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Re: [Healeys] BN2 Caster Angle

To: Bluehealey <bluehealey@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN2 Caster Angle
From: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2021 10:34:52 -0500
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I installed a couple of sets of those many years ago. Unfortunately the
bearings were made from carbon steel not stainless and they rusted up after
about 1 year.
Hopefully the manufacturers now make them from stainless andor brass.

M

On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 9:49 AM Bluehealey <bluehealey@gmail.com> wrote:

> These are the ones.
>
> https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/suspension-front/top-=
trunnion-bearing-kit-pair.aspx
> Well worth doing.
> The other often overlooked source of heavy steering is the Steering Idler=
.
> It is rarely lubricated, has no real reservoir for oil, and a poor seal a=
t
> the bottom. I suggest releasing the ball joints that connect to the drop
> arm to check it for stiffness. Complete removal of the idler isn=E2=80=99=
t a
> difficult job and is the best way to clean and lubricate.
> The caster is pretty good on these cars (the initial design was good).
> Camber could go from positive to negative to be more compatible with radi=
al
> tyres. Also check and minimise toe-in. This has a radical impact on
> steering feel when wrong (in either direction).
> If after all that you still have problems, then go for the caster changes
> you have in mind and tell us about your findings. The Team may learn
> something.
> The only other aspect that seems to vary from car to car is bump steer.
> Some can be horrible on fast bumpies and others are on rails.  I=E2=80=99=
ve never
> seen a decent treatise on dealing with this on our Big Healeys.
> Have fun.
> Alan - from my iPad
>
> On 6 Jan 2021, at 13:35, Team.net <lawrence.swift@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BFWhen I rebuilt the front end on my BT7, I had the trust bearings=
 at the
> top of the kingpin replaced with bearings - made a huge difference in the
> ease of steering.
>
> On Jan 5, 2021, at 10:36 AM, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
> re: "The other two are factory fixed and too dangerous to play with or
> maintain...even if Kilmartin makes the parts"
>
>
> How so?
>
>
> On 1/4/2021 9:40 PM, gradea1@charter.net wrote:
>
> I'm with the philosophy "set the toe and let 'er blow" The 1/16-1/8"
> toe-in is most important for proper tire wear.  The other two are factory
> fixed and too dangerous to play with or maintain...even if Kilmartin make=
s
> the parts. Hank
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sa=
ns ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">I installed a couple of sets of those man=
y years ago. Unfortunately the bearings were made from carbon steel not sta=
inless and they rusted up after about 1 year. <br></div><div class=3D"gmail=
_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Ho=
pefully the manufacturers now make them from stainless andor brass.</div><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:=
comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">M<br></div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 =
at 9:49 AM Bluehealey &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bluehealey@gmail.com";>blueheale=
y@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">These are th=
e ones.<div><a href=3D"https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/=
suspension-front/top-trunnion-bearing-kit-pair.aspx" target=3D"_blank">http=
s://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/suspension-front/top-trunni=
on-bearing-kit-pair.aspx</a></div><div>Well worth doing.</div><div>The othe=
r often overlooked source of heavy steering is the Steering Idler. It is ra=
rely lubricated, has no real reservoir for oil, and a poor seal at the bott=
om. I suggest releasing the ball joints that connect to the drop arm to che=
ck it for stiffness. Complete removal of the idler isn=E2=80=99t a difficul=
t job and is the best way to clean and lubricate.</div><div>The caster is p=
retty good on these cars (the initial design was good). Camber could go fro=
m positive to negative to be more compatible with radial tyres. Also check =
and minimise toe-in. This has a radical impact on steering feel when wrong =
(in either direction).</div><div>If after all that you still have problems,=
 then go for the caster changes you have in mind and tell us about your fin=
dings. The Team may learn something.</div><div>The only other aspect that s=
eems to vary from car to car is bump steer. Some can be horrible on fast bu=
mpies and others are on rails.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99ve never seen a decent treat=
ise on dealing with this on our Big Healeys.<br>Have fun.<br><div dir=3D"lt=
r">Alan - from my iPad</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
On 6 Jan 2021, at 13:35, Team.net &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lawrence.swift@gmai=
l.com" target=3D"_blank">lawrence.swift@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></b=
lockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<span>W=
hen I rebuilt the front end on my BT7, I had the trust bearings at the top =
of the kingpin replaced with bearings - made a huge difference in the ease =
of steering.</span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>On =
Jan 5, 2021, at 10:36 AM, Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcas=
t.net" target=3D"_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:</span><br></bl=
ockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite"><span>re: &quot;The other two are factory fixed and too dan=
gerous to play with or maintain...even if Kilmartin makes the parts&quot;</=
span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquo=
te><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>How so?</span><br></blockquote><blockquo=
te type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><s=
pan>On 1/4/2021 9:40 PM, <a href=3D"mailto:gradea1@charter.net"; target=3D"_=
blank">gradea1@charter.net</a> wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>I&#39;m with the philosophy &qu=
ot;set the toe and let &#39;er blow&quot; The 1/16-1/8&quot; toe-in is most=
 important for proper tire wear.=C2=A0 The other two are factory fixed and =
too dangerous to play with or maintain...even if Kilmartin makes the parts.=
 Hank</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockq=
uote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=
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