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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Spark Plugs
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 08:00:26 -0800
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Not with Healey plugs but, as an aside, Ford had a massive problem a few 
years ago (I should say, some Ford owners, namely those with 4.6L 
'Modular' engines, had a problem). These are SOHC engines, and their 
plugs were very long and skinny, and buried deep in the heads. The gap 
between the chamber end of the plug and the head was very narrow, and 
prone to 'carboning-up;' the problem was the plugs were made in two 
pieces and, when someone tried to remove the plugs--usually at 100K 
miles or so--the plug would pull apart, leaving the bottom end stuck in 
the head (much fun ensued). Since I had a 4.6L in my '08 Mustang I went, 
almost in a panic, to check my car's plugs but, fortunately, it had a 
later version of the heads that didn't bury the plugs so bad, and used a 
stronger, one-piece plug. I changed the plugs at about 90K miles and it 
was a piece of cake.

On 1/27/2021 7:46 AM, Bob Spidell wrote:
> Nope.
>
> The Champion plug that seems to be the most commonly available 
> off-the-shelf is RN12YC (I may have jumbled the letters). This for a 
> BJ8; my BN2 uses a different one, but I don't recall offhand (N9?). 
> The 'R' is for resistor, which I believe is about 15KOhms, the 'C' is 
> for copper (none of that fancy iridium or platinum stuff for an old 
> Brit car).  I run them with 7mm stranded wire secondaries, with 
> resistor plug caps--again, about 15KOhms--and have never had an issue, 
> and I have a Pertronix points sets on both my Healeys. They're good, 
> with one re-gap, for over 25K miles but, usually, if I go to the 
> trouble to pull them I put new ones in. Years ago I bought a bunch on 
> sale for about $1/ea. at Pep Boys.
>
> I've mentioned before that Champion brand is the go-to in light 
> aircraft piston engines; they have standard and 'fine-wire' electrodes 
> for engines that are known for lead fouling.
>
> Bob
>
>
> On 1/27/2021 7:28 AM, warthodson--- via Healeys wrote:
>> I have never had a spark plug let me down. Has anyone on the list 
>> ever had an issue that could be attributed to a spark plug? Using the 
>> incorrect spark plug for the application does not count, nor does 
>> failing to change plugs when required. Both of those are attributed 
>> to the failure of the person responsible for maintenance.
>> Gary Hodson
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca
>> To: gradea1@charter.net; fsufan1952@yahoo.com
>> Cc: 'healey list' <healeys@autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Wed, Jan 27, 2021 6:48 am
>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Spark Plugs
>>
>> Iâ??m with Hank, Champions have never let me down.
>> Mirek
>> *From:*Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of 
>> *gradea1@charter.net
>> *Sent:* January 26, 2021 4:25 PM
>> *To:* 'fsufan1952@yahoo.com' <fsufan1952@yahoo.com>
>> *Cc:* 'healey list' <healeys@autox.team.net>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Spark Plugs
>> Seems like a sacrelige to use Japanese plugs in a British machine. 
>> Especially since the 240 Z buried the British sports car market in 
>> the '70s.
>> I have always used Champion UN12Y plugs as specified for the BJ8, and 
>> never had a problem even though Champion had some bad press about 
>> their manufacturing.  Of course I use regular points, so maybe there 
>> is not as much demand on my plugs. Hank
>> -----------------------------------------
>> From: "Don via Healeys"
>> To: "healey list"
>> Cc:
>> Sent: Tuesday January 26 2021 10:28:46AM
>> Subject: [Healeys] Spark Plugs
>>
>>
>> Good Afternoon All
>> Iâ??ve been using NGK spark plugs , BP6 ES. In my 67 BJ8 with 
>> electronic ignition. I just went to my local parts store and I was 
>> told they canâ??t get them anymore.
>> What else is everyone using with success?
>> Thank You , Don Day 67 BJ8


