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probably that pesky Delco module..

On 7/6/2021 12:57 PM, Michael Salter wrote:
> I had a 1974 Jaguar XJ6 with Lucas Opus ignition. It failed within the 
> first 100 miles and gave constant trouble with numerous flatbed rides 
> to the dealer until I traded it in 1975 with less than 5000 miles on it.
>
> M
>
> On Tue., Jul. 6, 2021, 1:04 p.m. Bob Spidell, <bspidell@comcast.net 
>
>     True dat. Electronic ignitions were still new age at that time; I
>     had a
>     '79 Subaru that had electronic points, which looked like a Pertronix
>     module, and it went 175K miles with no ignition issues.
>
>     On 7/6/2021 8:35 AM, Bob Haskell wrote:
>     > Bob,
>     >
>     > Probably not too old school when the book was published in 1975.
>     >
>     > Cheers,
>     >
>     > Bob Haskell
>     > Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar
>     >
>     > On 7/6/21 10:47 AM, Bob Spidell wrote:
>     >> Interesting that he doesn't believe in using fuses. Or electronic
>     >> ignitions, which are in pretty much every car built today. Modern
>     >> ECU/COP systems--with no moving parts--are vastly superior to
>     points
>     >> and distributors, but less fixable to us shadetree mechanics.
>     >>
>     >> To say he's 'Old School' would be an understatement.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> On 7/6/2021 6:40 AM, Bob Haskell wrote:
>     >>> Prepare to Win, page 152 attached.  Part of the chapter on
>     >>> Electrics, Instruments, Fuel Cells.  Doesn't like Lucas in
>     general
>     >>> and the master cutoff switches and distributors in particular.
>     >>>
>     >>> Cheers,
>     >>>
>     >>> Bob Haskell
>     >>> Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar
>     >>>
>     >>> On 7/1/21 5:54 PM, Mark Donaldson wrote:
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Hello, Sarah,
>     >>>>
>     >>>> I will try to find the page over the weekend.
>     >>>>
>     >>>> But Carroll said basically something like this: * â??Lucas
>     electrics
>     >>>> are NFG and I do not intended to discuss them any furtherâ??.*
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Iâ??ve had a quick look this morning but cannot find it.  Iâ??ll
>     have a
>     >>>> better look over the weekend.  If I find it Iâ??ll scan the
>     page and
>     >>>> post it.
>     >>>>
>     >>>> To be honest, Iâ??ve been using Lucas electrics for 50 years
>     and Iâ??ve
>     >>>> had no problems that werenâ??t created by *ME*, taking them for
>     >>>> granted.  And even then, they were minor.
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Best
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Mark
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Ardmore, NZ
>     >>>>
>     >>>> *Sent:* Friday, 2 July 2021 2:29 a.m.
>     >>>> *To:* David Lodge <emmgeeteesee@gmail.com
>     >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Book
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Mark â?? Please tell us what the sentence said!!
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Sarah Carr
>     >>>>
>     >>>> BN1 in PA
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Sent from Mail
>     <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986
>     <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>> for
>     >>>> Windows 10
>     >>>>
>     >>>> *From: *David Lodge via Healeys
>     >>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, June 30, 2021 8:08 PM
>     >>>> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Book
>     >>>>
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Smokey Yunick's book is pretty good, too (mostly for V8s, but
>     >>>> plenty of good tips):
>     >>>>
>     >>>> https://hotrodenginetech.com/smokey-yunicks-power-secrets/
>     <https://hotrodenginetech.com/smokey-yunicks-power-secrets/>
>     >>>> <https://hotrodenginetech.com/smokey-yunicks-power-secrets/
>     <https://hotrodenginetech.com/smokey-yunicks-power-secrets/>>
>     >>>>
>     >>>> On 1/12/2021 8:11 PM, Mark Donaldson wrote:
>     >>>>
>     >>>> A man after my own heart, Chris. ð???
>     >>>>
>     >>>>  And there are also the three wonderful books by the late,
>     great,
>     >>>> *Carroll Smith*  . . .  Prepare to Win, Tune to Win, and
>     Engineer
>     >>>> to Win.
>     >>>>
>     >>>> *There is a whole chapter on Lucas electrics in one other
>     them.  It
>     >>>> comprises just one sentence**.*ð???
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Mark
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Ardmore, NZ
>     >>>>
>     >>>> *From:*Chris Dimmock <austin.healey@gmail.com
>     >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 13 January 2021 1:27 a.m.
>     >>>> *To:* simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
>     >>>> *Cc:* Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net
>     >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Book
>     >>>>
>     >>>> In the World of A Series engines, the â??Bibleâ?? is Vizards book.
>     >>>>
>     >>>> â??Tuning the A Series Engineâ??
