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Re: [Healeys] Spark Plugs

To: Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Spark Plugs
From: Don via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 18:29:41 -0500
Cc: Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
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So to push this to the next level . With a 67 BJ8 with electronic ignition, i=
n the Florida heat , is 32 gap or 30 ? And how much advance ?  With DW heade=
rs  , ceramic coated , and his 2 inch exhaust system and AHSPARES tubular in=
take manifold, which I had ceramic coated  =F0=9F=98=8A  I=E2=80=99m still g=
etting a lot of heat vapor lock . I=E2=80=99ve wrapped the headers , wrapped=
 the fuel lines , and installed Joe Couture SU float bowl insulation wraps .=
 Along with a new AHSPARES radiator and an electric fan , pusher in front of=
 the radiator. And in minimal traffic, I still have to deal with vapor lock .=
 When I did the frame off restoration 10 years ago , I used a AHSPARES elect=
ronic fuel pump . Any thoughts or comments?=20
      Thanks , Don=20

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 27, 2021, at 4:17 PM, Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net> wro=
te:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> Not to get too far off the subject about Healeys, but my Harley Davidson (=
30s technology like our cars) runs the best on the cheapest Ford Autolite 41=
64 copper plugs.  I tried "high performance" plugs from Harley Davidson and s=
aw no difference.  Best of all they are only 89 cents a piece when on sale a=
nd I only need two at a time.  Does anyone know for sure which Champion plug=
 works for the BN2?
> Mike MacLean
>=20
> On Wednesday, January 27, 2021, 10:18:57 AM PST, Kees Oudesluijs <coudeslu=
ijs@chello.nl> wrote:
>=20
>=20
> Never had much problems with trouble because of plugs on any of my vehicle=
s in the past 55 years. The only thing that is more or less important is to g=
ap them, clean them once in a while and replace when they are to far gone. I=
 do not think I even did that in the last ten years or so. I have nearly alw=
ays used Champion plugs as they are very cheap: between =E2=82=AC8 and =E2=82=
=AC15 for four.
>=20
> I presume that electronic ignition (Pertronix in my case) may also help.
>=20
> Kees Oudesluijs
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Op 27-1-2021 om 18:27 schreef Laurie Wilford:
>=20
> I continue to use only Champion plugs in my Healeys but have experienced a=
t least two episodes of plug problems over the years. Based on the number of=
 miles covered that is probably not too bad, but the second time was with a n=
ewly installed set of plugs. One was defective.=20
> Both times the symptoms were intermittent missing both at idle and on the h=
ighway.  Finally changing plugs was of course one of the last things I did.
>=20
> Laurie Wilford=20
>=20
> Sent from my Galaxy
>=20
>=20
>=20
> -------- Original message --------
> From: warthodson--- via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Date: 2021-01-27 10:33 a.m. (GMT-05:00)
> To: m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca, gradea1@charter.net, fsufan1952@yahoo.com
> Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Spark Plugs
>=20
> I have never had a spark plug let me down. Has anyone on the list ever had=
 an issue that could be attributed to a spark plug? Using the incorrect spar=
k plug for the application does not count, nor does failing to change plugs w=
hen required. Both of those are attributed to the failure of the person resp=
onsible for maintenance.  =20
> Gary Hodson
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca
> To: gradea1@charter.net; fsufan1952@yahoo.com
> Cc: 'healey list' <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wed, Jan 27, 2021 6:48 am
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Spark Plugs
>=20
> I=E2=80=99m with Hank, Champions have never let me down.
> =20
> Mirek
> =20
> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of gradea1@charte=
r.net
> Sent: January 26, 2021 4:25 PM
> To: 'fsufan1952@yahoo.com' <fsufan1952@yahoo.com>
> Cc: 'healey list' <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Spark Plugs
> =20
> Seems like a sacrelige to use Japanese plugs in a British machine. Especia=
lly since the 240 Z buried the British sports car market in the '70s.
> =20
> I have always used Champion UN12Y plugs as specified for the BJ8, and neve=
r had a problem even though Champion had some bad press about their manufact=
uring.  Of course I use regular points, so maybe there is not as much demand=
 on my plugs. Hank
> -----------------------------------------
> From: "Don via Healeys"=20
> To: "healey list"
> Cc:=20
> Sent: Tuesday January 26 2021 10:28:46AM
> Subject: [Healeys] Spark Plugs
>=20
>=20
> Good Afternoon All
> I=E2=80=99ve been using NGK spark plugs , BP6 ES. In my 67 BJ8 with electr=
onic ignition. I just went to my local parts store and I was told they can=E2=
=80=99t get them anymore.
> What else is everyone using with success?
> Thank You , Don Day 67 BJ8
> Sent from my iPhone
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">So to push this to the next level . With a 6=
7 BJ8 with electronic ignition, in the Florida heat , is 32 gap or 30 ? And h=
ow much advance ? &nbsp;With DW headers &nbsp;, ceramic coated , and his 2 i=
nch exhaust system and AHSPARES tubular intake manifold, which I had ceramic=
 coated &nbsp;=F0=9F=98=8A &nbsp;I=E2=80=99m still getting a lot of heat vap=
or lock . I=E2=80=99ve wrapped the headers , wrapped the fuel lines , and in=
stalled Joe Couture SU float bowl insulation wraps . Along with a new AHSPAR=
ES radiator and an electric fan , pusher in front of the radiator. And in mi=
nimal traffic, I still have to deal with vapor lock . When I did the frame o=
ff restoration 10 years ago , I used a AHSPARES electronic fuel pump . Any t=
houghts or comments?&nbsp;<div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Thanks , Don&nbsp;<br><b=
r><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite">On Jan 27, 2021, at 4:17 PM, Michael MacLean &lt;rrengineer.m=
ike@att.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div class=3D"ydp87269b0yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"=
font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px;"><div></=
div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Not to get too far off the su=
bject about Healeys, but my Harley Davidson (30s technology like our cars) r=
uns the best on the cheapest Ford Autolite 4164 copper plugs.&nbsp; I tried "=
high performance" plugs from Harley Davidson and saw no difference.&nbsp; Be=
st of all they are only 89 cents a piece when on sale and I only need two at=
 a time.&nbsp; Does anyone know for sure which Champion plug works for the B=
N2?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Mike MacLean<br></div><d=
iv><br></div>
       =20
        </div><div id=3D"yahoo_quoted_2574944467" class=3D"yahoo_quoted">
            <div style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sa=
ns-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
               =20
                <div>
                    On Wednesday, January 27, 2021, 10:18:57 AM PST, Kees Ou=
desluijs &lt;coudesluijs@chello.nl&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"yiv9461297388"><div>
    <p>Never had much problems with trouble because of plugs on any of
      my vehicles in the past 55 years. The only thing that is more or
      less important is to gap them, clean them once in a while and
      replace when they are to far gone. I do not think I even did that
      in the last ten years or so. I have nearly always used Champion
      plugs as they are very cheap: between =E2=82=AC8 and =E2=82=AC15 for f=
our.</p>
    <p>I presume that electronic ignition (Pertronix in my case) may
      also help.</p>
    <p>Kees Oudesluijs</p>
    <p><br clear=3D"none">
    </p>
    <div class=3D"yiv9461297388yqt6405943179" id=3D"yiv9461297388yqtfd88475"=
><div class=3D"yiv9461297388moz-cite-prefix">Op 27-1-2021 om 18:27 schreef L=
aurie
      Wilford:<br clear=3D"none">
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
      </blockquote></div></div><div class=3D"yiv9461297388yqt6405943179" id=3D=
"yiv9461297388yqtfd36466"></div><div><div class=3D"yiv9461297388yqt640594317=
9" id=3D"yiv9461297388yqtfd38471"><div>I continue to use only Champion plugs=
 in my
        Healeys but have experienced at least two episodes of plug
        problems over the years. Based on the number of miles covered
        that is probably not too bad, but the second time was with a
        newly installed set of plugs. One was defective.&nbsp;</div>
      <div>Both times the symptoms were intermittent missing
        both at idle and on the highway.&nbsp; Finally changing plugs was of=