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    Not with Healey plugs but, as an aside, Ford had a massive problem a
    few years ago (I should say, some Ford owners, namely those with
    4.6L 'Modular' engines, had a problem). These are SOHC engines, and
    their plugs were very long and skinny, and buried deep in the heads.
    The gap between the chamber end of the plug and the head was very
    narrow, and prone to 'carboning-up;' the problem was the plugs were
    made in two pieces and, when someone tried to remove the
    plugs--usually at 100K miles or so--the plug would pull apart,
    leaving the bottom end stuck in the head (much fun ensued). Since I
    had a 4.6L in my '08 Mustang I went, almost in a panic, to check my
    car's plugs but, fortunately, it had a later version of the heads
    that didn't bury the plugs so bad, and used a stronger, one-piece
    plug. I changed the plugs at about 90K miles and it was a piece of
    cake.<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/27/2021 7:46 AM, Bob Spidell
      wrote:<br>
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      Nope.<br>
      <br>
      The Champion plug that seems to be the most commonly available
      off-the-shelf is RN12YC (I may have jumbled the letters). This for
      a BJ8; my BN2 uses a different one, but I don't recall offhand
      (N9?). The 'R' is for resistor, which I believe is about 15KOhms,
      the 'C' is for copper (none of that fancy iridium or platinum
      stuff for an old Brit car).  I run them with 7mm stranded wire
      secondaries, with resistor plug caps--again, about 15KOhms--and
      have never had an issue, and I have a Pertronix points sets on
      both my Healeys. They're good, with one re-gap, for over 25K miles
      but, usually, if I go to the trouble to pull them I put new ones
      in. Years ago I bought a bunch on sale for about $1/ea. at Pep
      Boys.<br>
      <br>
      I've mentioned before that Champion brand is the go-to in light
      aircraft piston engines; they have standard and 'fine-wire'
      electrodes for engines that are known for lead fouling.<br>
      <br>
      Bob<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/27/2021 7:28 AM, warthodson---
        via Healeys wrote:<br>
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        <div style="color:black;font: 12pt Comic Sans MS, sans-serif;">I
          have never had a spark plug let me down. Has anyone on the
          list ever had an issue that could be attributed to a spark
          plug? Using the incorrect spark plug for the application does
          not count, nor does failing to change plugs when required.
          Both of those are attributed to the failure of the person
          responsible for maintenance.   <br>
          Gary Hodson<br>
          <br>
          <div
            
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            Cc: 'healey list' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
              href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
              moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;</a><br>
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                  <div class="yiv9839230587MsoNormal"><span style="">Iâ??m
                      with Hank, Champions have never let me down.</span></div>
                  <div class="yiv9839230587MsoNormal"><span style=""> 
 </span></div>
                  <div class="yiv9839230587MsoNormal"><span 
style="">Mirek</span></div>
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                              href="mailto:gradea1@charter.net";
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                            <b>Sent:</b> January 26, 2021 4:25 PM<br
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                            <b>To:</b> '<a
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                              href="mailto:fsufan1952@yahoo.com";
                              moz-do-not-send="true">fsufan1952@yahoo.com</a>'
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                    <div class="yiv9839230587MsoNormal">Seems like a
                      sacrelige to use Japanese plugs in a British
                      machine. Especially since the 240 Z buried the
                      British sports car market in the '70s.</div>
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                        style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;">I have always used
                        Champion UN12Y plugs as specified for the BJ8,
                        and never had a problem even though Champion had
                        some bad press about their manufacturing.  Of
                        course I use regular points, so maybe there is
                        not as much demand on my plugs. Hank</div>
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                      <div class="yiv9839230587MsoNormal">From: "Don via
                        Healeys" <br clear="none">
                        To: "healey list"<br clear="none">
                        Cc: <br clear="none">
                        Sent: Tuesday January 26 2021 10:28:46AM<br
                          clear="none">
                        Subject: [Healeys] Spark Plugs<br clear="none">
                        <br clear="none">
                        <br clear="none">
                        Good Afternoon All<br clear="none">
                        Iâ??ve been using NGK spark plugs , BP6 ES. In my
                        67 BJ8 with electronic ignition. I just went to
                        my local parts store and I was told they canâ??t
                        get them anymore.<br clear="none">
                        What else is everyone using with success?<br
                          clear="none">
                        Thank You , Don Day 67 BJ8</div>
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