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Iâ??d recommend it wholeheartedly because most of the principles
>     >>>> apply to B series and C Series BMC engines.
>     >>>>
>     >>>> I keep a copy beside my bed.
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Mostly because Iâ??m an insomniac.
>     >>>>
>     >>>> ð???
>     >>>>
>     >>>> But also because when I have those things racing around in my
>     mind
>     >>>> at 3.00am, I can check the book....
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Chris
>     >>>>
>     >>>>     On 11 Jan 2021, at 11:13 pm,
>     simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
>     >>>>
>     >>>>     
>     >>>>
>     >>>>     Hi,
>     >>>>
>     >>>>     Is there a book out there on rebuilding BMC C-Series engines?
>     >>>>     Preferably, AH 3000 engines!
>     >>>>
>     >>>>     The book would hopefully show one what to look for, options
>     >>>>     regarding performance parts and modifications that needed
>     to be
>     >>>>     done by specialists. ie, I donâ??t want to get near the end
>     of some
>     >>>>     rebuild process and then be told that part number xyz
>     needs to go
>     >>>>     off to the lab to be machined to the nearest nanowotsit
>     and have
>     >>>>     platinum inserts installed. If you see what I mean!
>     >>>>
>     >>>>     Maybe something one stage up from â??Engines for 
> Dummiesâ??â?¦â?¦..
>     >>>>
>     >>>>     I have looked on Google and, so far, failed.
>     >>>>
>     >>>>     Yes, Iâ??ve got the manuals.
>     >>>>
>     >>>>     Thanks,
>     >>>>
>     >>>>     Simon
>     >>>>
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    <p>probably that pesky Delco module..<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/6/2021 12:57 PM, Michael Salter
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CAB3i7LLbQp5U=8qBzQyP+7fWTi3diuy4W5x9cJ4LyFoiYUCoZg@mail.gmail.com">
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      <div dir="auto">I had a 1974 Jaguar XJ6 with Lucas Opus ignition. 
        It failed within the first 100 miles and gave constant trouble
        with numerous flatbed rides to the dealer until I traded it in
        1975 with less than 5000 miles on it.
        <div dir="auto"><br>
        </div>
        <div dir="auto">M</div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">
        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue., Jul. 6, 2021, 1:04
          p.m. Bob Spidell, &lt;<a href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";
            moz-do-not-send="true">bspidell@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
          .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">True dat.
          Electronic ignitions were still new age at that time; I had a
          <br>
          '79 Subaru that had electronic points, which looked like a
          Pertronix <br>
          module, and it went 175K miles with no ignition issues.<br>
          <br>
          On 7/6/2021 8:35 AM, Bob Haskell wrote:<br>
          &gt; Bob,<br>
          &gt;<br>
          &gt; Probably not too old school when the book was published
          in 1975.<br>
          &gt;<br>
          &gt; Cheers,<br>
          &gt;<br>
          &gt; Bob Haskell<br>
          &gt; Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar<br>
          &gt;<br>
          &gt; On 7/6/21 10:47 AM, Bob Spidell wrote:<br>
          &gt;&gt; Interesting that he doesn't believe in using fuses.
          Or electronic <br>
          &gt;&gt; ignitions, which are in pretty much every car built
          today. Modern <br>
          &gt;&gt; ECU/COP systems--with no moving parts--are vastly
          superior to points <br>
          &gt;&gt; and distributors, but less fixable to us shadetree
          mechanics.<br>
          &gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt; To say he's 'Old School' would be an understatement.<br>
          &gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt; On 7/6/2021 6:40 AM, Bob Haskell wrote:<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt; Prepare to Win, page 152 attached.  Part of the
          chapter on <br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt; Electrics, Instruments, Fuel Cells.  Doesn't like
          Lucas in general <br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt; and the master cutoff switches and distributors
          in particular.<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt; Cheers,<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt; Bob Haskell<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt; Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt; On 7/1/21 5:54 PM, Mark Donaldson wrote:<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Hello, Sarah,<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I will try to find the page over the weekend.<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; But Carroll said basically something like
          this: * â??Lucas electrics <br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; are NFG and I do not intended to discuss them
          any furtherâ??.*<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Iâ??ve had a quick look this morning but cannot
          find it.  Iâ??ll have a <br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; better look over the weekend.  If I find it
          Iâ??ll scan the page and <br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; post it.<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; To be honest, Iâ??ve been using Lucas electrics
          for 50 years and Iâ??ve <br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; had no problems that werenâ??t created by *ME*,
          taking them for <br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; granted.  And even then, they were minor.<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Best<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Mark<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Ardmore, NZ<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; *From:*S.Carr &lt;<a
            href="mailto:britfan1@epix.net"; target="_blank"
            rel="noreferrer" 
moz-do-not-send="true">britfan1@epix.net</a>&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; *Sent:* Friday, 2 July 2021 2:29 a.m.<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; *To:* David Lodge &lt;<a
            href="mailto:emmgeeteesee@gmail.com"; target="_blank"
            rel="noreferrer" 
moz-do-not-send="true">emmgeeteesee@gmail.com</a>&gt;;
          healeys <br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
            target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" 
moz-do-not-send="true">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Book<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Mark â?? Please tell us what the sentence
          said!!<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Sarah Carr<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; BN1 in PA<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Sent from Mail &lt;<a
            href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986";
            rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
            
moz-do-not-send="true">https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986</a>&gt;
          for <br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Windows 10<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; *From: *David Lodge via Healeys &lt;mailto:<a
            href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target="_blank"