        course one of the last things I did.</div>
      <div><br clear=3D"none">
      </div>
      <div>Laurie Wilford&nbsp;</div>
      <div><br clear=3D"none">
      </div>
      <div id=3D"yiv9461297388composer_signature">
        <div style=3D"font-size:85%;color:#575757;">Sent from
          my Galaxy</div>
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      </div>
      <div><br clear=3D"none">
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      </div>
      <div>-------- Original message --------</div>
      <div>From: warthodson--- via Healeys
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      <div>Date: 2021-01-27 10:33 a.m. (GMT-05:00) </div>
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.team.net</a> </div>
      <div>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Spark Plugs </div>
      <div><br clear=3D"none">
      </div>
      <div>
        <div style=3D"color:black;font:12pt Comic Sans MS, sans-serif;">I
          have never had a spark plug let me down. Has anyone on the
          list ever had an issue that could be attributed to a spark
          plug? Using the incorrect spark plug for the application does
          not count, nor does failing to change plugs when required.
          Both of those are attributed to the failure of the person
          responsible for maintenance.&nbsp; &nbsp;<br clear=3D"none">
          Gary Hodson<br clear=3D"none">
          <br clear=3D"none">
          <div style=3D"font-family:arial, helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:bl=
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            Sent: Wed, Jan 27, 2021 6:48 am<br clear=3D"none">
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                  <div class=3D"yiv9461297388MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">I=E2=
=80=99m
                      with Hank, Champions have never let me down.</span></d=
iv>
                  <div class=3D"yiv9461297388MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">&nb=
sp;</span></div>
                  <div class=3D"yiv9461297388MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">Mir=
ek</span></div>
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                    <div class=3D"yiv9461297388MsoNormal">Seems like a
                      sacrelige to use Japanese plugs in a British
                      machine. Especially since the 240 Z buried the
                      British sports car market in the '70s.</div>
                    <div>
                      <div class=3D"yiv9461297388MsoNormal">&nbsp;</div>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <div class=3D"yiv9461297388MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-=
bottom:12.0pt;">I have always used
                        Champion UN12Y plugs as specified for the BJ8,
                        and never had a problem even though Champion had
                        some bad press about their manufacturing.&nbsp; Of
                        course I use regular points, so maybe there is
                        not as much demand on my plugs. Hank</div>
                      <div>-----------------------------------------</div>
                      <div class=3D"yiv9461297388MsoNormal">From: "Don via
                        Healeys" <br clear=3D"none">
                        To: "healey list"<br clear=3D"none">
                        Cc: <br clear=3D"none">
                        Sent: Tuesday January 26 2021 10:28:46AM<br clear=3D=
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                        Subject: [Healeys] Spark Plugs<br clear=3D"none">
                        <br clear=3D"none">
                        <br clear=3D"none">
                        Good Afternoon All<br clear=3D"none">
                        I=E2=80=99ve been using NGK spark plugs , BP6 ES. In=
 my
                        67 BJ8 with electronic ignition. I just went to
                        my local parts store and I was told they can=E2=80=99=
t
                        get them anymore.<br clear=3D"none">
                        What else is everyone using with success?<br clear=3D=
"none">
                        Thank You , Don Day 67 BJ8<br clear=3D"none">
                        Sent from my iPhone<br clear=3D"none">
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