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Re: [Healeys] 6 cylinder engine washers

To: "'Michael Salter'" <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 6 cylinder engine washers
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Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2021 21:21:51 +0000 eMVkDHr9I0Y88lKsDwY19r4Sxf9WMQtLBLE5SW3fBuYggWstAvfYfbUYHp6huchjjYnyatjct1PFNBgKLfq5zJjMfR19lIGXdpS49MIsf5CLQQYYI8w+hjjJ
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=0AI agree with Ira-production shortage-there were more than one supplie=
r=0Apunching out these washers for the British auto industry using=0Adif=
ferent jigs. Back then they didn't care what the shape was, but=0Athey d=
esperately needed to ship cars to recover from the war. Mix and=0Amatch=
 was the order of the day. =0AHere is a quote from my article about Aust=
in from BMC Chief Leonard=0ALord: After the war, the economy in Britain=
 was also in ruins. Efforts=0Aby the government to improve it, only adde=
d restrictions to automobile=0Amanufacturing. It was a desperate time fo=
r Austin, and Lord decreed:=0A"Get the stuff in by hook or crook...just=
 get it in." So many=0Amaterials were in demand but the scarce supply af=
fected production and=0Aprofits. Hank=0A=0A=09--------------------------=
---------------From: "Michael Salter" =0ATo: "Skip Saunders"=0ACc: "heal=
eylist"=0ASent: Sunday January 3 2021 12:54:26PM=0ASubject: Re: [Healeys=
] 6 cylinder engine detail=0A=0A  Good observation Skip and one that mad=
e me go back and look again ..=0A=0A  As you can see the sides of one of=
 the 2 odd washers (both are the=0Asame) are absolutely parallel.=0A It=
 would take someone with a lot of skill to shear the sides off=0Aindivid=
ually to achieve that degree of accuracy on both washers and=0Areally ..=
. would anyone go to that much effort?=0A=0A  Additionally the washers h=
ave been punched out, not ground or filed=0Ato size as is evident from t=
he shear marks on the sides. =0A I realize that this is totally insignif=
icant in the scheme of things=0Abut being a very poor sleeper I tend to=
 stay awake at night and think=0Aabout these things. :-) =0A I have foun=
d that there is usually a good explanation for these=0Athings but this h=
as me stumped. =0A Please ... help me get a good night's sleep.=0A=0A M=
=0A=0A On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 1:28 PM Skip Saunders  wrote:=0A  Judging=
 by the curvature of the washers, the five appear to be of=0Athe origina=
l manufactured type. The two appear to be regular washers=0Athat have be=
en ground down to fit in the narrow channel. Do you see=0Athe same dispa=
rity among washers in the oil pan (it too uses those=0Atypes of narrow c=
hannel compatible washers I believe.) Thanks -skip-  =0A On Sun, Jan 3,=
 2021 at 12:57 PM Michael Salter  wrote:=0A  I'm working on an early 300=
0 engine and have found these 2 different=0Atypes of  __________________=
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<html><body><br>I agree with Ira-production shortage-there were more tha=
n one supplier punching out these washers for the British auto industry=
 using different jigs. Back then they didn't care what the shape was, bu=
t they desperately needed to ship cars to recover from the war. Mix and=
 match was the order of the day.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Here is a quot=
e from my article about Austin from BMC Chief Leonard Lord:&nbsp; After=
 the war, the economy in Britain was also in ruins. Efforts by the gover=
nment to improve=0Ait, only added restrictions to automobile manufacturi=
ng. It was a desperate time for Austin,=0Aand Lord decreed: "Get the stu=
ff in by hook or crook...just get it in." So many materials were=0Ain de=
mand but the scarce supply affected production and profits.</div><div>&n=
bsp;</div><div>Hank<br><div class=3D"reply-new-signature"></div><p>-----=
------------------------------------</p>From: "Michael Salter" <michaels=
alter@gmail.com><br>To: "Skip Saunders"<br>Cc: "healeylist"<br>Sent: Sun=
day January 3 2021 12:54:26PM<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] 6 cylinder engin=
e detail<br><br>=0A<div dir=3D"ltr">=0A<div class=3D"gmail_default" styl=
e=3D"font-family:'comic sans ms', sans-serif;font-size:small;">Good=0Aob=
servation Skip and one that made me go back and look again=0A..</div>=0A=
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:'comic sans ms', sans-=
