake (single large snap ring). The trafficator, which has to be remove=
d first, is a real PITA. The usual &#39;technique&#39; is to disconnect the=
 trafficator harness at the front of the car,and pull the movable part out.=
 But, it&#39;s possible, if you have enough slack in the harness, to pull t=
he top part of the stator tube out and disconnect the wiring at the hub (ta=
ke lots of photos). All things considered, I think Plan A is the least hass=
le; drain the steering box first (you&#39;ll lose most of the fluid anyway =
when you loosen the olive). Plan B involves messing with a lot of small, no=
n-standard screws, which have a tendency to evaporate.<br><br>Possibly the =
hardest part (Plan A) is feeding the harness wires back through the lower p=
ortion of the stator tube to replace the wheel/hub.<br><br>Bob<u></u><u></u=
></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 1/2/2021 2:55 PM, Mike Sinclair wrote:<=
u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5p=
t"><p><span style=3D"font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">How much trouble is it =
to remove the steering wheel on a BJ8?=C2=A0 And how much trouble to put it=
 back?=C2=A0 I just want it out of the way temporarily.=C2=A0 </span><u></u=
><u></u></p><p><span style=3D"font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">Mike</span><u>=
</u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></blockquote>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div></div></div></div>____=
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