            rel="noreferrer" 
moz-do-not-send="true">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; *Sent: *Wednesday, June 30, 2021 8:08 PM<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; *To: *<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
            target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" 
moz-do-not-send="true">healeys@autox.team.net</a>
          &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
            target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" 
moz-do-not-send="true">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;;
          Bob <br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Spidell &lt;mailto:<a
            href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; target="_blank"
            rel="noreferrer" 
moz-do-not-send="true">bspidell@comcast.net</a>&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; *Cc: *David Lodge &lt;mailto:<a
            href="mailto:emmgeeteecee@yahoo.co.uk"; target="_blank"
            rel="noreferrer" 
moz-do-not-send="true">emmgeeteecee@yahoo.co.uk</a>&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Book<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Smokey Yunick's book is pretty good, too
          (mostly for V8s, but <br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; plenty of good tips):<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <a
            href="https://hotrodenginetech.com/smokey-yunicks-power-secrets/";
            rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
            
moz-do-not-send="true">https://hotrodenginetech.com/smokey-yunicks-power-secrets/</a>
          <br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &lt;<a
            href="https://hotrodenginetech.com/smokey-yunicks-power-secrets/";
            rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
            
moz-do-not-send="true">https://hotrodenginetech.com/smokey-yunicks-power-secrets/</a>&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On 1/12/2021 8:11 PM, Mark Donaldson wrote:<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; A man after my own heart, Chris. ð???<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  And there are also the three wonderful books
          by the late, great, <br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; *Carroll Smith*  . . .  Prepare to Win, Tune
          to Win, and Engineer <br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; to Win.<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; *There is a whole chapter on Lucas electrics
          in one other them.  It <br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; comprises just one sentence**.*ð???<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Mark<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Ardmore, NZ<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; *From:*Chris Dimmock &lt;<a
            href="mailto:austin.healey@gmail.com"; target="_blank"
            rel="noreferrer" 
moz-do-not-send="true">austin.healey@gmail.com</a>&gt;
          <br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &lt;mailto:<a
            href="mailto:austin.healey@gmail.com"; target="_blank"
            rel="noreferrer" 
moz-do-not-send="true">austin.healey@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; *Sent:* Wednesday, 13 January 2021 1:27 a.m.<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; *To:* <a
            href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com";
            target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" 
moz-do-not-send="true">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>
          <br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &lt;mailto:<a
            href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com";
            target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" 
moz-do-not-send="true">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; *Cc:* Healeys &lt;<a
            href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target="_blank"
            rel="noreferrer" 
moz-do-not-send="true">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
          &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
            target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" 
moz-do-not-send="true">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Book<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; In the World of A Series engines, the â??Bibleâ??
          is Vizards book.<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; â??Tuning the A Series Engineâ??<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Iâ??d recommend it wholeheartedly because most
          of the principles <br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; apply to B series and C Series BMC engines.<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I keep a copy beside my bed.<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Mostly because Iâ??m an insomniac.<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ð???<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; But also because when I have those things
          racing around in my mind <br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; at 3.00am, I can check the book....<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Chris<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;     On 11 Jan 2021, at 11:13 pm, <a
            href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com";
            target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" 
moz-do-not-send="true">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a><br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;     &lt;mailto:<a
            href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com";
            target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" 
moz-do-not-send="true">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;     <br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;     Hi,<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;     Is there a book out there on rebuilding
          BMC C-Series engines?<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;     Preferably, AH 3000 engines!<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;     The book would hopefully show one what to
          look for, options<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;     regarding performance parts and
          modifications that needed to be<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;     done by specialists. ie, I donâ??t want to
          get near the end of some<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;     rebuild process and then be told that
          part number xyz needs to go<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;     off to the lab to be machined to the
          nearest nanowotsit and have<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;     platinum inserts installed. If you see
          what I mean!<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;     Maybe something one stage up from
          â??Engines for Dummiesâ??â?¦â?¦..<br>
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          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;     I have looked on Google and, so far,
          failed.<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;     Yes, Iâ??ve got the manuals.<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
          &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;     Thanks,<br>
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