serif;font-size:small;"><br></div>=0A<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:'comic sans ms', sans-serif;font-size:small;"><img src=
=3D"/index.php/inbox/attachment/filenameOriginal/image.png/filenamefs/IN=
BOX44176f2c9dea0da34ccd23102a1ae355639df" alt=3D"image.png" width=3D"309=
" height=3D"559"></div>=0A<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fam=
ily:'comic sans ms', sans-serif;font-size:small;">As you can=0Asee the s=
ides of one of the 2 odd washers (both are the same) are=0Aabsolutely pa=
rallel.<br></div>=0A<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:'c=
omic sans ms', sans-serif;font-size:small;">It would=0Atake someone with=
 a lot of skill to shear the sides off=0Aindividually to achieve that de=
gree of accuracy on both washers and=0Areally ... would anyone go to tha=
t much effort?<br></div>=0A<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:'comic sans ms', sans-serif;font-size:small;"><br></div>=0A<div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:'comic sans ms', sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:small;"><br></div>=0A<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-=
family:'comic sans ms', sans-serif;font-size:small;"><img src=3D"/index.=
php/inbox/attachment/filenameOriginal/image.png/filenamefs/INBOX44176d2b=
5ca33bd970f64a6301fa75ae2eb22" alt=3D"image.png" width=3D"285" height=3D=
"559"></div>=0A<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:'comic=
 sans ms', sans-serif;font-size:small;">Additionally=0Athe washers have=
 been punched out, not ground or filed to size as=0Ais evident from the=
 shear marks on the sides.</div>=0A<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D=
"font-family:'comic sans ms', sans-serif;font-size:small;"><br></div>=0A=
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:'comic sans ms', sans-=
serif;font-size:small;">I realize=0Athat this is totally insignificant i=
n the scheme of things but=0Abeing a very poor sleeper I tend to stay aw=
ake at night and think=0Aabout these things. :-)</div>=0A<div class=3D"g=
mail_default" style=3D"font-family:'comic sans ms', sans-serif;font-size=
:small;"><br></div>=0A<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:=
'comic sans ms', sans-serif;font-size:small;">I have found=0Athat there=
 is usually a good explanation for these things but this=0Ahas me stumpe=
d.</div>=0A<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:'comic sans=
 ms', sans-serif;font-size:small;"><br></div>=0A<div class=3D"gmail_defa=
ult" style=3D"font-family:'comic sans ms', sans-serif;font-size:small;">=
Please ...=0Ahelp me get a good night's sleep.<br></div>=0A<div class=3D=
"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:'comic sans ms', sans-serif;font-si=
ze:small;"><br></div>=0A<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-famil=
y:'comic sans ms', sans-serif;font-size:small;">M<br></div>=0A<div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:'comic sans ms', sans-serif;font=
-size:small;"><br></div>=0A<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:'comic sans ms', sans-serif;font-size:small;"><br></div>=0A<div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:'comic sans ms', sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:small;"><br><br><br></div>=0A</div>=0A<br><div class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote">=0A<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 1:2=
8 PM=0ASkip Saunders &lt;<a>tfsbj7@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div>=0A=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px .8ex;borde=
r-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;">=0A<div dir=3D"ltr"=
>Judging by the curvature of the washers, the five=0Aappear to be of the=
 original manufactured type.&nbsp; The two=0Aappear to be regular washer=
s that have been ground down to fit in=0Athe narrow channel.&nbsp; Do yo=
u see the same disparity among=0Awashers in the oil pan (it too uses tho=
se types of narrow channel=0Acompatible washers I believe.)=0A<div>Thank=
s</div>=0A<div>-skip-</div>=0A</div>=0A<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
=0A<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 12:57 PM=
=0AMichael Salter &lt;<a>michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div=
>=0A<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px .8ex;b=
order-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;">=0A<div>I'm wor=
king on an early 3000 engine and have found=0Athese 2 different types of=
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